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Joseph Bottum

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The Signpost at the Crossroads

A special preview of The Public Square, from the new issue of First Things, the August/September issue, just being sent to subscribers and newsstands now:

You head down the road of public life in America, and you run up against religion. From the conversations in the barber shops and the coffee klatches, through the aldermen’s offices and the town halls, the school boards and the zoning commissions, the campaigns and the columnists, and eventually to the state houses and even, perhaps, to that white-domed Capitol building, far off in Washington—somewhere along the line you come to the crossroads where religion cuts across your path.

You travel the long road of religion in America, and you find the Bible chapels, scattered along the prairie like tumbleweeds that have somehow grown white vinyl siding. You drive past the green-lawn suburban churches with cutesy messages on the brick-framed signs placed out near the street. You pass the exhaust-stained marble fronts of the old city congregations, the yellow taxis inching angrily by. You visit the grand cathedrals and synagogues, announcing their people’s success in America, this newfoundland, and you see the pulpits and the choir lofts and the pews and the Sunday schools—the church basement halls, with their dented aluminum coffeemakers and styrofoam cups, their book tables, their after-service conversations burbling away. And somewhere down that highway you come, again, to the crossroads where the public life of the nation confronts you.

There is a marker at that place, naming its many promises and dangers for travelers, with the word abortion at the top. Even now, abortion remains what it has been for more than thirty years: the signpost at the intersection of religion and American public life.

Of course, there are those who think this shouldn’t be so. Personally, I cannot see how abortion could not rank first. We eliminate 1.3 million unborn children in this country every year, a number that dwarfs, by far, the impact of every other activity with which the moral teachings of the churches might be concerned. For that matter, the story of abortion is a tale of blood and sex and power and law—I do not know what more anyone could need for public significance. The people who say they are uninterested in the issue of abortion have always seemed, to me, to be trying to suppress the imagination that most makes us human.

Nonetheless, even in the churches some do not see things this way, and they want the whole issue simply to go away. But the fact that they wish abortion didn’t matter shows that abortion does, in fact, matter. It’s proof that the social observation remains true, for good or for ill. Whether one approves or not, the issue of abortion is here in America—the signpost at the crossroads.

One person who wishes things were different is Mitch Daniels, Republican governor of Indiana and candidate for president. He has made some news for himself, among conservatives, with the successful governorship that managed to keep Indiana out of the oceans of debt that, once the recession came, swamped many other states. The coming 2012 presidential election, he says, is the most important of his lifetime—for it primarily concerns “survival issues.”

And so, he told Washington Post columnist (and former Bush speechwriter) Michael Gerson, “If there were a WMD attack, death would come to straights and gays, pro-life and pro-choice. If the country goes broke, it would ruin the American dream for everyone. We are in this together. Whatever our honest disagreements on other questions, might we set them aside long enough to do some very difficult things without which we will be a different, lesser country?”

Gerson pursued Daniels for a statement because of the long, brilliantly constructed feature about the man by Andrew Ferguson in the Weekly Standard. It’s a sign of how attractive Daniels is that Ferguson, one of the right’s most wry and skeptical essayists, should write something so taken with the man.

But, along the way, Daniels told Ferguson that the next president will “have to call a truce on the so-called social issues. We’re going to just have to agree to get along for a little while,” until the nation’s economic issues are resolved. And one has to wonder, a little, about Daniels’ political sense. Did he think a reporter as good as Ferguson wouldn’t quote the line? The backlash started almost immediately, with loud growls from the family-values groups, while rival Republican candidate Mike Huckabee seized on the blunder to declare the openly pro-life Daniels insufficiently pro-life.

And blunder it was to use that word truce—for several reasons, beginning with the guilelessness of Daniels’ statement. Even if you thought it were true, why would you say it? By the measures of the last several elections, being recognized as the pro-life presidential candidate gives a net political gain of about 2 percentage points: 6 percent of actual voters are close to being single-issue voters on the pro-life side, and around 4 percent are at least somewhat close to being single-issue voters on the side of legalized abortion.

It’s a pretty easy guess that calling for a truce will buy a Republican not a single vote from among that abortion-supporting 4 percent: Every one of them voted for President Obama in the last election, and they remain a firm base for him today. Governing might be made easier for a president if he were able to impose an unannounced truce once elected, but any talk about that truce will ensure only that the abortion-opposing portion of the electorate will have no enthusiasm for him.

In any event, I’m not convinced that avoiding “all divisive issues”—the awkward explanatory follow-up Daniels gave Mark Hemingway in an interview for the Washington Examiner—will actually make governing easier. “Never allow a crisis to go to waste,” White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel declared at the start of President Obama’s presidency, and the overwhelmingly Democratic House and Senate have—in the midst of the same economic crisis that so worries Daniels—set aside no part of their social agenda. Why, then, imagine that dodging battles on social issues will allow a Republican president to gather Democrats for cuts in budget items? Lots of those budget items are the divisive social issues: in health funding, and education entitlements, and marriage tax reforms, and welfare payments, and all the rest.

Besides, one way or another, we will come to it: the crossroads where the sign of abortion stands. There will be judicial fights—does Daniels hope as president he never has to nominate someone to the Supreme Court?—and there will be executive orders on the Mexico City policy of banning overseas funding for abortions, and there will be the annual tussle over the Hyde Amendment that bans direct federal abortion-funding, and there will be the fighting and refighting over the recently introduced bill to allow, despite the Hyde Amendment, abortions to be performed on military bases. Abortion is here, and not to take a stand is to take a stand.

Every two years, we seem to go through this. Usually it comes after the election—and often from Republicans. There’s a good-sized section of the conservative commenting classes that seems to blame the pro-lifers if the Republicans lose, and dismiss the pro-life vote if the Republicans win.

We saw a good bit of this after the Democrats’ recent victories. You might have thought, given the economic worries expressed in exit polls, together with voter unhappiness about military progress in the Middle East, that economic and foreign-policy Republicans would have been the two camps blamed for the GOP’s overwhelming defeats in 2006 and 2008. But there were plenty of columnists and opinion-givers at the time willing to blame the social planks of the party platform—despite the fact that the social conservatives were the only constituency that really did turn out to vote for McCain–Palin.

Sometimes, though, the complaint does come before the election. Jack Kemp, back in the 1980s, made noises like this while trying to position himself as a presidential candidate, and his presidential ambitions suffered as a result. In 1996 Phil Gramm thought he could do well, despite his pro-life credentials, by traveling out to Colorado just to tell James Dobson that he wouldn’t campaign on abortion: “I’m not a preacher, Mr. Dobson,” he was reported to have said, and down with a thump went his attempt to hold off the nomination of Bob Dole.

All of this seems to involve a theory that Republicans form not so much a political party as a hotel corridor. Sure, there’s a room down the hall that holds the neoconservatives, and another room that holds the business interests (a pretty sparsely populated room, given the fact that big business donated heavily to Obama instead of McCain in the last election), and another room that holds the social conservatives, and another room that holds the Tea Party fiscal conservatives. If the Republicans close off or hide some of the louder, more déclassé rooms (so the idea goes), then the corridor will be used by a greater number of uncommitted voters, passing through just in time for the next election.

There’s only one problem with this corridor theory—which is that it’s completely wrong. A modern political party isn’t a neat set of distinct rooms off a hallway; it’s much more like a swirling throng at a reception, bunching up awkwardly between the buffet and the bar. You’re never quite sure how someone ended up standing next to someone else. The Tea Partiers aren’t opposed to the social conservatives—because most of them are the social conservatives. And Mitch Daniels is foolish to call for a pre-proclaimed truce on any issue. Truces are what come after battles, not before them. It is a counsel of smallness, not the greatness that Daniels rightly sees the moment needs.

It’s true enough, however, that the pro-life movement is not the Republican party, and the Republican party is not the pro-life movement. They’ve just been standing next to each for a long time now.

And here we get down to it—the real reason, beyond all party politics, that no truce on abortion is possible. One can imagine pro-life absolutisms that are unhelpful and counterproductive. The refusal, for instance, to accept the introduction of pro-life counseling into pregnancy centers because those centers also counsel for abortion. Or the denunciation of small, state-by-state measures because they do not address the central problem of the insertion of abortion as a right into the Constitution by Roe v. Wade. A particularly wrong-headed example, wasting incalculable money and energy, is the attempt made by several states over the last decade to pass state constitutional amendments that ban abortions—hoping thereby to create the silver bullet that would force the Supreme Court to reconsider the abortion license.

But the rejection of Mitch Daniels’ truce proposal is not this sort of absolutism. We should not accept a truce on abortion because the pro-life position is, in fact, winning. With horrifying slowness, yes, but each graduating class of young people is more opposed to abortion than the last, and in the long run the great task of persuasion and argument will prevail.

Here’s one simple and interesting measure: There is hardly a single law professor of real weight or seriousness who will claim anymore that Roe v. Wade was good constitutional reasoning. Oh, they’ll suggest that it’s settled doctrine, made weighty by the generations of women that have placed reliance on it, and they’ll argue that the rest of case law has bent itself so far to accommodate Roe and its progeny that we cannot undo it without major damage to the legal system. But as late as 1990 the law schools were filled with senior academics ready to defend the legal reasoning of Roe purely on its own terms. And today, twenty years later, there are next to none.

More to the point, however, we cannot accept a truce on abortion, because the pro-life movement dies the moment it ceases to move forward. Something terrifyingly providential happened back in 1973, when the Supreme Court stepped in and created an abortion right far beyond anything the American public was ready to accept. Most European countries have today a less-liberal license for abortion than the United States does, and they typically arrived at their abortion laws in gradual steps, each one of which did not roil the culture too much. In America, we got it all at once, and we got it hard, and we got it extreme. And the result is that Europe has nearly no significant pro-life movement, and the United States leads the world in opposition to abortion.

If the pro-life fight ever stops, even for a moment—if we ever accept a truce and let the status quo sit for a while undisturbed—we abandon the terrible path of providence that God has set for this country since 1973. We settle in, like Europe, and we surrender.

No, we cannot halt. We cannot falter. We cannot pause. We cannot agree to wait. No truce—not now, not ever.

Joseph Bottum is editor of First Things.

Comments:

7.2.2010 | 9:23am
JOHN WICKEY says:
Poll numbers dropped for Mitch Daniels when he signaled that anti-abortion would not be a primary objective of his politics. There is a growing reservoir of public opinion that wishes this evil would be more squarely faced in a legal way that would take it away from public view. It is too disturbing. There is also a growing reservoir of opinion that is going to support a somewhat more conservative fiscal and social agenda. But, is there a public will to politically endorse and follow through on real change toward a more conservative and religion-friendly culture? Legal changes do not necessarily result in cultural changes. Laws against illicit drug use or trafficking have not changed the fact that a large segment of our youth are destroying themselves in this evil culture. The public will to develop a more righteous society is fragile and the right to abortion is not necessarily the major or only issue.

We live in a culture that is increasingly individualistic and non-religious (pagan). Each week brings new reports of how God is being erased from our cultural mores. Sexual satisfaction is increasingly seen to be a need, an appetite to be assuaged, rather than a desire to be curbed and managed for the purpose of procreation. The birth of children is increasingly seen to be under the purview of parental decision, not Divine gifts created in the image of God. Marriage is increasingly seen to be a triviality, not a Divine calling. Women developing into adulthood increasingly see that motherhood is not seen to be the primary Divinely-created calling for their lives. Men developing into adulthood recognize that their Divinely created calling of being in charge of their marriage and family is not necessarily respected. They cannot securely develop a progeny that will be a testament to their lives. Public non-religious (pagan) schools are increasingly in charge of the development of children. These issues are the underpinnings of our culture that include abortion as something that is more an embarrassment than an evil. I am sure that the public feels some disquiet about all of these issues, but they are not the political issues that engage the public will enough to blunt these trends. We may believe that politics can change the culture, but it is probably true that politics is more a product of the culture than a harbinger of change.

Christianity has largely retreated in the public square, even though we might wish otherwise. We might expect politics to take up the slack, but where are the men of vision who would lead us into a more secure future? The most recent president is a preacher-like orator. The public followed him like a pied-piper. The abortion issue is at one with the pagan fabric of our modern culture. It was there in Rome during the rise of Christianity. I wish I could be confident that Christianity would change our present culture the way it did Rome.
7.2.2010 | 9:27am
One of the great ironies of the Left is this:

They are willing to murder 1.3 million babies every year. And yet they have great compassion for the millions of aliens who have entered our country illegally.

Shouldn't they have great compassion for defenseless life, and enforced the laws we have against the ILLEGAL ALIENS who have invaded our country?
7.2.2010 | 11:50am
Paul says:
Mr. Alleyn,

I wonder if it's not best that we leave these distinct issues detached. It seems to me that they are not obviously flip sides of the same coin. But even if they are, the waters are muddied by intertwining them and putting them on par. Laxness with respect to illegal immigration is not anywhere so grave a wrong as abortion. So long as the embryo and fetus are human persons (as we believe--based on logic and science--they are), then abortion involves us in an evil greater than our greatest past blight--namely, the evil of slavery. In fact, if the unborn are human persons, then abortion involves us in an American holocaust, the magnitude of which is scarcely calculable--for we have destroyed more human life by abortion than Hitler did in WWII. Soon, perhaps, we will catch Stalin. To put abortion on par with illegal immigration is to lessen the magnitude of the wrong involved in abortion. I think we should be careful to avoid doing this. Moreover, in denouncing illegal immigration, let us not forget the intrinsic dignity of the person of the illegal immigrant. Let us not forget that this one is made in the imago dei and that this one is one for whom Christ gave his life, the just for the unjust.
7.2.2010 | 12:53pm
Richard says:
I would be more inclined to agree with an anti-abortion argument from someone that has adopted a crack cocaine baby or an AIDS baby.

I would be more inclined to buy into anti-abortion doctrine preached by bishops that don't hide child abusers or move them around, or look the other way while a young person's life is ruined before it really begins.

I would listen to the evils of abortion as murder characterizations from someone that campaigned against politicians that think nothing of sending troops to Third World countries to make people be democratic and which wars kill thousands of unsuspecting young people......for nothing.

I will listen to health care policy arguments if someone can show me where the government participated in or forced women to have an abortion.

And I will be glad to oppose all abortions when the ONLY reason for such was convenience and not about health or the continued life of the mother.

And, of course, I also need to think of the country I live in and the will of the majority. Roe v. Wade may be bad law but it appears the majority seem content with it, basically. The article is in the end about continuing the fight to make abortion illegal which is fine with me. But until the law is changed, it would be nice if the crusaders entertained more positive and moderate ways of dealing with folks that don't see the world the way they do.
7.2.2010 | 12:57pm
Mr. Paul,

Perhaps it is best to leave them separate. I wasn't trying to draw any equivalency between to two "issues." Still, even though the invasion by ILLEGAL ALIENS is not a life-and-death threat in the same sense that abortion is, the issue is of crucial importance and not to be placed on a back burner.

Every human being is a child of God — what Christian would deny that? Every human being is also subject to laws and rules and should be punished - not rewarded — when they break laws and rules. Christians can show real compassion for ILLEGAL ALIENS by following them back to their native country, where they are citizens, and help them there. That would show true compassion, real charity, real self-sacrifice.

Anyway, I was pointing out the arbitrary way in which people of the Left display their compassion.
7.2.2010 | 1:05pm
"A modern political party isn’t a neat set of distinct rooms off a hallway; it’s much more like a swirling throng at a reception, bunching up awkwardly between the buffet and the bar...It’s true enough, however, that the pro-life movement is not the Republican party, and the Republican party is not the pro-life movement. They’ve just been standing next to each for a long time now."

Excellent description of our current political alliance! I hope and pray that this swirling throng comes together, however awkwardly, to advance the pro-life movement this November.

I agree with your final conclusion but for another reason. A truce in this war is impossible because, by definition, the terms of any truce must necessarily include a cessation of hostilities, including the killing of innocent human lives. This would constitute victory rather than a mere truce.

Let us recommit our noble efforts to the goal of ultimate victory!
7.2.2010 | 1:50pm
EdSchoen says:
Richard --

I applaud your courage in articulating the concerns of the left. But you underscore the problem when you suggest that "it would be nice if the crusaders entertained more positive and moderate ways of dealing with those who don't see the world the way they do." Do you suggest the same positive and moderate response to the child abuse crisis, or the problems of poverty and drud addiction, or international conflict? It seems that you would consider these issues to be wrongs that should not be tolerated, but not so abortion. Doesn't that put you in the same place as the rest, i.e., both unhappy and unforgiving? The bottom line continues to be whether one considers abortion to be a serious moral offense, a right beyond the purview of the public, or just a public inconvenience. I don't see much room for a truce in that discussion.
7.2.2010 | 2:00pm
Mike says:
In response to Richard:
I would be more willing to listen enviro types like Gore and Robert Kennedy if they weren't such hypocrites flying in private jets and limousines or had mansions with carbon footprints equivalent to a thousand average citizens.
I would be more willing to listen to the health police about what we should eat if they would recognize the unrivaled public Heath risk accompanying a single occurrence of sodomy and stop teaching children that it is safe and perfectly natural.
I would be more willing to listen to AIDS activists when they accept responsibility for a completely prevetable disease and change their lifestyle rather than expecting the rest of us to pay for the research and treatment.
The list could go on forever.
7.2.2010 | 4:21pm
Karen says:
"Women developing into adulthood increasingly see that motherhood is not seen to be the primary Divinely-created calling for their lives. Men developing into adulthood recognize that their Divinely created calling of being in charge of their marriage ."

This sentence encapsulates beautifully why I will always be pro-choice, and why being pro-choice is absolutely essential to feminism. Your side in on this issue believes women are walking wombs, with no minds or dreams or thoughts worth pursing. We exist solely and exclusively to provide males with doormats and punching bags. When the Catholic church and "pro-lifers" start supporting women in participating in society as full participants, then you might get more support for forced pregnancy.
7.2.2010 | 6:30pm
JOHN WICKEY says:
I reread my contribution and recognized that I had not wanted to say that abortion was primarily an embarrassment, rather than an evil. I meant to say that the public regards it in that way. I believe that it is evil, a secondary effect of the individualistic core of our culture. Karen expresses the frequent feminist vengefulness nicely.
7.2.2010 | 6:55pm
Mr. Wickey--
Please describe what would you like to see in place of ". . . the individualistic core of our culture."?
7.2.2010 | 7:58pm
andrew says:
to quote karen:

"Your side in [sic] on this issue believes women are walking wombs, with no minds or dreams or thoughts worth pursing [sic]. We exist solely and exclusively to provide males with doormats and punching bags. When the Catholic church and "pro-lifers" start supporting women in participating in society as full participants, then you might get more support for forced pregnancy."

i suspect karen's insights say more about karen than about mr. wickey and the rest of the "pro-lifers." who in the world believes women are walking wombs with no minds? do feminists really think "pro-lifers" believe such absurdities?

as for the catholic church supporting women's participation in society, i once met a young lady who was ex-catholic because of her perception of the church's misogyny and patriarchy. i told her i was becoming catholic precisely because of the church's very high view of womanhood. she looked at me quizzically until i uttered two words: saint mary. and her "participation in society."
7.2.2010 | 11:26pm
Paul says:
Mr. Alleyn,

I certainly agree that the left are selective and inconsistent in the application of their doctrines. Sometimes, as in the case of their conception of tolerance or of liberty, the inconsistency follows from the doctrine itself.

On the question of immigration, I shall only say that I'm on the same page as Prof. Glendon. Well, perhaps I'll add (law and order conservative though I am) that part of our problem with the border and immigration has a long and problematic history. Some of our present difficulties may result from the unjust and dishonest actions of indiscriminate men like our own Pres. James K. Polk (Polk the Mendacious, as he was frequently called). There's also the matter of prudence. Illegal immigration is less than ideal. But it also exists as a fact that we do not have the fiscal and technological resources to resolve. So perhaps rather than being moral perfectionists on the question of immigration we should, rather, be prudential. The so-called amnesty bill--an idea with roots in Reagan--was prudential. The moral perfectionism of those who rejected it represented a self-destructive imprudence. Or so I see it. That's too much on that question, I suppose.

On abortion, it seems we are in agreement. But even here we must, as Clark Forsythe reminds us in a recent book, not allow the best to become the enemy of the good.
7.2.2010 | 11:45pm
Mr. Paul,

I've heard it all before and am still not convinced. Close the borders; enforce the laws; quit leaning on a convenient narrative about the evil politicians to excuse the invasion of our country by ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Reagan pushed for amnesty and got it; and they kept coming and still keep coming. I am far from a "moral perfectionist" (I'm not sure what you mean by the phrase), just a guy who believes in the rule of law. Without the rule of law, we will slip into tyranny. The path to Hell is paved with good intentions, and, I might add, false compassion.

"Law and order" is often mindlessly used in a pejorative sense, although I can't imagine why.

Au revoir
7.3.2010 | 12:03am
Richard says:
Somehow so many of you are able to filter out so much injustice, suffering, brutality, cruelty and barbarism in this world and focus on one moral doctrine. It must be comforting to be able to do that. I suppose it is good for the well-being of the soul as the ancient fathers used to write.
7.3.2010 | 9:37am
Karen says:
In response to Andrew:

Do pro-lifers celebrate the fact that 60% of college freshman are women, and that women are now half of law and medical students, or do they write hand-wringing complaints that women won't be able to get married? What is the official pro-life opinion of Title IX?

Do pro-lifers support parental leave laws?

Do pro-lifers provide monetary support to battered women's shelters?

Do pro-lifers believe that men should be "heads of the family" or do they believe that women should have an equal voice in the family and the world?

I have never heard anyone from the "pro-life" movement give concrete and specific support to any policy advancing women's rights. Like Mary might be great, but it has absolutely nothing to do with contemporary policy discussions.
7.3.2010 | 12:26pm
Ben says:
Karen,

No, I celebrate the fact that more women than ever before have been able to pursue higher education, which is subtly different from the facts you mention. I'm not sure why you assume that there is such a thing as "the official pro-life opinion of Title IX." We're not a political party, we don't have a platform.

I support parental leave laws, for fathers as well as mothers.

I work with a ministry that provides shelter and support for women with histories of drug abuse and prostitution. As you can imagine, many of these women have also suffered physical violence.

I believe women should have equal voice in all arenas, including the church. I'm an Episcopalian, and I'm proud of the fact that my church was among the first to ordain female priests.

And I am, of course, pro-life.
7.3.2010 | 1:17pm
Paul says:
Richard,

Who focuses on just one moral doctrine. People in the pro-life cause are committed to various other projects as well--some to alleviating the aids crisis in Africa and some to providing clean water and alleviating malaria there and elsewhere in the world. Most pro-life people I know give quite a bit of money to charity work of various sorts. My parents have been part of the pro-life movement since it began. Lots of their charitable contributions and their volunteer time goes to other causes--in particular, to an orphanage in Latin America. Other pro-lifers I know sink a great deal of money and effort into ending the international, sex-slave trade. And yet other pro-lifers are committed to feeding and clothing and sheltering the starving, the naked, and the homeless. So you've really created a straw man and a caricature. Just because someone is pro-life doesn't mean they aren't engaged in alleviating suffering elsewhere in the world--and it doesn't mean they aren't passionate about those other causes. If you don't like the pro-life movement, fine. But don't make false accusations.

Of course, saying that someone shouldn't focus on abortion does seem to presuppose that abortion isn't a real or a significant crisis. But those in the pro-life community believe that the unborn child is a human person, a non-intrumental good possessed of inestimable, intrinsic value and possessed of inalienable rights--including that first of inalienable rights, the right to life. Was Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrong to focus most of his attention and energy on getting Jews out of Nazi Germany? Was William Wilberforce wrong to spend most of his energy on endeavoring first to end the slave trade and then to end the institution itself within British jurisdiction? I submit that they were not--precisely because they were facing the great moral crisis of their time, the presence of other crises notwithstanding. You [Richard] not only assume that abortion is not the great crisis of our time but that it is not even a great crisis of our time. Your comments belie your belief that the unborn is not an innocent human life who, as such, merits not being intentionally killed.

By the way, you really should read Mother Theresa on this. That saintly woman (and I say that not lightly, for I'm not Catholic), talked about how abortion was a greater evil than starvation or malnutrition or children dying of disease--and yet she spent most of her time helping those in need of bodily goods. Yet she was passionately pro-life and held a view of abortion no different than that articulated here. Mother Theresa, among others, gives the lie to your caricature.
7.3.2010 | 1:42pm
Paul says:
Karen,

I'm not sure anyone has any evidence one way or the other as to the tendency of members of the pro-life community on these questions. But the pro-life position as such doesn't have a stance on these questions. It's a response to a particular social evil, that is an intrinsic injustice and so unjust regardless of what one has to say about these other questions.

But I suppose that many in the pro-life community celebrate the achievements of women and give money and even time to support women in general. It is little known, but evidentially conclusive, that religiously and socially conservative folks give more money and volunteer more time to charitable causes than do theologically liberal or secular folks. People assume the opposite is true. But the statistical evidence overwhelmingly points the opposite direction.

Moreover, in my family, my great aunt was one the first women CPAs in the country. We were proud of that. My mom got her accounting degree, while having to study with a number of chauvinistic professors. We denounced that. And, we were unrelentingly pro-life at the same time. The house I grew up was typically pro-life. But it was not theologically or politically progressive. We were quite conservative on both fronts. I think if you actually looked into the matter, you'd be a bit surprised. Many religious conservatives have long been involved in international charity--a good many conservatives have long supported the work of World Vision, which is more proficient than any major government in international relief work. One could go on and on. But what statistical evidence exists points in a different direction than your questions seem to imply. It's worth looking into.
7.3.2010 | 3:43pm
MOGS says:
"Women developing into adulthood increasingly see that motherhood is not seen to be the primary Divinely-created calling for their lives. Men developing into adulthood recognize that their Divinely created calling of being in charge of their marriage ."

Does this mean that the woman in the marriage must have children whenever her husband demands? Realistically, until the anti-abortionists encourage women to take charge of their own bodies and insist on early and deep training in birth control, there will continue to be women made pregnant against their planning and against their will. And abortions will continue to take place.
7.3.2010 | 9:27pm
bonnie says:
If one faces the issue of abortion face to face with God, either through an intellectual honesty borne or "death bed" reality, or through the humbled cry of the mystically purged pure heart, in the crucible of contemplation, the bottom line is the same. On this level it cannot be dressed up with contemporary self-serving rationalizations, or avoided through ostensibly "compassionate" decoys.

All public and private issues come down to "I AM," to life. And God has made it abundantly clear...in Deuteronomy 30.

"I set before you life and death, a blessing and a curse. Choose life that you and your children may live."

Each of us makes the "choice" before we ever engage in the pro-creative act...how do we answer that question?
7.4.2010 | 1:04am
Alexander says:
MOGS: How many men do you know that intimidate or demand their wives or girlfriends to get pregnant against their wishes? Maybe I'm not well traveled enough, but I don't think I've ever heard of this in a modern context. However, I've heard the story of the boyfriend demanding an abortion against the woman's wishes far too often.

Also, this post reminded me of a wonderful program called the Crossroads Walk, which has taken literally John Paul the Great's directive to take a Culture of Life to the streets of America. Every summer, three groups of youth walk from the West Coast to Washington D.C. to promote the Culture of Life. Their website is www.crossroadswalk.org if you want to donate or join them. :)

[Sorry for the blatant marketing, but the post seemed to almost demand a plug for it]
7.4.2010 | 6:30am
Don Roberto says:
We should not mince words. Abortion for any reason is evil. It destroys the new human, an utterly unique being, one who was meant to be, one with untold potential. Even for atheists and equivocotheists, like Karen, it should be obvious that this legalized murder is more obviously wrong in America, by many measures the richest country in the world, where 98% of all abortions are undertaken for convenience of the parents (e.g., so the mother can finish her college degree and the father can move on to his next thoughtless fling), who by their despicable actions demonstrate that they are idolaters, worshipping a false god of carnal gratification.

(These beasts may never realize it, but marriage in a relationship that is open to life is a thousand times more gratifying than the 10,000 pathetic liaisons of Wilt Chamberlain.)

Fornication is a choice, not abortion. Abortion is wicked. One (worse) sin cannot undue another. Those who perpetuate abortion are wicked. The wicked will go dumfounded to Sheol.

7.4.2010 | 2:41pm
MOGS says:
Don Roberto. You say "Abortion for any reason is evil." How about the the fetus carried by a 13-year old raped by her father? If you say, "for any reason," you have to be willing to force a 14-year old victim of incest into growing a child. I don't believe God could possibly want such a thing. It is only men who demand that it happen
7.4.2010 | 4:23pm
Herself says:
My husband is an adoptee born in the early 1960s. We know very little about his birth mother, beyond the fact that she was young. It is certainly not impossible that she was a rape or incest victim, though we'll probably never know that.

What we do know is that, willingly or not, she grew a child whose existence she had not planned. He was born and brought joy to a couple who would not otherwise have had a son. He grew up, made lifelong friendships, married me, and became the father of children who live because he was given life. He also became the kind of teacher whose former students write regularly to thank him for his influence in their lives.

Now, men might have thought, as men often do think, that it would be better and easier for a girl in trouble simply to be rid of her trouble. The means existed, even in those days, and after all, it might prove to be their trouble, too.

I have no idea whether this birth mother, if she's still alive, regrets her experience, or ever at any point wished for her unborn child's death. All I can say is that I for one, as part of that child's unforeseen future, am grateful that it didn't happen like that. And however painful that girl's sacrifice, and I don't mean in the least to downplay the fact that this gift of life was a sacrifice, I believe that this was, and is, pleasing to God, who does indeed want such a thing.
7.4.2010 | 5:00pm
pdn Michael says:
Karen (and Richard, for that matter).

A choice is made, by a male and female, to find their way to a compromised (by the steam, girl) situation. A choice is made (at some earlier point) by that be-all and end-all of all choosers, the woman, not to use birth control. A choice is made to disrobe. A choice is made not to use a condom. (Mind you, I'm not advocating for birth control; I merely point out that it is freely available). A choice is made to complete coitus. Both parties have agreed in every choice except perhaps the one involving birth control. That means that, in this broad scenario, seven choices have been made, four by the woman and three by the man. The happy couple thus had seven opportunities to avoid pregnancy, and chose to roll the dice all the same.

What is it, exactly, about abortion which makes it the choice that trumps all other choices? Doing so merely exposes it for what it really is: an "out" to extricate one's self from the consequences of four or five *other* irresponsible choices. Don't blame the pro-life community for trivializing choice!
7.4.2010 | 5:37pm
JOHN WICKEY says:
Karen seems to suggest that the world is holding back women, herself in particular, from accomplishing her potential in life. No one is doing that. I would suggest that our government and society is incouraging women to take every opportunity to advance themselves. Whether that should be otherwise is not of concern to the question of abortion. Suppose she should find herself pregnant and decide to abort the child. What would that do to her emotionally to know that she had participated in the killing of her child. The feeling that she had attached to this unborn baby would leave her depressed and aloof from attachment to future children. How many mothers have been through this path. This is one of the major sources of the shallowness of will in our culture. Let anyone do what they will. Who cares? A society and culture cannot thrive with such attitudes.
7.4.2010 | 6:19pm
Claude says:
It represents progress for the pro-life side that there is seldom an effort to make a positive defense for the right to an abortion. Instead, the argument is that abortion must be OK because pro-lifers are awful people who don't have the proper views on other issues or who need to solve all other problems of suffering and injustice before taking on abortion.
7.4.2010 | 11:04pm
Amazingly, there are signs that the Church itself is coming up with a doctrine that would ALLOW abortion. See my 700-page book draft on this, on Brettongarcia's Blog, Wordpress.
7.5.2010 | 11:08pm
Paul says:
MOGS,

If you say that abortion is sometimes allowable--say in the cases of rape or incest--then you must either hold that the fetus is in fact (and certainly and knowably so) NOT a human person entitled to an inalienable right to life OR that the deliberate taking of innocent human life (the very definition of murder) is sometimes morally permissible. That entails holding that murder is not an intrinsic evil. In fact, you're rhetorical questions commit you the position that if the fetus is in fact a human person, whatever anyone thinks that is, then it is okay to sacrifice some innocent persons for the good of other innocent persons. It is because utilitarianism allows such monstrosities that, since WWII, many moral philosophers have been committed to rejecting it. Are you really willing to allow some innocents to be sacrificed by others on the grounds that the way that they came to be was through violence? Your position suggests that violence by x against y gives y permission to inflict violence against z. The position seems to to entail a non sequitur. But that aside, isn't there something wrong with a society not horrified by such a proposition.
7.6.2010 | 4:09am
Bruce Lewis says:
Karen:

Q. Do pro-lifers celebrate the fact that 60% of college freshman are women, and that women are now half of law and medical students...
A. I don't. Men and women were by and large happier in traditional sexual roles.

Q. What is the official pro-life opinion of Title IX?
A. No such "official opinions" exists. My opinion is that it was a mistake.

Q. Do pro-lifers support parental leave laws?
A. I don't. The employee leave policies of private employers are not an area of legitimate concern for the federal government.

Q. Do pro-lifers provide monetary support to battered women's shelters?
A. We Catholics do.

Q. Do pro-lifers believe that men should be "heads of the family"
A. I do.

Q... or do they believe that women should have an equal voice in the family and the world?
A. Equal voice? Yes. Equal authority, No. But then again, I'm a real, unreconstructed traditionalist Conservative, not a member of the cult of individual liberty.
7.6.2010 | 6:43am
Peter B says:
Looking at the numbers, it seems as though the number of abortions since Roe versus Wade is pretty close to the number of illegal immigrants believed to be in the US. I suspect there's a connection.
On another note, though: Judaism vigorously opposes abortion, but will permit it to protect the mother's life and in some other extreme circumstances. I cannot consider that to be morally inferior to the position that absolutely forbids abortion under any circumstances. I am coming to think that the attempt to establish the absolutist no abortion position may well fall under the rubric of "establishment of religion."
7.6.2010 | 1:23pm
Jim says:
With all due respect Peter, I think that most pro-lifers support tangible actions to stop abortion. This includes the Hyde Amendment and the Human Life Amendments, bills that federalize abortion policy, define the human fetus as a living person, but also make it quite clear that in the event of rape, incest, or the life of the mother than abortion can be legally permissible. Some pro-life activists are absolutists, and this happens to be the Catholic position that abortion is never permissible, but even these absolutists tend to support a reasonable exception for public policy and legality concerns. So I disagree with the notion that pro-lifers are in fact supporting the absolutist position uniformly, similarly even if they did I do not see how such a policy is establishing any kind of particular religion. Is a prohibition against murder establishing religion because the ten commandments include a similar prohibition? I would argue that pro-lifers tend to be more religious than not since their convictions stem from a religiously based appreciation for all human life, but there are non-believing pro-lifers, George Will is one of the more prominent that comes to mind, that sincerely believe that using secular humanistic reasoning that abortion is completely wrong.

That said I think to address the original point of Bottums article, I do believe time is on the side of the pro-life movement. The Democratic Party is slowly realizing that it cannot win working class voters without some kind of religious appeal, including a gradual commitment to pro-life viewpoints. Now the changes to their platform were patently ridiculous and no serious pro-life intellectual could seriously call these changes progress, if anything the platform took one step forward and two steps backward on abortion. That said the party that has consistently been the party of abortion is now slowly retreating from that stance. The Democratic majorities depend on pro-life members. We have seen support for a partial birth ban go from a 'radically right wing position' to becoming the mainstream status quo. We saw widespread bipartisan opposition to reversing the Mexico City policy. Bottum is correct in articulating the accepted fact that most members of my generation (the recent college grads, millenials, etc.) are not happy with the status quo on abortion and the vast majority of us are personally opposed to it and want to see polices that reduce and restrict it. Many of the up and coming leaders of the pro-life movement are coming from my cohort and are tying the issue in with other traditionally progressive oriented youth movements from green movements, social justice movements, anti-war movements, and even gay rights movements. The day when most Americans are pro-life is soon to come to fruition. At that point both parties will be forced to reckon with this emerging and restless majority that will not be silent. The Republicans will have to stop paying lip service to the pro-life cause and actually do substantial things to prove their commitment is to life, and not just the almighty dollar. Similarly Democrats will have to choose between the increasingly out of touch, radical, and extremist abortion and women's groups whom they rely on for financial support, or the concerns of the swing voter whom they rely on for political power. As a party they can always find other sources of cash, they can't give up on voters though. If they want to remain relevant they have to increase their tent as well. Perhaps a bipartisan realignment around life issues is in the works, the demographics tend to support it. While many up thread were complaining about illegal aliens the irony is that when we do become a majority minority country, our democratic rulers will then be blacks and hispanics who are disproportionately pro-life compared to the general population, that combined with my generation and its successors entering politics will enable the emergence of a pro-life majority within my lifetime. That my friends is something to continue to pray for and look forward to.
7.6.2010 | 1:39pm
The main Catholic argument, that ALLOWS abortion, is that the fetus is certainly not a human being or Human person. That argument is from St. Thomas Aquinas; while Aquinas in turn, was following the Bible, following Psalm 139. The argument in both, was that the embryo is not "formed" enough, does not have a body (or later science would specify, a brain), complicated enough to hold a fully human intelligence, spirit, or "soul." Since the embryo is therefore not a human being - since it is lacking a mind or soul - therefore, it is no great sin to terminate it.

This is the real core of Catholic tradition therefore, the tradition of a major saint and doctor of the Church for example (Aquinas; made the chief theologian of the Church in the 1917 Code of Canon Law, 1918 revision; canons 589 & 1366). And it said that abortion might be a minor sin; but it was not as bad as murder, or infanticide.

Confirming this, more recently, in his 2004 memo "Worthiness," Cardinal Ratzinger concluded by saying that a focus on just the abortion issue in elections, may be dis "proportionate" or unbalanced; while voting for pro-abortion political candidates, "can be permitted." Note that this Cardinal Ratzinger is now, note, our pope; Benedict XVI.

The fact is, an objective survey of Catholic Tradition, shows that it does not really support the radical, "one issue" anti-abortionism that so many Catholics now hold.

Ironically, the Pro Life antiabortionism we hear here and from many Catholics elswhere,is not supported by the Bible, by the Church, or by Science; it is in fact simply, a well-intentioned but in the end, extemely destructive heresy. One that throws countless votes to the Republican Party, and causes the gross neglect of "other issues" like Health Care, and avoiding unncessary wars; subjects that were far, far more important to the Bible, and to Jesus himself for example.
7.6.2010 | 3:02pm
Fred says:
BG, So there is a religious case for pornography and the Church allows abortion. Where did you get your theology degree, the University of Bizzaro World?
7.6.2010 | 4:25pm
Jim, I, in keeping with my ancient religious-legal tradition, don't accept the absolutist definition of abortion as murder (though abortion for non-lifesaving purposes is forbidden in that tradition, which certainly considers abortion to be the next thing to murder.) And once the birth process is under way and the baby is entering the world, to kill him or her is certainly murder under that tradition.
The Jewish tradition is so troubled by the competing imperatives of not killing the developing child and saving the mother's life that it categorizes the issue under the laws of self-defense: if the fetus is an active danger to the mother's life, the pregnancy may be terminated by the physician as the mother's agent in defending her own life. (I hope you're not such a "thou shalt not kill" extremist that you oppose killing in self-defense defense; that may be a choice for an individual to make as a matter of religious or spiritual discipline, but it is very dangerous as public policy.)
Again, I submit that for a woman to be forced by the state (as the religious doctrines of some in the pro-life movement would have the law read) to die rather than have the life-saving abortion her religious tradition would permit her, would be the result of that state's having adopted a narrow religious doctrine. And since it would in this terrible situation deny the mother's right to life and right to defend her own life, it would be a big push down a very slippery slope.
Although I suppose it is in keeping with the Green movement's devaluation of human life; be careful of the company you keep, Jim.
7.6.2010 | 10:21pm
Abortion might rank notionally high in the minds of many pro-lifers, but I think that for nearly all it's an issue that is more a badge of identity than an actual program. Consistently on this issue would prove fatal to their cause.

If abortion was outlawed on the grounds that it was murder, the intentional destruction of a human life, then millions of women would have to be brought up on charges of manslaughter, at least, charged as infanticides.

Is this going to happen? Is there a prominent pro-lifer who calls for the prosecution of these women as criminals, as the pro-life interpretation of their fetuses and their acts would seem to require?
7.7.2010 | 12:57am
John Wickey:

"Suppose she should find herself pregnant and decide to abort the child. What would that do to her emotionally to know that she had participated in the killing of her child. The feeling that she had attached to this unborn baby would leave her depressed and aloof from attachment to future children. How many mothers have been through this path."

And how many women who, deciding not to abort the children but instead carry the child to term, go on to resent the pregnancy and the child whether or not they keep it? It doesn't seem at all unlikely that this resentment would also go on to colour the women's perception of motherhood and their children.
7.7.2010 | 9:49am
Karen writes:

"I have never heard anyone from the "pro-life" movement give concrete and specific support to any policy advancing women's rights. Like Mary might be great, but it has absolutely nothing to do with contemporary policy discussions. "

Women have plenty of rights, and politicians love to define new areas in which they are protecting women's rights. Moreover, as Karen noted when she started her post: "Do pro-lifers celebrate the fact that 60% of college freshman are women, and that women are now half of law and medical students...."

In truth, the right of women to vote has proven enough to ensure their equality in American Society. American Society is defined in large measure by two institutions, the marketplace and the Government. As to the marketplace, the proof that women have as many rights as men is found in just about any commercial. Commercials almost always show the adult heterosexual male of the species to be a dolt who just needs to be led around by his spouse or significant other. Another proof, look at the skew of television shows where the adult heterosexual males once more are usually shown to be dolts who need to be led around by their spouse or significant other. Why is that? Not because the creative types are in the vanguard of societal change but because sponsors want to pander to the consumer with the purchasing power.

Likewise, as to Government, politicians assess men's and women's votes the same way: can they be sectioned off (divide et impera) into identifiable groups of victims and then cobbled together with enough other votes so as to make a majority? Since more women than men vote, a majority is more easily put together if women think of themselves not as having the same economic interests as their spouses but as having different interests. Contrast the number of laws named for women victims against those named for male victims: Megan's Law and Amber Alerts come to mind immediately.

The identification of women's interests as opposed to men's can only be done by splitting males from females and getting as many women as possible to think of themselves as put upon by men. Even if they are happily married, politicians who play the victimization angle (which they dress up as Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs) as their route to a majority want women to think of themselves as potentially victims and therefore as in need of solidarity not with their chosen life partner but with their sisters.

None of this is to say that women have not had legitimate complaints about treatment in the past but the passage of womens' suffrage almost certainly has put women on a level playing field with men, if their goal is to be autonomous actors in competition with men.

Of course, to the extent that they look upon the "rights" that the state can guarantee them as of less consequence than what an intact marriage brings, they are likely to view their economic interests as more in alignment with that of their husbands than with a putative sisterhood of people who may wish to take money out of their pockets.

Likewise, when a woman cannot abide the thought of baby killing (and more women than men are pro-life in that regard, I believe), and she comes to recognize that the solidarity she is called upon to have leads to her sanctioning of such killing in the name of sisterhood, she may recognize that the vote she is called upon to place in the name of equality leads to the ultimate form of inequality, the victimizing of babies by their own mothers. When that happens, Democrats do not carry the women's vote.
7.7.2010 | 9:58am
Randy McDonald writes:

"If abortion was outlawed on the grounds that it was murder, the intentional destruction of a human life, then millions of women would have to be brought up on charges of manslaughter, at least, charged as infanticides.

Is this going to happen? Is there a prominent pro-lifer who calls for the prosecution of these women as criminals, as the pro-life interpretation of their fetuses and their acts would seem to require? "

This is a reductio ad absurdum arguement. Tens or even hundreds of thousands of abortions a year allegedly went on before Roe v Wade legalized the slaughter, yet tens of thousands of people did not go to jail for the crime of abortion. Nevertheless, prior to the Supreme Court majority's invention of that right, most legitimate medical care providers did not engage in abortions and many fewer pregnant women sought to have them.
7.7.2010 | 10:02am
MOGS writes:

"Don Roberto. You say "Abortion for any reason is evil." How about the the fetus carried by a 13-year old raped by her father? If you say, "for any reason," you have to be willing to force a 14-year old victim of incest into growing a child. I don't believe God could possibly want such a thing. It is only men who demand that it happen "

This is another effort to divide women of good will from men of good will. Many pro-life women as well as pro-life men oppose any intentional abortions.
7.7.2010 | 2:37pm
Wilbur says:
Patrick:

You are presenting a series of very odd and untenable ideas.

Especially 1) you advance the notion that it is particularly the splitting of women's interests from men's, by way of feminism, that leads to womena's support of abortion. While in fact, often the more pro-abortion member of a male/female pair, is the male; who does not want to support a child.

Next you 2) consider and reject the idea that if abortion is formally declared to be murder, that would logically lead to prosecutions for murder, of tens of millions of women who had abortions. You argue that this never took place in the past, and would not happen after you and your friends take over the government, and make abortion illegal. But the author's point was not so much to assert that a) convictions for murder are likely. As much as b) logically, if you really believe abortion is murder, then the logical corrolary of that would be to prosecute women who had abortions as murderers. And if we haven't done that to date? That suggests the real point here: that those who claim abortion is murder, don't really believe their own claims; since they have not really consistently applied the consequences of their alleged conviction. Those who say abortion is murder are in other words, hypocrites. Indeed, who among you would actually say, trade your own life, one-for-one, or even one for a hundred ... frozen embryos?

Then too Pat, 3) you also simply ignore serious evidence presented above, from both the a) Jewish and b) Catholic traditions (of the Pope; of St. Thomas Aquinas), that the embryo or fetus is not regarded as a human person, by core Catholic traditions; so that the Church has not yet infallibly stated that abortion is murder, at all. Evidence that suggests that your own radically anti-abortion opinions are not approved of by the Church itself.
7.7.2010 | 8:34pm
Wilbur argues my case thusly:

"Especially 1) you advance the notion that it is particularly the splitting of women's interests from men's, by way of feminism, that leads to women's support of abortion. While in fact, often the more pro-abortion member of a male/female pair, is the male; who does not want to support a child."

That is not what I said at all. To the contrary, I posited that women tended to be more pro-life than men.


Wilbur went on:

"Next you 2) consider and reject the idea that if abortion is formally declared to be murder, that would logically lead to prosecutions for murder, of tens of millions of women who had abortions. You argue that this never took place in the past, and would not happen after you and your friends take over the government, and make abortion illegal. But the author's point was not so much to assert that a) convictions for murder are likely. As much as b) logically, if you really believe abortion is murder, then the logical corrolary of that would be to prosecute women who had abortions as murderers. And if we haven't done that to date? That suggests the real point here: that those who claim abortion is murder, don't really believe their own claims; since they have not really consistently applied the consequences of their alleged conviction. "

Prosecutorial discretion is a reality of the limits of the criminal justice system. As a result, prosecutions are rarely undertaken on the basis of "logical corollaries" of abstract legal truths alone. Rather, prosecutors often look to the need for the deterrent effect of prosecutions in deciding how much effort to expend on each type of case. As to Abortion, if declaring the practice criminal results (as it did in the past) in "legitimate" abortionists not engaging in abortions, then the deterrent effect will have largely been achieved. This isn't hypocrisy; it is the reality of governance. Or to phrase it another way, why do you think that the IRS announces some big prosecutions for Income Tax Evasion in the midst of the tax preparation season? The IRS even has a phrase for that: "voluntary compliance." Is the IRS being hypocritical in not pursuing everyone who cheats on their taxes? No, it is just being realistic about its own limitations.
7.8.2010 | 3:03pm
Patrick, abortion--as it's defined by its opponent--isn't a matter of not paying taxes, a civil crime. Abortion is a matter of taking a human life, because the fetus is no less a human being than an infant or any other type of human being. More: abortion is a premeditated act: people don't present themselves for the surgical removal of their fetus or the administration of abortifacient drugs by accident.

If abortion's morally indistinguishable from infanticide, what's the justification for punishing one as a crime and the other not at all?
7.8.2010 | 3:09pm
King says:
Elect Mitch Daniels president.

This is where Mr. Bottum (and Mr. Carter) errs. We come to these fora to defend principles against a culture that does not respect them or their sources ("first things"). Indeed, the entire purpose of this site's "public square" mission is just such a thorough defense. But to apply our purpose to the politician's duty is a category mistake, the mistake of the single-issue "let justice be done though the heavens fall" zealot. Justice is the god of the left. We worship The Good.

We should all be fully on-board with Mitch Daniels's idea of a truce. Gov. Daniels has a conservative temperament, the soul of a fastidious accountant. The destruction of basic governing processes (the economy, the separation of powers) is the proximate catastrophe to be addressed by our practical public servants. Like in total war, they must subsume their pet issues, important though any one of them may be in isolation, until we can afford to bicker again. We are not rich enough to be this stupid. If we want to win the culture we first need a robust presence in the trenches. These are not mutually exclusive aims.

I am first champion of the conservative social issues -- I take a back seat to no one in that regard. I've been called a zealot. I win the intellectual fights more often than I lose them. But such victories of abstraction are distant and irrelevant to the issue at hand. Trade a hundred chastened opponents for one charitable deed, a hundred legislative losses for one influential cultural exemplar.

Fixing the culture is not a task well suited for the realm of politics. Yes, my soul has much to answer for the way my culture disrespects life and God's creation. At the same time -- if not as important -- my country has bills to pay. Let us focus on hiring the competent.

Fix the exchequer, public servants. We freeborn will address our perennial sinfulness without your typically counterproductive meddling. With the culture making its slow turn back, removing political influence becomes a pro-life victory: top-down fiat has unfairly allowed pro-abortionism to maintain its foothold for nearly 40 years. Send a focused caretaker technocrat to office. Elect Daniels president. It will be the most positive development in abortion politics since Roe.

[substantially cross-posted on http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/07/07/the-conservative-case-for-not-calling-libertarian-ideas-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-18882 ]
7.9.2010 | 7:11am
Randy McDonald writes:
"Patrick, abortion--as it's defined by its opponent--isn't a matter of not paying taxes, a civil crime. Abortion is a matter of taking a human life, because the fetus is no less a human being than an infant or any other type of human being. More: abortion is a premeditated act: people don't present themselves for the surgical removal of their fetus or the administration of abortifacient drugs by accident.

If abortion's morally indistinguishable from infanticide, what's the justification for punishing one as a crime and the other not at all? "

You obviously either have my position confused or you do not understand much about prosecutorial discretion. Income tax evasion is not a "civil crime" (whatever that oxymoron is supposed to mean) but a violation of the criminal code. I am recommending that Abortion also be made a violation of the criminal code as it was before. The very act of forbidding the act as a crime will eliminate many practicianers of abortions and then the issue of prsosecutorial conduct will come into question as to how to investigate and prosecute violators.
7.9.2010 | 4:21pm
Wilbur says:
Patrick:

You are being inconsistent, hypocritical, or very Pilate-like: you are setting up a situation, then washing your hands of the consequences. Exactly like Pontius Pilate.

The fact is, if you say abortion is murder, "baby-killing," then 1) logically, you must hold that the same penalities as murder, baby killing, apply. If 2) you do not hold BOTH positions, then you are inconsistent, or hypocritical, or duplicitous.

While 3) indeed, your own inflamatory rhetoric - calling abortion "baby killing" - would likely indeed, encourage lawmakers to enact severe pentalities, for millions of women.

The fact that you are edging away from accepting the consequences of defining abortion as "murder" or "baby killing," sending women to jail for life, proves that deep down, you don't really believe, what you claim to believe.

You are inconsistent; you are "double-tongued," or hypocritical. But that should surprise no one, of a follower of St. Peter; the Apostle St. Paul himself called St. Peter/"Cephas," a "hypocrit" (John 1.42 & Gal. 2.11-14 ff).

Define the crime; accept the time. Or even, capital punishment for millions of women?

Or else, stop calling abortion "baby killing" or murder; since you clearly don't really believe that yourself; because you are unable to face the consequences of your own actions and words.
7.9.2010 | 8:52pm
A fair point about civil crime; my bad.

Should people who practice abortions and the women who hire them be prosecuted on charges like murder and manslaughter? If there's no difference between the fetus and the infant, what reason would there be to distinguish between the two in criminal law?
7.10.2010 | 6:07pm
Even though I had repeatedly noted that it is prosecutors (i.e., politicians) who will be making the decisions on who gets prosecuted in the event the Abortion law goes back to its near universal status ante Roe (i.e., as a violation of the criminal law), Randy McDonald insists on posing the question again and as an issue of abstract morality ("should") and/or pristine civics:

"Should people who practice abortions and the women who hire them be prosecuted on charges like murder and manslaughter? If there's no difference between the fetus and the infant, what reason would there be to distinguish between the two in criminal law? "
Once again, I shall try to inject a little reality into this too abstract discussion. Were I the prosecutor (although I gave up that work some 32 years ago) and the law was with me, I'd go after the abortionist and probably give most mothers a pass, except in an especially egregious situation. The simple truth is that there are a lot more women who have had problem pregnancies and at least considered abortion than there are abortionists, so I would have a harder time getting a jury venire that would act on the law without regard to the sympathy some of them might feel for a defendant mother than I would in going against an abortionist. Thus, going after the abortionist is a lot more likely to be productive of a conviction.

As to what reason would there be to distinguish between a fetus and an infant, the fact is that this culture of ours has long distinguished between the two and (for the last 37+ years) even permitted the slaughter of babes in the womb so long as the doctor does the butchery while the baby remains in the womb (although some probably cheat even on that requirement). Even when Abortion was criminal, it was treated in most states as a separate crime from manslaughter. Were we to go back to the ante-Roe status, the reality would remain that any jury panel would have the "racial memory" that a fetus is not as protected as a born baby for many years (certainly for my expected life remaining) and as the prosecutor elected by Randy McDonald, I would not be looking to take on quixotic prosecutions.

Even a prosecution against an abortionist would have to be undertaken with care. I would really prefer going after someone who did Partial Birth Abortions for the first case. Such a defendant would be easiest to portray as a blood-thirsty killer. They slice and dice viable babies whohave the misfortune of being on the wrong side of the womb line erected by judges in the past. That is the kind of defendant to pick for the first few prosecutions.

This is what I would do if I were the prosecutor, and remember that I am fully on board with the Pro-Life view. A less committed prosecutor might look for more questionable ways to get out of doing his "duty." But that has been the case in Government since before Jesus even walked this Earth.
7.10.2010 | 6:25pm
Wilbur argues in response to me:

"You are being inconsistent, hypocritical, or very Pilate-like: you are setting up a situation, then washing your hands of the consequences. Exactly like Pontius Pilate. The fact is, if you say abortion is murder, "baby-killing," then 1) logically, you must hold that the same penalities as murder, baby killing, apply. If 2) you do not hold BOTH positions, then you are inconsistent, or hypocritical, or duplicitous."

Wilbur, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but American Law is not made in some Athenian Academy where the good, the true and the beautiful are determined by the Socratic Method. The law in America is made by sausage-makers. While I believe that Abortion is baby-killing and will call it that public debate on the issue is not likely to get far if we hang up on the question. You are so obviously offended at my use of the term that you are sitting there petulantly saying: well if you believe that you must insist on the same penalties for Abortion as for murder. Why?

Pre-Roe, the intentional killing of babies in the womb was not considered to be murder under the criminal codes of most states, so why now that we have had 37+ years of the Roe Regime, should we insist on going beyond what was the Law pre-Roe? I would be very happy if the states were allowed to pass restrictions on Abortion that were equivalent to those in place pre-Roe even if that means that Abortion is a crime punishable by less imprisonment than Murder.

I think I understand what is really going on here. You would like to parry the clear moral distaste most people have for baby-killing by ignoring the question of whether Abortion is baby-killing and insisting instead that if it were baby-killing, proponents of that view must insist on a charge of Murder. So, I shall parry right back: answer why the slaughter of babes in their mother's wombs is not baby-killing?
7.10.2010 | 11:21pm
Wilbur says:
Patrick et alia:

1) Killing embryos is not killing a "baby," it is not "murder" of a human being, because, as many philosophers have said, and as Ps. 139 said, the embryo is not really very "formed"or complete in the womb, to be a human being. More specifically, as St. Thomas Aquinas later added, and as science now confirms, it does not have a big enough brain - to sustain a mind, or spirit, or "Soul."

Since the embryo does not have the thing that makes us human - a developed human mind or spirit - the embryo is not a real human being; "child" or "adult." And killing it does not kill a "baby" or human person at all.

Calling abortion "murder" therefore is inflamatory and wrong.

And, not being murder, the penalty for Abortion, if any, should be very very small.


2) Patrick and many anti-abortionists, at first present themselves as moral, Ethical thinker. The antiabortionist at first advances, as an apparent Moral Principle, the assertion that abortion is murder. But then, the extreme practical consequences, of his extreme idea, are pointed out to him: if abortion is murder, then the women who get abortions, are murderers. And therefore, the tens of millions of American women, who got abortions, should be sent to prison for life; or even executed. As murderers.

No doubt, the extreme nature of anti-abortion thinking, became evident to Pro Life antiabortionists like Pat, when they considered the disastrous logical entailment, when they considered what follows, when people accept their characterization of abortion as "baby killing" or "murder" of a human being: if abortion is murder, then women who have abortions should be jailed as murderers.

That is a hard conclusion to sell. So then suddenly, after vociferously calling abortion "murder," suddenly antiabortionist fanatics like Pat, like Father Frank Pavone, and EWTN/RN staffers and guests, suddenly try to back away from their extreme position; from its extreme consequences. Suggesting that women who had abortions would not, say, be executed for murder. Even though they had committed murder.

Here though, antiabortionists are clearly inconsistent.

And so, next, to try to evade charges of hypocrisy and logical inconsistency (and even vicious blood lust)? Antiabortionists like Pat next imply that they do not ask for the death penalty for women, or other penalties commensurate with a murder conviction - because, they say, they have to make compromises with the legal system; which would not not require or allow such penalties.

But here note, that though our anti-abortionist, "Pat," presents himself as a Moral or Ethical or Christian thinker, here, suddenly, inconsistent with his presentation of himself, he abandons his moral Principal.

Logically, ethically, if abortion IS murder, "baby killing," then the same penalties that apply to murderers, should be applied to women here, too. BUt rather than stand on Principle, now suddenly Pat totally abandons moral principle,and moral thinking. Instead, he suddenly shifts to, invokes, mere Political or Realpolitik, reasons: he will not apply penalties consistent with a murder charge in the end .. because it is not politically convenient to impose the death penalty on women; for that political, contingent reason, he abstains from jailing or executing lots of women.

But here is another indication of Pat's inconsistency and hypocrisy, as a Moral Thinker: when does a Moral thinker, suddenly give up Moral reasoning, logic ... to suddenly make political concessions to an evil world?

Pat at first presents himself as operating out of Moral Principle; but then, when the entailments of his line of thinking prove suddenly unpalatable, then suddenly he shows his true colors; he abandons Moral Principal suddenly, and invokes, of all things, politics, even Realpolitik, as the reason for his actions. Thus however, Pat shows himself as having been a false moralist; as having been actually, all alone, a secular, political strategist.

Here finally, with this sudden, inconsistent reversal, the "Conservative," allegedly Catholic, Christian, Moral antiabortionist, shows his true colors at last. Showing that he was never thinking morally at all; since he is all too willing to dump his allegedly moral reasoning, his Moral Principle, when it is inconvenient. Dumping the pretense of Ethical thought, the antiabortionist begins to clear reveal that his real reasons, are not based on Morality, or consistent logical though; but on political thinking.

Finally, the alleged "Catholic" conservative, reveals his true colors in the end: he is not the Moral or religious thinker he pretends to be; but is just another sly politician, trying to pass for one. Just another right-wing politician, trying to use Morality as a front, for his own political opinions. Just another "wolf" or exploitative Right-Wing political opportunist, posing in religious garb, or "sheep's clothing."

So clearly Patrick, you are in yet another way, a hypocrite. In this case, you are not really what you pretend to be. You are one of the foretold "wolves in sheep's clothing"; a politician in the guise of a moral, religious thinker.

Finally, to remain in the moral genre, you would need to stand on Principle; and not beg off the ugly consequences for your reckless, rash cries of "murder," for merely contingent, pragmatic, politic, "worldly" reasons.

To really stand on principle, Pat, to be a really Moral thinker, finally, you really do need to answer Randy McDonald's pressing, cogent query. And answer it in a way consistent with the Principle you claim. Answering this question:


"Should people who practice abortions and the women who hire them be prosecuted on charges like murder and manslaughter? If there's no difference between the fetus and the infant, what reason would there be to distinguish between the two in criminal law?"


How do you defend, ON MORAL (not legalistic) PRINCIPLE, the failure to prosecute women who have had abortions? If you call them "baby-killers" and "murderers," then finally, logically, if you are acting inconsistently, on principle.

You are proving yourself to be insincere, hypocritical, not a moral thinker, to be an irresponsible inventor of irresponsible phrases, if on the one hand, you insist that abortion is "murder" or "baby killing" - but then you do not explicitly advocate penalties commensurate with, proportionate to, the crime that you at times assert - with your cry of "murder" - has been committed there.

Indeed, even the law does not call abortion "murder" at present; nor should it ever.
7.11.2010 | 8:09pm
Wilbur argues:
"1) Killing embryos is not killing a "baby," it is not "murder" of a human being, because, as many philosophers have said, and as Ps. 139 said, the embryo is not really very "formed"or complete in the womb, to be a human being. More specifically, as St. Thomas Aquinas later added, and as science now confirms, it does not have a big enough brain - to sustain a mind, or spirit, or "Soul."

Since the embryo does not have the thing that makes us human - a developed human mind or spirit - the embryo is not a real human being; "child" or "adult." And killing it does not kill a "baby" or human person at all.


Even if one assumes that Psalm 139 and Aquinas's writings really support Wilbur's claim (and I dispute that assumption for the reasons noted below), the fact remains that neither David nor Thomas Aquinas had the advantage of seeing a sonogram. Neither did the purposely ignorant folks who gave us Roe v Wade, which was premised on the parlous claim that we didn't know when life began.

Well, now that we have sonograms, we know when life begins: at conception. Sonograms prove taht what is in the mother's womb is a little baby (at first) growing to be a very big baby by the time that delivery is completed. That is why the support for murder of babes in their mothers' wombs is dropping off.

Most Americans today recognize that those are babies in the mother's wombs. Passage out of the mother's womb does not affect a change in the nature of the being that had been in the mother's womb for 9 months. If it is a baby when it comes out of the mother's womb, it was a baby before it came out. Except in the mind of those who would wage war on such helpless creatures. They look for a distinction: "that is no baby; that is a fetus." Yet it is a distinction only a lawyer can stomach.

As to Aquinas's position on abortion, he opposed all abortions in his Commentary on Sentences. He did draw a distinction between babies of less than 40 days and those with more than 40 days life in their mother's wombs, but he still considered an abortion of a babe less than 40 days old to be a grave sin.

As to Psalm 139, it reads in pertinent part: " For it was you who formed my inward parts; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; that I know very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes beheld my unformed substance. In your book were written all the days that were formed for me, when none of them as yet existed. "

How that undercuts the proposition that life begins at conception is beyond me. An argument could be made that the "unformed" state was the state the babe was in prior to the union of the sperm and ovum. Once the two joined together, the book of life (now known as DNA) called for all the ddays that aere formed for us.

Wilbur goes on and once more tries to get me to buy into the prosecution of tens of millions of women for murder! Wilbur claims that the logical consequence of calling the aborted baby human is to condemn tens of millions of women : "And therefore, the tens of millions of American women, who got abortions, should be sent to prison for life; or even executed. As murderers.
Calling abortion "murder" therefore is inflamatory and wrong."

Once again I decline to do so. Prior to 1973, there weren't millions of prosecutions for Murder. Abortion was considered to be a lesser offense than Murder in the First Degree. For all the reasons previously discussed, I see no reason for us as this date to impose larger penalties than were assessed pre-Roe. The need is to stop the killing and a return to the status quo ante-Roe would result in the saving of the lives of millions of babies in their mother's wombs. That to me is all I would ask for. I will not be distracted from accomplishment of the possible by Wilbur's transparent effort to protect the slaughter of the innocent by a theoretical diversion that is important only to him.
7.12.2010 | 7:37am
Wilbur says:
1) The Bible more properly said that the embryo in the womb, was only in the process of BEING "knit" or "formjed"; that is, what we have in the womb, is not YET a formed human being. What we have is more like a pile of lumber, that is being made into - but is not yet - a house

2) Antiabortionists often assert that with ultrasound, " Science" "proves" the embryo is a human being. But this is a bad, biased reading of science. Sonograms "prove" nothing scientifically. The fact is, the key thing that makes us human, is our mind or spirit or "soul"; which is INVISIBLE. While new science suggests (as per Brettongarcia, below) that that mind, the spirit, does not occur in the body you see, until about the time of birth. Which psychological testing proves. Scientists in the meantime regard the embryo as an "embryo," a "fetus," not as a human being.

3) I am glad you now decline to call abortion "murder."

4) Still, many use this word, "murder"; which even you, a lawyer, now agree, is misleading or impolitic. Or even incendiary. In fact, at about the time that various anti-abortion fanatics like Fr. Frank Pavone, began calling it murder, one listener evidently agreed - and decided in May 31, 2009, that he was therefore justified in assassinating an abortion doctor, Dr. Tiller. Pavone and others had entertained the argument that a) abortion was muder; and b) therefore, killing a murderer - an abortion doctor - was justified. So that the incendiary rhetoric of the anti-abortion movement, lead finally to anti-abortion terrorism, and actual murder.

This is not a mere semantic excecise therefore; this clarification is extemely important. The mischaracterization of abortion as "murder," has lead to anti-abortion terrorism.

5) And it has lead thousands of mislead Catholic activists, to insist that we must vote Pro Life, anti-abortion - which meant, vote Republican - in every election.

And this effort in fact, elected one Republican after another to office, c. 1980-2008. But Republicans were "good" on the "one issue" of abortion; but bad on other KEY CHRISTIAN ISSUES: things like a) avoiding unnecessary wars. Or b) supporting health care.

Mindful of such gross errors in the anti-aboriton movement, Cardinal Ratzinger of the Vatican - who is now Our Holy Father, Benedict XVI, warned that we should not focus too much, dis "proportionately," on just one issue in voting; his 2004 memo told us that voting for Pro Choice candidates "can be permitted" ("Worthiness," 2004 memo). This warning was confirmed c. 2007, by Cardinal McCarrick, former head of the USCCB; who confirmed that the Church was not telling us how to vote; but that we should not focus on one "issue" in voting.

Yet all these major pillars of the Catholic Tradition - St. Thomas Aquinas; Cardinals Ratzinger and McCarrick; the Pope - and their warnings about "one issue" antiabortionism, have been ignored, by rabid anti-aboritionists. Who all but successfully blocked in fact, the other issue of Health Care, at the end of 2009. Even though healing the sick, was mentioned hundreds of times in the Bible, and was one of Jesus' major issues, Pro Life Catholics worked against that issue c. 2009. Because of their monomanical, demoniacally obsessed, narrow fixation, with the "one issue" of abortion.

Which does not even kill a human being after all. While anti-abortionists' neglect of health care,avoiding unnecessary wars, proveably kills millions.

By the way, Brettongarcia's Blog@Wordpress, contains a 700 page rough draft, of a book outlining more than 100 arguments against Catholic anti-abortionism. Proving that the radical Pro Life position that most Catholics think is supported by the Church is actually, simply, a new, modern heresy.

But obviously, the historical death of hundreds of millions of human beings, by plagues, disease, lack of health care, and unnecessary wars, as spoken of in the Bible itself, is of no concern at all to Pat; who must sacrifice hundreds of millions of lives, to a bit of as-yet-not-human DNA, in the womb. In the perverse heresy, of Pro Life anti-abortionism.

Patrick: do you support anti abortionists' terrorism? Killing abortion doctors? Or letting millions of human beings die, through lack of attention to other, more important issues in life?

Do you support anti-abortionists continuing to defy the saints? Defying the Pope?

Why shouldn't we just call you and other anti-abortionists, simply a new, deadly kind of heretic? A heretic who THINKS he is following God, but who is mistaken.
7.12.2010 | 11:07pm
Wilbur tries to put words in my mouth here:
"I am glad you now decline to call abortion "murder." Still, many use this word, "murder"; which even you, a lawyer, now agree, is misleading or impolitic. "

I did not decline to call abortion murder. What I said was that I would not push to have Abortion defined as Murder under the Criminal Law. If one uses the dictionary definition of murder (as opposed to the statutory definition), though, most abortions could be characterized as murder if abortion were once again unlawful because they would constitute: "killing (a human being) unlawfully and with premeditated malice."

Yet, as a former prosecutor I am full well aware that the Law often divides the crime of murder into a whole set of degrees and subordinate offenses. I do not believe that the crime of abortion needs to be defined as "Murder in the First Degree" under the criminal law of the states to be stopped (in large measure) by criminalization. One of the things that disgusts me about our present criminal law (in New York) is that the intentional and premeditated killing of a human being is not considered "Murder int he First Degree." Rather, it is Murder in the Second Degree unless the dead human being is a police officer or prison guard. This is what happens when the State starts creating distinctions among corpses. But I digress.

CHARACTERIZNING ABORTIONS AS MURDER UNDER THE CRIMINAL CODE IS NOT NECESSARY. Going back to the law pre-Roe is all that needs be done; ABORTION JUST NEEDS TO BE DEFINED AS A FELONY. In fact, the whole thing with "malice aforethought" just complicates the otherwise easy prosecution of doctors who slice and dice babies up in their mother's womb. I would nevertheless want the crime of Abortion to be a felony so it would be easy to get the doctor's medical license revoked, but that is probably all that would need to be done to get most doctors out of the business of abortion butchery. That is what I am really after.
10.16.2010 | 1:33pm
"Your side in [sic] on this issue believes women are walking wombs, with no minds or dreams or thoughts worth pursing [sic]. We exist solely and exclusively to provide males with doormats and punching bags. When the Catholic church and "pro-lifers" start supporting women in participating in society as full participants, then you might get more support for forced pregnancy." Mindful of such gross errors in the anti-aboriton movement, Cardinal Ratzinger of the Vatican - who is now Our Holy Father, Benedict XVI, warned that we should not focus too much, dis "proportionately," on just one issue in voting; his 2004 memo told us that voting for Pro Choice candidates "can be permitted" ("Worthiness," 2004 memo). This warning was confirmed c. 2007, by Cardinal McCarrick, former head of the USCCB; who confirmed that the Church was not telling us how to vote; but that we should not focus on one "issue" in voting.
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