ellens wrote:Not at all. The Saudis and the Iranians are enemies til the death of either or both (most likely outcome).
Not according to this article in Haaretz
Saudi Arabia has been supporting all of Israel's actions against Iran and they aren't even discrete about it.
They used to. Not anymore.
Meanwhile in Bahrain the Iranians are stirring up trouble with the majority Shiite population just as they are in Yemen and in Iraq. This is all aimed at destabilizing Saudi Arabia, in the long run, as Iran makes its play for the Arabian peninsula, as well as for control of Iraq.
Again, this is how things used to be. They've cut a deal. You ought to read the article.
Turkey and Iran are natural rivals in competing for domination of the disintegrating Arab states in between their territories, most of which were, at one time or another, parts of the Persian or Turkish Empires.
You're living in the past. Turkey has moved on. Turkey is making ties to Iran
People always tend to forget that there have never been independent states in the territories where Syria, Jordan and the Gulf States now lie. These territories were always parts of someone's empire. Creating independent states in places where no one has ever managed to sustain such states before is historically ludicrous,
Tell that to George Washington.
even if it weren't demographically and economically ludicrous (which it is, as well). The neocon error was in thinking that Iraqis view themselves as a nation, when clearly they don't. Neither do the Syrians, the Lebanese, the Saudis or even the Bahrainis. 60 years of independence has not created a sense of national identity in any of these places. The one Arab country that has created a modicum of national identity in this region is Jordan, due to the deftness and decency of its Hashemite rulers, and strong support from a variety of international actors. The others have not made any headway at all in 60 years.
It's amazing that impossible countries have lasted for so long.