Cardinal Koch: "Israel Remains the Chosen People"

[Victor]

by Marcus » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:26 pm

I am deeply saddened by people like "oao."
Bingo! That said, there are lots of folks out there without any common sense.

As for oao, thought about sending him some bandages . . . . . he's gotta be licking his wounds.

My friend Marcus,

I certainly don't want to sound like a goody two shoes and after having read all of this post and with a little empathy, I would probably have been a LOT harder on oao who ever he or she might be but we must never forget that we are Christians first and/or we try to be.

As for oao, only God can safely look into his or her heart and I personally would ask him or her to forgive me cause some of my dead cells have poked a little fun at oao and other deadly body cells might even copy sinners behavior and again I ask oao him or/her to forgive me even if sinner vic continues to do the same for God only knows what "The Sweet Life" really is.

I'll close by saying, when dead cells play in reality too long with angels, some of the angels which we could attract might think that we want to play tag with them for real and when they do tag U>S, our reality human body brain cells who circle our kingdom can never tag them back unless they chose to be "IT" and I don't think that too many or any of "The Evil Trinity" angels would dare make that sacrifice but then sinner vic has been wrong before or did one of God's Angels of Truth really silently talk to him cause he just reminded me that only God knows for sure what real silence truly means. Go Figure.

Merry Christmas,

God Bless Peace

[Marcus]

. . I personally would ask him or her to forgive me cause some of my dead cells have poked a little fun at oao and other deadly body cells might even copy sinners behavior and again I ask oao him or/her to forgive me even if sinner vic continues to do the same for God only knows what "The Sweet Life" really is.

I'll close by saying, when dead cells play in reality too long with angels, some of the angels which we could attract might think that we want to play tag with them for real and when they do tag U>S, our reality human body brain cells who circle our kingdom can never tag them back unless they chose to be "IT" and I don't think that too many or any of "The Evil Trinity" angels would dare make that sacrifice but then sinner vic has been wrong before or did one of God's Angels of Truth really silently talk to him cause he just reminded me that only God knows for sure what real silence truly means. Go Figure. . .

Sounds like hooky-dooky nonsense to me . . .

[rhapsody]

Spengler once explained why he wants to be friends with Catholics: because there are very many of them.

Background: Jews are never safe in this world, so to have a billion Catholic friends seems indeed a good insurance policy. But it must be reciprocal, and to divert from this dependency on Christian friends he made sure to explain that Christians do actually depend on this handful of Jews and that Israel is also indispensable part of the equation. This is no less than a marriage proposal, a new Judeo-Christian covenant to face and fence off the scorched earth left behind by the fires of atheism and the rise of Islam taking over vacant territory.

For this marriage to work, in case so desired, it seems to me that Jews and Christians should just go out for dinner more often. Go and see a movie. Visit each others families. Out of courtesy maybe join a church and synagogue service. The least they can do is what every tourist is able to do. No need whatsoever to agree on everything.

If young couples that want to marry start with writing down their private belief systems, then compare them and argue over the differences and what they mean... what kind of a start of a relationship is that? Even if they come to terms with their differences, where some may even lose sharp edges and end up in the attick to be forgotten... that does not mean they become long term partners in a marriage, or fight as bold warriors side by side the evil forces of atheism and Islam.

True bonding does not occur via the frontal or temporal lobes where conceptual thought and religious experience reside. No cardinal, no theological exegesis will bring Jews and Christians into the same bed. They just have to start dating. Literally, physically. Share lives in practice. This academic hunting for the real Jesus or Christ is just so meaningless. For young couples at least. When everybody is old and retired, hard to answer questions will come back with a vengeance anyways; no need speed up the aging process.

[Simple Minded]

. . Materialistic scientism simply assumes there is no reality outside the concrete evidence of taste, touch, sight, hearing, and smell. This assumption is purely arbitrary, though, as anyone with sense must acknowledge. No one could possibly prove such a postulate, and to claim that those who have evidence to the contrary must submit that proof in the form of sight, smell, taste, touch and hearing defies logic. Proof of extra-dimensionality, by definition, cannot be confined to this dimension of reality. To contend otherwise might be compared to having a five year old child demand of an adult proof that sexual reproduction exists, stated in terms strictly confined to his own personal physical experience. Absurd. . .

I am deeply saddened by people like "oao."

Bingo! That said, there are lots of folks out there without any common sense.

As for oao, thought about sending him some bandages . . . . . he's gotta be licking his wounds.

Marcus,

I would have to disagree that oao (dyslexia kicked in and I had to re-type that) is licking his wounds, since best I can tell, it was an honest discussion or debate (as Patrick Murphy said). It was not a beating, at least not the parts I read.

As a casual reader, I thought it was and still is an interesting discussion. I find many opinions here that are different from my own, and most are well reasoned and/or well presented. Good material for reflection.

I did not detect any meaness, just people passionately presenting views they hold sacred.

Seems to me, for better or worse, one's passion for religion/spirituality/God/Jesus/Allah/call it what you wish, is a powerful tool for subduing one's baser passions. Which on the whole seems a very good thing the vast majority of the time.

c'mon back oao, "Where all think alike, none think very much!"

That being said, in regards to my personal experience, I have found that sometimes one is only single dope slap or single mistake away from gaining common sense. Where would we be without the painful lessons we harvest from our own mistakes and bad judgement?

[Marcus]

Whatever winds your clock, SM . .

. . Jews and Christians should just go out for dinner more often. Go and see a movie. Visit each others families. Out of courtesy maybe join a church and synagogue service. The least they can do is what every tourist is able to do. No need whatsoever to agree on everything. . .

Rhap, you're getting smarter in your old age . . one of the most sensible things I've ever heard you say . .

[rhapsody]

Whatever winds your clock, SM . .

. . Jews and Christians should just go out for dinner more often. Go and see a movie. Visit each others families. Out of courtesy maybe join a church and synagogue service. The least they can do is what every tourist is able to do. No need whatsoever to agree on everything. . .

Rhap, you're getting smarter in your old age . . one of the most sensible things I've ever heard you say . .

Your To each his own mantra ad nauseum, actually kept me sane and on track. Thank you for that.

[Marcus]

Your To each his own mantra ad nauseum, actually kept me sane and on track. Thank you for that.

Wish I could take credit, Rhap, but actually I think the credit goes to Cicero.

If I were rich, I'd invite you, Chiquita, and ALI for dinner . . without, of course, telling any of you who the other two were.

What a hoot . . .

[charleston]

ALI??

[Marcus]

ALI??

AzariLoveIran, Chiquita . . 'course I'd keep his identity to myself . .

[rhapsody]

ALI??

AzariLoveIran, Chiquita . . 'course I'd keep his identity to myself . .

I have a bit evil and playful sister called Beth who loves to role play. She impersonates CleaningLady, Waxwing, Vic "IT", Spengler, GeoTima, in fact anyone on these boards, without much effort. It's scary. "Marcus" and "Azari" are her two favorites.

[charleston]

ALI??

AzariLoveIran, Chiquita . . 'course I'd keep his identity to myself . .

you would probably be at the meeting all by yourself

lol

[Marcus]

I have a bit evil and playful sister called Beth who loves to role play. She impersonates CleaningLady, Waxwing, Vic "IT", Spengler, GeoTima, in fact anyone on these boards, without much effort. It's scary. "Marcus" and "Azari" are her two favorites.

I knew there was a 'possum in the woodpile . . .

[Victor]

by Marcus » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:15 pm

Victor wrote:
. . I personally would ask him or her to forgive me cause some of my dead cells have poked a little fun at oao and other deadly body cells might even copy sinners behavior and again I ask oao him or/her to forgive me even if sinner vic continues to do the same for God only knows what "The Sweet Life" really is.

I'll close by saying, when dead cells play in reality too long with angels, some of the angels which we could attract might think that we want to play tag with them for real and when they do tag U>S, our reality human body brain cells who circle our kingdom can never tag them back unless they chose to be "IT" and I don't think that too many or any of "The Evil Trinity" angels would dare make that sacrifice but then sinner vic has been wrong before or did one of God's Angels of Truth really silently talk to him cause he just reminded me that only God knows for sure what real silence truly means. Go Figure. . .

Marcus replied:
Sounds like hooky-dooky nonsense to me . . .

Did you mean to write Oky Doky Marcus?... I sometimes have problems with my spelling also. Go Figure!

What do you mean, quick while you've still got a chance sinner vic

God Bless Peace

[Denver Bob]

I really must ask why should we care? What difference does it make to anyone?

My opinion makes no difference really, but I would say look to the 'Silent Holocaust' of intermarriage and repudiation. How can anyone make a claim of special status for Israel and Judaism when the people closest to it are leaving the faith and not going to another?

As to the State of Israel, I believe that the country has only about a generation if that of survival about same level as the defunct Soviet Union. Not because it will be crushed by outsiders, though their politics (hard left) make it more likely, but rather the citizens, who are really making sure their dual citizenship papers are in order, will leave, realizing the the government prefers its ideology (Social Democrat and harder left) and moralistic posturing to the welfare of its people.

In the US, most Jews I know, except for the truly committed in Chabad and the like, are just Jews when it suits them, with no commitment at all to that faith or any other.

With available personal examples, how can Jews make any claim to election when they see bad manners as the key to ethnic survival, per Spengler's pal ellens.

[Victor]

Hey sinner vic why did you bring me hear anyway cause Spengler's not hear and neither is David!

Now listen hear Victor, I never told you that King David was going to be hear and as far as Spengler's is concerned one of your dead cells told me that he was out to lunch.

Now guys don't try to get me in trouble cause I like David and remember that Spengler has always been fair with U>S but tell me sinner vic, why did you invite those those two dead cells that I see over there?

You can see them Victor?

Not really but a gut feeling tells me they are there?

Tell me which one Victor and "IT" won't talk to you again and besides, just like me, they are just a figment of your imagination and I brought them here so they could meet that sexy cleaning lady that every one at "First Things" have been talking so highly about.

Listen here sinner vic, you can fool some of the people all of the time but my gut feeling is not going to fall for that because "IT" can see "Here AM I Lord, I come to do Your Will" with those two dead cells so "I" know that something is "UP" and you can't fool my guts.

Ya! I know Victor! They're almost as smart as your rectum if you ask me!

WHAT DID YOU SAY sinner vic?

I was just thinking out loud and saying to myself that because you're a diabetic, you should make sure and feed your guts only the right foods or you could rec them, if you know what I mean. I wouldn't knowingly lie to you Victor, those two dead cells are simply friends of "Here AM I Lord, I come to do Your Will" and you know that "I" would not have brought them if I knew that they were "UP" to no "GOOD." "IT" just looks a little sneaky cause they haven't been eating the right food and/or breathing in the right air and the rumor that your guts are spilling is not true, they are not here because this is the site of the original church that this so call Jesus of yours had planned for His Children and if you don't believe me just ask them for yourself.

Never mine sinner vic and you of all should know that I'm not crazy enough to go listening to my gut feeling like some people do and between you, me, myself and "Eye," I mean "I" we want to hear from those three invisible so called friends of yours and "Eye" wants them to identify themselves first. Do you understand what "I" just said sinner vic?

I understand "IT" sinner vic but what if "I" UPSET "ONE" of them Victor?

Don't worry be happy sinner vic cause "I" will deal with "IT" if you know what I mean.

Enough already sinner vic and Victor, we want to see that cleaning lady who goes around saying that this "Jesus" is really our true son and we're not going to tell you who we are cause we are as "ONE" and if this place is the original church that your so called "Jesus" started, He needs a little training from our Staff of Invisible Angels if you know what I mean and sinner vic, we should have known better than to trust you again after you last convinced U>S that Victor's flesh was carrying a cell of this "Jesus" you all talk so highly of but when the chips are down, no body really knows if and the ones who say they know HIM well let's just say that after the curtains have been pulled they just keep "IT" to themselves.

That's not true and you know "IT" cause in the pass, when I heard those quiet voices behind the curtains at Saint Joseph hospital telling me to come and join them, there was no body there.

Tell U>S what we don't know Victor cause we saw you picking UP those chips and running with "IT" and we've been wasting our time falling you around ever since, so what's knew in your world today Victor? We were told by sinner vic that he was really your god and that you would be co-operating this time and that "IT" would not be like your so called "Turd" nervous breakdown where our doctors sat you in their chair with a pad and pencil and back then all you did was waste our precious time and this looks like more of "IT" cause I still can't see those so called Apostles and their Mother here like you said sinner vic. We should have known that "IT" was too good to be true.

Victor, I should have known "IT" right from the start when I heard your Msgr. at church give a great sermon about how Egypt was wrong concerning "Jesus" and "Jesus" never died and HE's still alive and he even continued saying in so many words that "Jesus" was there at the time and "I" started to believe "IT" and as I looked around, I could almost imagine
seeing a light of at least "ONE" dead cell in every body who was there shinning brightly so in other words, these Sunday body dead cells all believed "IT" and because about 5% of your body cells were shinning just as bright, Victor I started thinking that maybe "IT" was not make believe and then a few minutes later he said in so many other words again that "if "Jesus" was here right "NOW", he would tell you that "Israel was wrong in not accepting "Jesus" and everything He said..............

Stop "IT" right there and "NOW" you guys cause I'm not going to stand around listening to you dead cells who probably don't even exist when you claim to know "IT" all. "NOW" I see why my good Bishop insist that his priest keep a copy of their speaches so any A.S.S. like yourselves who go around getting hurtling into trouble by saying that so and so said this and that. Just incase you so called gods are trying to pick my brain cells, I'll have you know that yes "IT" sounded so believable and if he did contradict himself a little later by saying, "If "Jesus" was here right "NOW" He would tell U>S usual sinners)........ Listen closely, if that's the way "IT" happened then "IT" was a slip "UP" but personally if any of you dead cells really knew me like he knows me, he probably said "IT" because he knows that I've got a big ego and didn't want me to start thinking that I really was "Jesus" and who knows maybe he's been reading some of the stuff that I've sent my good Bishop in the pass and "ONE" was a letter to him saying that if I ever went to see him in the flesh and told him that I was "Jesus" then he was suppose to present me with that original letter which said in so many words to have one of there own also to present to me in return.

I hear ya! LOOk Victor! We're not going to call you a liar as to what you're telling U>S but right "NOW" you and who ever else is with you can see that the cleaning lady is not here right now but when she does show "UP" we'll be gay, I mean glad to them her that you guys called and had something important to tell her and I'm sure that being the lady that she is, she'll contact you in her own way so if you don't mind Victor we're going to join Spengler right "NOW" cause he just told U>S that he got a hole in one.

Ok Guys! I'm Sorry!

"IT" is ok Victor and please don't mention "IT" again but you must excuse U>S cause we must go and see how big that hole of Spengler really is.

I understand!