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"Why Not Call It 'Petraeus Village'"?

Postby Spengler » Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:56 am

"Why Not Call It 'Petraeus Village'"? on the Spengler Blog


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Extracts from today's Spengler essay at Asia Times Online:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LJ19Ak01.html

Why call not it a 'Petraeus Village'?
By Spengler

"May his name be blotted out!" declares the most terrible Hebrew curse. History has devised a curse more terrible still, that is, to have one's memory blotted out, all except for a name that popular usage links to disaster.

Schoolchildren no longer learn about King Pyrrhus of Epirus, who won battles against Rome at such heavy cost that he lost the war, but everyone knows that a "Pyrrhic victory" is to be avoided. Few remember Grigory Potyomkin (1739-1791), Catherine the Great's statesman and lover, but everyone knows the idiom "Potemkin Village", a facade constructed to deceive passing inspection.

Why not call it "Petraeus village"? General David Petraeus, now
America's commander in Afghanistan, pacified Iraq by putting 100,000 fighters for the country's Sunni minority on the American payroll. Now that America has withdrawn combat troops from Iraq and the Shi'ite-majority government in Baghdad has embraced Iran's military arm, the Sunni fighters are quitting by the thousand, and joining the anti-government guerrilla movement associated with al-Qaeda. This we learn from the October 17 New York Times:
Although there are no firm figures, security and political officials say hundreds of the well-disciplined fighters - many of whom have gained extensive knowledge about the American military - appear to have rejoined al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia. Beyond that, officials say that even many of the Awakening fighters still on the Iraqi government payroll, possibly thousands of them, covertly aid the insurgency.

The defections have been driven in part by frustration with the Shi'ite-led government, which Awakening members say is intent on destroying them, as well as by pressure from al-Qaeda. The exodus has accelerated since Iraq's inconclusive parliamentary elections in March, which have left Sunnis uncertain of retaining what little political influence they have and which appear to have provided al-Qaeda new opportunities to lure back fighters.

On September 27, the Washington Post reported that the Iraqi government had fired Sunni police officers in Anbar province.

When Petraeus held the Iraq command, he put over 100,000 Sunni gunmen on the American payroll, offering them money and weapons to lie low for the interim. That arrangement lasted until the government of Nuri al-Maliki invited the Iranian-backed party of Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr to join his government - the same Muqtada whose Mahdi Army battled American forces for control of Sadr City in 2004. News reports on October 15 cited unnamed Washington sources saying that the Obama administration would end its support for Maliki if he allied with Muqtada, although it is not clear what that might entail.

Sectarian war is playing out in the predictable way, and America will have nothing to show for a trillion dollars' worth of "nation-building" and several thousand dead soldiers except a civil war much bloodier than might have occurred without America's provision of money and guns to the Sunni Awakening. In May, I reviewed this likelihood in an essay titled General Petraeus' Thirty Years War (Asia Times Online, May 4, 2010.)

The "surge" turns out to be the facade of a Potemkin - or perhaps we should say Petraeus - village, a facade like the old Hollywood Western sets, behind which prospective combatants oil their weapons and refill their magazines.
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Organizations exist in order to protect their members from the consequences of error, and that is as true of the organs of the conservative movement as any other. Collectively and individually, the Republicans cannot easily admit that the whole business of nation-building was a gigantic blunder, not after a trillion dollars and four thousand dead.

The right-wing social engineers who planted the idea into the impressionable mind of Bush have their reputations to defend, and they will circle the wagons and fight to the death. Academics, journalists and think-tankers live hand to mouth, and have nothing to justify their next paycheck except for their street cred. No matter what the outcome, and no matter how deep the accumulation of facts, they will not admit error. If only Obama had continued the Bush policy, they insist, we would have triumphed in Iraq.

No one has excoriated Obama's foreign policy more than I (Life and premature death of Pax Obamicana Asia Times Online, December 24, 2009). But it seems self-serving to blame the present administration for the vast expansion of Iran's power.

Last week Iran's President Mahmud Ahmadinejad toured Lebanon like a triumphant overlord and threatened Israel with destruction. How did Lebanon turn into an Iranian protectorate? The Bush administration bears a great deal of responsibility for promoting the delusion that Hezbollah could be enticed into Lebanon's parliamentary system. Bush personally offered the idiotic thought that once Hezbollah officials had to fix potholes they would abandon their declared ambition to turn the Middle East into an Iranian-led Islamic Republic. On March 16, 2006, Bush told the press:
Our policy is this: We want there to be a thriving democracy in Lebanon. We believe that there will be a thriving democracy, but only if - but only if - Syria withdraws ... her troops completely out of Lebanon ... I like the idea of people running for office. There's a positive effect when you run for office. Maybe some will run for office and say, vote for me, I look forward to blowing up America. I don't know, I don't know if that will be their platform or not. But it's - I don't think so. I think people who generally run for office say, vote for me, I'm looking forward to fixing your potholes, or making sure you got bread on the table.

The Bush administration failed to scotch the Persian serpent when the costs of doing so would have been limited. These costs, though, would have been borne first of all by American troops in Iraq in constant contact with a hostile population. If attacked, Iran - just as Mullen explained - would have used such proxies as Muqtada's Mahdi Army to kill Americans. The Bush administration would have paid for it at the polls, which it did, despite the Potemkin, er, Petraeus Village success of the "surge". To dig Iran out of Lebanon today would require drastic action. It will be ugly, and to some extent it will be the fault of the Bush administration.

American voters are in a mood to blame Obama, and rightly so; his economic policy has failed miserably and he has no cards left to play. Republicans will blame him for strategic disaster as well, and Obama surely deserves his share of the blame. After the mid-term elections, though, and the likely loss of a Democratic majority in both Houses of Congress, Obama will demand of the Republicans: "What would you do?" The Republican answer cannot be to send American combat troops back to Iraq. They will try to blame Obama for the failure of a war that he inherited, and it will not wash with the voters.

At some point, the Republicans, if they wish to govern, will have to explain to the American public that America needs to fight fire with fire, asymmetric warfare against asymmetric warfare. There are many ways to do this, ranging from cyber-war to promotion of competing Islamic heresies, as I suggested in a September 14, 2010 essay (Terry Jones, asymmetrical warrior).

Spengler is channeled by David P Goldman, senior editor at First Things magazine.

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Postby ellens » Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:12 am

Al Maliki in many ways resembles Mahmoud Abbas, also in the news these days. They are both corrupt, colorless technocrats who inspire no one. It is hard to imagine any gunman, in the West Bank or Iraq, willing to sacrifice "blood and soul", as the old Arab chant goes, to fight for any cause led by either of these men. Western governments prefer Arab leaders who are educated, wear suits and ties rather than military fatigues and kaffiyahs, and give lectures from podiums rather than demagaogic rants from street corners. Unfortunately, Arab polities prefer the latter over the former consistently and universally. Filling potholes does not capture the Arab imagination as the worthy goal of a political leader after 1000 years of decline and humiliation at the hands of Christian and infidel powers.

I suppose Iraq will crack up now, as everyone always assumed it would, and Lebanon may well follow suit, while Iran slowly decays to the point of internal disintegration as well, and ditto for Syria. Then, we will have a fine mess on our hands that all the Saudi oil money in the world will not be able to correct.

There are 2 viable national states in the Middle East east of the Suez Canal - Israel and Turkey. The rest is, as they say, up for grabs.
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Asymmetric Warfare

Postby potkas7 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:13 am

[Republicans]...will have to explain to the American public that America needs to fight fire with fire, asymmetric warfare against asymmetric warfare. There are many ways to do this, ranging from cyber-war to promotion of competing Islamic heresies...


Is it a competing heresy that we need to promote or would we be better off promoting Bacon's Novum Organum as an alternative to the Koran? I got the impression after reading Spengler's review of Robert R. Reilly's book, The Closing of the Muslin mind, that you agreed with the premise that much of the problem we have with present-day Islam is traceable to Islam's eschewing of the tools of philosophy to examine their doctrines and their denial that we live in a rational universe, created by a rational God, and understandable via the the faculty of Human Reason, believing instead that the universe is simply an act of Allah's Will existing from moment to moment for only as long as he will it.

Having read Yehuda Nevo's book on the scarcity of archaeological evidence for the Islam's Traditional Account of its beginnings and John Wansbrough's two books on the lack of documentary evidence for the existence of the Koran as a book of revelation contemporary with the time of the Prophet, - all as a result of reading Spengler essays in AT - it seems to me that what we really need is for the History Channel to do a couple of documentaries on "The Mysteries of the Koran," and "In search of the Historical Muhammad."
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Postby PatrickMurphy » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:18 am

Is it a competing heresy that we need to promote or would we be better off promoting Bacon's Novum Organum as an alternative to the Koran? I got the impression after reading Spengler's review of Robert R. Reilly's book, The Closing of the Muslin mind, that you agreed with the premise that much of the problem we have with present-day Islam is traceable to Islam's eschewing of the tools of philosophy to examine their doctrines and their denial that we live in a rational universe, created by a rational God, and understandable via the the faculty of Human Reason, believing instead that the universe is simply an act of Allah's Will existing from moment to moment for only as long as he will it.

Having read Yehuda Nevo's book on the scarcity of archaeological evidence for the Islam's Traditional Account of its beginnings and John Wansbrough's two books on the lack of documentary evidence for the existence of the Koran as a book of revelation contemporary with the time of the Prophet, - all as a result of reading Spengler essays in AT - it seems to me that what we really need is for the History Channel to do a couple of documentaries on "The Mysteries of the Koran," and "In search of the Historical Muhammad."


Ah, if only it were that simple.

Islam is a tight noose around the soul, and built into it is a special mechanism that tightens it further whenever it is examined.

We'd like to be able to convert the Moslem masses by means of logic, and the best approach, logically, is to demonstrate that the whole foundation of the thing is pernicious myth. But Islam does not allow Moslems to think such thoughts to begin with. If it were possible, within Islam, to allow genuine textual and historical criticism, it would have already been done in the Moslem world. It is only here, in the West, where we've been doing it to our own tradition from the start, that such work can be done--and it is we who are able to be persuaded. To present such documentation in the Moslem world would be a waste of time--er, a death sentence--and were it to be done in the West as a targeted program it would be regarded as de facto proof that the West hates Islam and thus further reinforce the stranglehold.

Spengler's proposal would in fact work, though. Islam is, to quote a phrase, a house divided against itself to begin with. We can rely on internecine hatred never to cease in Islam. A First Things of internal Islamic ecumenicism is, in other words, simply impossible to imagine. Islam is fissiparous by nature. That can be exploited.
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Postby rhapsody » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:37 pm

Just thinking out loud.

It seems to me that what the US should do is entirely focus on but one thing: at what point do other peoples conflicts spill over and really threaten its interests, and what should the appropriate response be? Many scenarios, many options...

But.

In the "Meddle East", meddling in other peoples lives is the disease. As long as "who controls who" is not clear, people will meddle and ultimately fight until the stronger forces subdue and control the weaker ones. Borders may shift and be redrawn. The way the allies carved up the Meddle East along arbitrary lines perhaps set the stage. Not that any "good lines" were possible, it is just that the usual and unfortunate mechanism of territorial warfare will always, in the end, draw the "right" borders. No other mechanism is known to have ever worked. But when there is relative stability between the new territories that arise (of which none will be democratic in nature any time soon), less meddling will occur between those territories, and external powers feel less pressed to interfere and meddle with the meddlers, because there are less meddlers to meddle with.

Iraq and Afghanistan both will slide back to ethnic-religious violent confrontations, and it shows that meddling in other peoples affairs has no beneficial result whatsoever. There is one exception: when there is a state authority in which all right to power is concentrated and civilians are basically disarmed, as in our Western nation states. Police, military and independent courts are up to the task of managing internal violence and criminality because of their immensely overpowering dominance, and rational operations. Still they have their hands full in managing criminal violence already in our 'civilised' Western societies. Therefore it is an illusion indeed, to believe that a temporary military presence can do much good elsewhere, outside your own borders. One can take over a nation indefinately though, and control it as long as possible but our colonial pasts have shown that even that is illusory.

Somehow Spengler seems to believe that a smart sort of meddling around in that region will be beneficial to the USA and/or Israel. By destabilising your enemies. Which reads as: to help them be at each others throat. This is in my view however the same error. They don't need our help to be at each others throat, on the contrary. If you want more spontaneous meyham in the Meddle East, just get out as fast as you can now.

What remains is deciding: at what point do other peoples conflicts spill over my own border, form a serious threat to my interests and what should my response be? If "nation building" is an illusion, and meddling around very stupid because you'll get burned seriously and entangled in ways you don't want to.. what is left? Me thinks: make clear in advance what will be tolerated and when what not, and most importantly: attach a clear price tag to behaviors that you will not tolerate. That is a luxury to enjoy as long as you are stronger, it ends when you are the weaker.

The Meddle Easterners have the right to know exactly what the consequences will be when their shit spills over in any form to our societies. We will pay a fair price for their oil no matter the Shia or Sunni prick in charge, so they don't need to be angry with any of us in principle. But if they start piss over the fence, they should know in advance what will happen. Everybody will agree that consistency, predictability and transparancy is very good for instance when you raise kids or train animals... but somehow people came to believe that in the Meddle Eastern Madhouse 101 behavioral laws and logic don't apply anymore. That is just a lot of desert sand blown into their eyes.
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Postby Spengler » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:56 am

And here we have David Ignatius' scenario for the Petraeus Village in Afghanistan:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/18/AR2010101803596.html
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Postby rhapsody » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:53 pm

Spengler wrote:And here we have David Ignatius' scenario for the Petraeus Village in Afghanistan:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/18/AR2010101803596.html


"It's typical that Petraeus has been experimenting with another mix."

The Afghanistan operations start to sound like a cooking program. Better try this, also for the visuals.
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Re: Can't find him in the Border Area. Sure.

Postby ellens » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:29 pm

The whole ludicrous thing about the Afghanistan adventure is that the purpose of this is to prop up a central government there strong enough to prevent the country from being used as a base by OBL and Al Queda. But we all know that Al Queda's whereabouts is totally known by the ISI and in fact, they are basically protecting him. So, the US Gov't is sending money to the corrupt, ineffectual and feckless Pakistani government, most of which is siphoned off to the military elite, which is protecting OBL. We are also sending money to the Afghan gov't which is also corrupt, ineffectual and feckless, who are siphoning off this money and buying property and bank accounts in Dubai.

What a total waste. How big is Waziristan and the tribal areas of Pakistan? It's smaller than a fraction of the old Wild West in the US. Do you mean to tell me they can't go there and gun down the top AQ people the way they used to catch outlaws in the old West?

Hiring a local hit squad made of Pashtun tribesmen would have been a lot cheaper than all that aid to two bottomless pit governments. Didn't the British do things like this all the time during the period of the Raj?
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Postby thenachash » Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:58 pm

Spengler,

Now u r alienating the Bush groupies? U repeatedly abuse Obama (Btw, The essays about his women and Michelles anger were classics). Who do u have left to hang out with? :D Well Im glad someone with as much credibility about Obama as u, can so clearly criticize Bush. Has anyone ever called u an Obama supporter after hearing ur comments on Bush?
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Postby cassowary » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:13 pm

The same thing is going to happen in Afghanistan. Obuma wants to pull out. See this article by Wall Street Journal:

The Trouble With Talking to the Taliban

The trouble is that if Karzai or for that matter Maliki thinks Obuma wants to pull out, they better save their own skins by coming to (surrender) terms with the enemy. In Karzai's case, its the taliban. In Maliki's case its Moqtada al Sadr. Withdrawing troops from Iraq is sending the wrong signal to both friends and enemies.

Obuma does not care about protecting US interests. Or maybe its because the US is broke and cannot afford to fight two wars. Switching US troops from Iraq to Afghanistan is a mistake. Iraq is strategic to US interests and it has oil. Afghanistan has no value.

I think Obuma has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Postby MarcH » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:56 am

I agree with a main point of this article that the failure of the US to topple or at least check the Khomenist government of Iran will be seen as a historic failure. Furthermore, I think that this failure with respect to Iran, rather than any wasteful bribes to Sunni tribes, was the main cause of the shortcomings of our Iraq policy.

This article is wrong in its description COIN operations in Iraq 2007 to 2009. As I have written before, to write that the principal focus of the Petraeus Surge was payoffs to Sunnis to leave AQI is incorrect. Payments to Sunni tribal leaders for public works (yes, including wasteful and pointless public works) and to convert their gunmen to a security force (Sons of Iraq) were a part of operations, but would not have worked in a vacuum. This is extensively discussed in the professional literature and the popular press. I don't think you'll find a single account based on primary sources of Petraeus' COIN as primarily bribes to local leaders

Petraeus and the government leaders who had his back (Sen. Lieberman comes to mind) never claimed that they were establishing a Cambridge, Mass. style democracy in Iraq. I heard Petraeus call the objective an "Iraqacy" rather than a democracy. Lieberman described the objective as a moderate, pro-US. Iraqi state ("Jordan with oil wells").

Such a project is not fast food. We needed more time and a stronger US commitment. Unfortunately, beginning in 2008, U.S political culture publicly sent the loud and clear message that we wanted to leave Iraq very soon. Is it then any surprise that Maliki looked for a coalition with the Sadrists and mended his own bridges with Tehran rather than build an alliance with Allawi and his Sunni constituents? The Iranians and their tools gave a clear example of what rewards awaited Iraqis who supported the US (a favorite reward was a power drill to kneecaps with the coup de grace to skull). An Iraqi leader at any level who stuck with the weak horse US past early 2009 would have been a fool and been signing a death warrant for his family.
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Postby Spengler » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:33 pm

Iran had the option to use its proxies to drastically increase casualties during the "surge." Moqtadr al-Sadr was sitting on Qom rather than in Sadr City through the period. If the US had taken military action against Iran's nuclear program during this period, Iran would have done precisely this. Petraeus used all sorts of rough tactics to suppress militants, but putting 100,000 Sunni fighters on the American payroll and leaving the Iranians alone was the key to his apparent success. He offered massive carrots to both sides (the Sunnis get money and weapons, the Iranians buy time for their nuclear program). I don't deny that there were sticks, but that was ancillary.

As for a "Jordan with oil wells:" the idea that a stable Iraq could emerge under the best of circumstances is dubious in my view, but the idea that a stable Iraq could persist in the context of Iranian regional hegemony is delusional, period. And there is no question that Iran's power has grown (in inverse proportion to its social, political and economic problems internally) since 2008. Its natural enemy, Turkey, is happily appeasing Iran (and its ruling party is taking money from Tehran) even as they wrangle over control of Hamas. Iran is just short of taking over Lebanon. Iran is present at the international meeting on Afghanistan. And they closer to acquiring nuclear weapons (despite Stuxnet).

If we had started with the premise that Iran had to be stopped, our stance in Iraq would NOT have been to build another Jordan, but to manage a controlled burn, as it were.
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