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Deciding Not to Decide What Marriage Is

Arguments over same-sex marriage and other challenges to conjugal tradition have brought into stark relief our degraded ability to describe the realities of family and the marriage culture.

Legal reformations of marriage such as no-fault divorce, for instance, have crippled discourse by redirecting the recognized purpose of marriage away from the family as a unit, and toward the accommodation of the desires of individual adults. Arguments proffered by today’s supposed marriage gurus increasingly define “successful” marriages as those in which adults report satisfactory levels of emotional fulfillment. It follows that children have been given a lower priority in marriage disputes.

This refocusing gives rise to claims such as “Love makes a marriage,” once heard in divorce courts (as an explanation) and now heard (as an argument) in same-sex marriage debates. While love certainly sustains a good marriage, civil authorities are, as yet, uninterested in inquiring about this and other private purposes of marriage. As suggested by the use of this idea by same-sex marriage lobbyists, who trumpet marriage’s private purposes over its public aims, our society is fortunate that the state is uninterested, but that is no guarantee it will not be in the future.

With the reshaping of families through divorce and the prospects of gender-neutral parenting in same-sex marriages, love and emotional fulfillment have—at least in the popular imagination—moved perilously close to gaining status as the kind of things civil law takes interest in—rights, and not mere interests. As Ronald Dworkin has often quipped, “rights are trumps”, and while the state may encourage marital virtues such as affection and exclusivity, rights are, on the other hand, subjects of enforcement.

Something of an exposition of the attitude that love makes a marriage took shape in a New York Times “Weddings/Celebrations” column the week before Christmas. Carol Anne Riddell and John Partilla, both married, Upper West Side professionals, met each other through their children’s kindergarten and, struggling with increasing mutual attraction, exercised their emotional rights as trumps indeed, and so crassly as to make clandestine affairs look prudent.

As Riddell and Partilla explained, their choice was fixed: They could either give in to their feelings for each other, or suppress them and live dishonestly. Further moral confusion seemed evident, with Riddell feigning a crisis of conscience: “Why am I being punished? Why did someone throw him in my path when I can’t have him?” The two soon abandoned their spouses and children and married each other, hoping, apparently, for the best.

To be sure, the couple’s alleged decision between adultery and dishonesty was a false one, and their reasoning solipsistic. But what if their story is not just an anomaly? What if our culture’s emphasis on personal satisfaction in marriage helped tip their mental scales in favor of adultery and against the needs of their children for stability and parents with imitable marital commitment?

Is our divorce culture and the impulse behind redefining marriage a sufficient explanation for this behavior? No. But they do encourage people like Riddell and Partilla, while traditional marriage doesn’t.

If emotional fulfillment is a right, we ought not to allow anything to obstruct it, even moral principles—or vows. The moral drama the Times put on display is the product of a culture that doesn’t know how to articulate what marriage is, and is therefore not equipped to comprehend, much less live out, marital necessities such as self-sacrifice, or even postponement of gratification.

Many, for instance, can hardly imagine why a man might freely choose to become a monk, forgoing spouse and family. And yet those who are horrified at the life of a monk should be horrified at marriage, for while the monk gives up all the women in the world, the married man also gives up every woman in the world, save one. That is the kind of love marriage demands–not the kind the Times celebrates in stories like the “Weddings/Celebrations” column.

Perhaps this depleted idea of love is why many—even while praising marriage’s messianic role for same-sex couples—have abandoned marriage altogether without abandoning some hope for some relationship like marriage, but less binding. In France, for example, a 1999 civil union law intended to accommodate gay relationships has been opted into mostly by heterosexual couples, desiring the law’s minimalist and easily frangible civil commitment.

Still more concerning is the apparent disintegration of what might be called our “marriage conscience.” What sort of thing doesn’t merely counter, but offends our concept of marriage? Are there any acts we believe we cannot do because they would harm our marriages? Is there nothing in marriage that cannot be trumped by the demand for emotional fulfillment?

As political scientist Matthew J. Franck observed on Wednesday at Public Discourse, revelations about Columbia professor David Epstein’s incestuous tryst with his daughter left pundits of all affiliations at a loss for ethical arguments against incest. Sure, there were the usual, tin-eared utilitarian arguments against it, citing birth defects and the evolutionary psychology of disgust, but few mentioned incest’s offense to the human good of marriage or friendship. Even if we haven’t lost our marriage conscience, we’ve certainly allowed it to depart from the common language of our culture’s public discourse.

If against even the universal taboos against incest, the appeal to emotional fulfillment and “love” has become a powerful argument, how can marriage survive? After leaving his wife and three children for Riddell, John Partilla poignantly remarked, “I did a terrible thing as honorably as I could.” As though boldly acknowledging one’s error somehow makes it more palatable, his strange attitude of reluctance was tempered by his fear that adultery was inevitable, and therefore not worth avoiding with moral courage.

It’s hard not to discern the moral tragedy of a society that has lost its marriage conscience, given just how frequently the Riddell-Partilla account plays out every day, though in less sensational ways. But greater, it seems, is the moral tragedy of a generation that sees what that loss means, and just might not attempt marriage at all, instead seeking arrangements that mimic marriage’s perks without demanding its commitment. And one of those arrangements is, unfortunately, marriages that can be easily dissolved.

Liberals have taken great advantage of this loss of hope, hotwiring the already weakened civil institution of marriage for use as a vehicle for social change, besides sharing something like John Partilla’s sense of inevitability. Change in marriage is coming, they say, so we ought to accept it uncritically or risk falling on history’s dark side. Many conservatives have also lost hope in marriage, perhaps yielding to defeatism or scarce moral courage. People, they insist, deserve to be happy, and any restrictive idea of marriage cannot be allowed to get in their way.

The inevitability of marriage’s decline—or of John Partilla and Carol Anne Riddell’s free decision to abandon their families for a love interest they felt they should not resist—is as culturally invidious as it is philosophically fallacious. But hope and moral courage toward marriage are not the sort of virtues the culture encourages when its public discussion of marriage is colored by this politically expedient despair, and the blind and self-serving belief that being happy is the only thing that matters.

Kevin Staley-Joyce is an assistant editor at First Things.

RESOURCES:

Devan Sipher’s “Carol Anne Riddell and John Partilla” from The New York Times.

Matthew J. Franck’s “Incest and the Degradation of Our Vocabulary” from Public Discourse.

Scott Sayare and Maia De La Baume’s “In France, Civil Unions Gain Favor Over Marriage” from The New York Times.

Comments:

1.7.2011 | 9:55am
A newspaper Sunday essay, one I have never forgotten, described the horror and contempt with which a young Russian man regarded his "teachers" of the Stalinist era. This "enlightenment" occurred when he realized that he had been deprived of certain facts about reality - that he had been allowed access to a carefully constructed narrative but never the whole truth of things.

In other words, his thinking had been manipulated in the service of an ideology; he had no access to all arguments in favor of or against certain issues and was rendered incapable of making reasoned decisions.

It is possible that those who have been taught that solemn vows, even one's status as mother or father of children, must yield to romantic attraction will one day regard those who encouraged them to think this right with the same contempt as the young Russian man felt for those who had withheld the knowledge he needed to make reasoned, moral decisions.
1.7.2011 | 11:09am
Artaban says:
Funny how so many who cheat absolve themselves when they are the initiators, but are wounded and decry the same behavior when it's the other person who cheats on them. Of course, it should be little surprise that those who've let their passions master them should fail to recognize the universality of wounded emotions in victims as evidence of an objective moral standard.

It is perhaps easiest to lie to ourselves.
1.7.2011 | 11:27am
CKG says:
I find it fascinating that, in the NYT article, the thoughts of the 'abandoned exes' are nowhere to be found. . .
1.7.2011 | 1:18pm
The Moz says:
How many Hollywood marriages end in divorce? How long before this couple divorces, again? If we reduce everything to its lowest common denominator we will end up with nothing worth saving. Unfortunately, the liberal elites, for all their platitudes, continue to ignore the effects of their policies on our societies most vulnerable members and incidentally the very people who their policies are meant to empower: POOR PEOPLE! Even if the State legalised incestuous marriage, I suspect that most upper middle-class people such as the people contributing to this magazine would not do it and would know better. So who would we end up tracking and testing and writing up in the journals of sociology in forty years wondering where things went so terribley wrong for vast segments of our socieity? Poor people. You can say that I am not getting at the whole truth but you can not say that I am not telling the truth.
1.7.2011 | 1:23pm
Jane says:
The NYTimes' happy couple are like a lowbrow version of Antonia Fraser and Harold Pinter. It all seems more palatable in a situation of titanic talent and upperclass British reserve. But overall, such situations are ultimately sad.
1.7.2011 | 1:44pm
CKG says:
And of course, The Moz touches on a very good point: the Riddell-Partillas have undermined their own union even before it starts - until one of their hearts goes all-aflutter for someone else. . .

What the 'cultural elites' can (somewhat) absorb because of their wealth, is deadly for the non-elites. . .
1.7.2011 | 2:38pm
The Moz says:
Yes, I want to clarify that I don't mean that changes to our core definitions don't affect liberal elites, but as CKG has pointed out, liberal elites because of their wealth are better able to absorb the blow while non-elites generally haven't the slightest idea of what hit them in the first place.
BTW, Elton John and his partner have just announced the purchase of a baby boy in California. The couple paid $100,000 pounds for the child who was born to a surrogate implanted with John's partner's sperm and an anonymous donors egg. Oh and to top it all off John has just announded a 26 show tour of Europe. Children are not commodities or are they? Is human genetic material just that, material? What should be the relationship between mothers and fathers and their offspring? Elton John is 62 and his partner is 48. God help us.
1.7.2011 | 3:24pm
There is the irony that had they not married and had children in kindergarten, they would not have met. Odd way for "someone to throw him in my path." And as for live dishonestly, that is exactly backward. Every married person knows that at some point over the decades of marriage, both oneself and one's spouse will be tempted by another. Suppressing the discussion (and certainly the act!) is not dishonesty, but mere kindness, politeness, and honor.

Unless of course one's feelings are the most important force in the universe, I suppose.

As usual, CS Lewis was on this decades ago, in his God In The Dock essay "We Have No 'Right To Happiness.'"

"At first this sounds to me as odd as a right to good luck. For I believe–whatever one school of moralists may say—that we depend for a very great deal of our happiness or misery on circumstances outside all human control. A right to happiness doesn’t, for me, make much more sense than a right to be six feet tall, or to have a millionaire for your father, or to get good weather whenever you want to have a picnic….

The real situation is skillfully concealed by saying that the question of Mr. A.’s “right” to desert his wife is one of “sexual morality.” Robbing an orchard is not an offense against some special morality called “fruit morality.” It is an offense against honesty. Mr. A.’s action is an offense against good faith (to solemn promises), against gratitude (toward one to whom he was deeply indebted) and against common humanity.

Our sexual impulses are thus being put in a position of preposterous privilege. The sexual motive is taken to condone all sorts of behavior which, if it had any other end in view, would be condemned as merciless, treacherous and unjust…"
1.7.2011 | 3:30pm
Moz writes:

"Elton John and his partner have just announced the purchase of a baby boy in California. The couple paid $100,000 pounds for the child who was born to a surrogate implanted with John's partner's sperm and an anonymous donors egg. Oh and to top it all off John has just announded a 26 show tour of Europe. Children are not commodities or are they? Is human genetic material just that, material? What should be the relationship between mothers and fathers and their offspring? "

As Moz recognizes, there are important real world differences between homosexual amd heterosexual congress. Birds and Bees 101: no matter where/how one male couples with another male, or how one female "joins" with another, children cannot be created. So even if Elton John is married to his spouse in the view of that District Court in CA, the purchased child is NOT a product of their "union."

Traditional marriage results in the creation of children from the coupling of most men and women of child-bearing age, ceteris paribus. "Wedlock" in that case ensures that a child produced by the female partner is the man's child. And the law for hundreds of years has had a presumption of legitimacy for any children born of a woman in wedlock. that presumption is one of the keystones on which a stable civilization has arisen. That presumption makes no sense if two homosexuals "marry," however.

If two males in a purported "gay marriage" seek to have natural children, the siring spouse (John's partner in this case) must either depart from sexual fidelity to his "spouse" (Elton) and couple with a female or somehow artificially export his genetic material and have it introduced into the hired woman's embryo outside the bounds of the purported wedlock. Indeed, if the law is going to enter into any presumption with respect to the children of one homosexual spouse, it necessarily would be that the other spouse is NOT the other parent. So: for heterosexual marriages there needs to be a presumption of legitimacy while for homosexual marriages, there needs to be a presumption of illegitimacy.

MORAL? Despite the machinations of the courts and doubletalking politicians (such as Joe Biden), one cannot make a silk purse....
1.7.2011 | 4:43pm
This is an excellent article. Very well done. The idea of the "inevitability" of marriage 'evolution' is horrifyingly rampant; and the problem seems to be precisely that revisionists fail to realize that the worldview they hold is simply that -- a worldview -- and not a set of ideas that ought to be taken as fact.

For those interested, check out this related article at Ethika Politika: "How Does (My) Gay Marriage Affect You?" (http://www.cfmpl.org/blog/2011/01/06/how-does-my-gay-marriage-affect-you/)
1.7.2011 | 4:52pm
CKG says:
Just as a footnote: I purposefully avoided the modifier 'liberal' when referring to 'cultural elites'. Alas, there is no shortage of very public examples of sexual misbehavior to be found on either end of the political spectrum (or, for that matter, anywhere in between). . .
1.7.2011 | 5:28pm
Paul says:
CKG:

I would argue that all "mainstream" cultural elites in the West are liberal, when one considers that liberalism progressed from the revolution of 1776 to those of 1789 and 1848. The differences are in degrees and emphases, not fundamentals.
1.7.2011 | 5:43pm
"Then on Dec. 11, Ms. Riddell donned a Nicole Miller strapless gown for a small ceremony in the presidential suite of the Mandarin Oriental New York hotel."

You sir do not understand the new morality! Any occasion in which love is made manifest, messy yes, but manifest? Oh yes indeed, and a Nicole Miller strapless gown is required is beyond reproach. What a cad you are for writing about this and not even mentioning the gown! There are absolutes, you know?!
1.7.2011 | 9:05pm
W E Lang says:
When I had read this article I thought of the words of Jesus "A man shall leave his parents and join with his wife".
Two points are evident.
One is that marriage was created by God to be the model for societal order. When this model is broken then society as a whole suffers. The glorification of this act of destruction by the Times is indicative of the decline of American Social order. It also brings to light the greater moral dilemna seen in the Book of Judges, "Every man did that which was right in his own eyes". Can judgment not be far away.
Secondly I feel that part of the problem stems from the Protestant Churches unwillingness to recognize the sacred of marriage by making it a sacrament. Granted the sacrament has not deterred some Catholics but I think the teaching needs a rightful place in Protestantism.
1.7.2011 | 9:51pm
The past provides little insight regarding the consequences of sexual libertinism having advanced as far as it has today. We may be in unchartered territory: Homosexual behavior endorsed via government-issued 'civil union' licensing; world leaders helping to advance homosexual 'marriage' as if they were champions of human evolution. Educators presenting schoolchildren with views intended not only to normalize pre-marital sex, homosexual/bisexual acts, and transgenderism, but that offer instruction on the ways to undertake in these behaviors. Pornography saturating culture to a degree never experienced in human history---supporting enterprises trafficking women and children throughout the globe in order to perform sex acts for others' pleasure and profit. Ubiquitous contraceptive advertisement, found on web sites and within email programs. Erectile dysfunction pills marketed like they were shaving cream. Abortion covered by health insurers as just another medical procedure. STDs. Ovarian and breast cancer. AIDS. Scientists, philosophers, and theologians commandeering genetics, ethics, and compassion in order to try to defend licentiousness without having the biological, metaphysical, and pastoral grounds for doing so…

…and this is nothing more than forsaking the responsibility of curbing the sexual appetite.
1.7.2011 | 10:15pm
Those who want to radically change the institution of marriage are seizing upon the crisis you describe. God ordained marriage for human good based on male and female. This is God’s context for bearing and raising children. In a fallen world, the ideal will not be fully realized, and this is why I invest large amounts of time building strong marriages and homes. When I am drawn aside to speak about gay marriage, the same desire to protect the family motivates me.

Particularly troublesome regarding national focus on gay marriage has been the manipulation of words to promote a radical redefinition of family. Here are what I see as seven deceptive distortions of truth used to change the way the public thinks.

1. Using the language of civil rights: For several decades we’ve heard increased association of gay rights with battles for racial and gender equality. We’ve been told that a desire for homosexual sex is an inborn condition, not a choice. Although a false comparison, the aim is to view gays and lesbians as Asians and African Americans or men and women. Intense efforts have been made to associate opposition to gay marriage with intolerance and prejudice.

2. Using accusations of hate and irrational fear: The goal has been to convince the public that opponents of gay marriage are racist haters with irrational phobias. They are homophobic and hateful bigots. They are portrayed as irrational religious fanatics who destroy civility. Supporters of traditional marriage are presented as dangerous people who cling to bigoted ancient laws of a by-gone era.

3. Exposing heterosexual hypocrisy: Attention is drawn to marriage as a failing institution among heterosexuals. This is partly done to make Christians appear to be hypocritical for opposing gay marriage when they have their own marriage crisis. It is an effort to silence them on opposition to gay marriage.

4. Using the language of justice: In a twisted way, radicals paint opponents of gay marriage as perpetrators of injustice. They are accused of inequity for denying loving people the opportunities to have the same rights and freedoms others enjoy.

5. Using the language of religion: Connecting gay rights to religious freedom and claiming God’s approval of gay relationships is another tactic. They scold us for failing to understand that religion is about love and tolerance. Although every major faith for most of history denounced homosexual behavior, they suggest that it’s the view of a fringe group of fundamentalists.

6. Playing the victim card: Every crime or death that can be connected in any measure to homosexuality is used to demand special laws for homosexuals to protect them from violence. They want us to believe that all opposition to gay marriage incites hate and violence. This played on the gullibility of Christians and silenced too many of them.

7. Using judicial coercion: Since State after State has approved constitutional amendments protecting traditional marriage, radicals bully Americans into acceptance of gay marriage by judicial force.

All of these tactics have been used to pressure the public to accept and celebrate homosexual lifestyles as normal. Our country is being coerced to create special status for the sexual choices of a small percentage of citizens.

A vigorous return to truth is needed. We must not fall for the unproven hypothesis that being gay is something comparable to race and gender. Homosexuality is about the sex people are choosing, not unalterable conditions of birth.

In our nation, those who prefer homosexuality are free as consenting adults to engage in the behavior. If treated wrongfully for their choices, they have the same laws to protect them that cover the rest of society. Are we prepared to make the kind of sex people desire a new civil rights issue? This is not about discrimination—unless we want to extend civil rights status to every sexual lifestyle people choose. Discrimination of the civil rights kind injures people for what they are by nature not for the sex they desire.

A radical redefinition of the institution of marriage and family must be opposed. Jesus Christ validated the words that have been the foundation for marriage since the beginning of humanity: “…at the beginning the Creator made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’” (Matthew 19:4-5).

Steve Cornell
Senior pastor
Millersville Bible Church
Millersville, PA. 17551
www.thinkpoint.wordpress.com
1.7.2011 | 10:45pm
Gail F says:
On numerous occasions when I've debated homosexual unions with other people, they've brought up the whole "love is all that matters" argument. And when I say that, as a matter of fact, love is NOT a requirement for marriage, they look at me as if I am out of my mind. I point out that historically people have married for many reasons, love being only one ("but that was a long time ago!") and that in many countries right now marriages are arranged by the parents of the spouses, who might not even know each other ("that's outrageous -- and in any case I'm talking about US, not THOSE people"). They just will not admit, however long we talk, that love is not a requirement for a marriage to be legal, valid, happy and (in many cases) even desirable. If love is "all" that matters, then stories like this are possible. But if it isn't -- if it's desirable but not necessary -- then stories like this are rather disgusting. And what about the jilted spouses and the children? Doesn't their love count for anything?
1.8.2011 | 9:26am
CKG says:
@ Gail F -

The whole phenomenon laid out so wonderfully in 'Fiddler On the Roof' - that love might grow out of commitment extended over time - is utterly nonsensical to 21st-century Americans. . .

And *of course* the the love of the jilted spouses, and the promises that they had thought were being made to them, count for nothing. I mean, how *could* they, as against a love so spontaneous, so overwhelming, so, um, easy? Sucks to be them, y'know?
1.8.2011 | 9:29am
Michael PS says:
Gail F is quite right.

In the days of the traditional family, structured around a patriarch and expanding from hearth to hearth, the state, alarmed by the misalliances allowed by “clandestine” marriages based on love matches, imposed strict controls by families over the choice of a spouse, while the Church undertook to restrict sexuality to the conjugal sphere, as witness the near-disappearance of illegitimate births from the second half of the 17th century onwards.

In Modern Marriage (1) – say, 1789-1960, both Church and State embraced and promoted marriage as a way of rescuing the individual from insecurity and solitude. The family was structured around the housewife and the husband as breadwinner. Early remarriage by both widows and widowers was very high: widows needed the financial support and widowers needed someone to look after their home and children.

We are now on Modern Marriage (2) which appeared with the growing financial independence of women and the spread of amenities like domestic hot water, electric cookers and fridge/freezers that made living alone feasible for those working full-time.

For most, romantic feelings probably paid a minor role in the choice of a spouse.
1.8.2011 | 10:26am
ferd says:
Just a word in edgewise... if homosexuality is genetic and not really a chosen lifestyle, Western civilization must clearly decide what ethical basis it will function under. The center of civilization is the definition of "the family". If we are to operate under secular ethics, then let's clearly examine what those ethics are and how they define the family.
On the other hand, if we are to operate on the Judeo-Christian value system than "civil unions" is the most generous offer on the table. The problem is that a huge chunk of Western Christians have adopted the trainwreck of secular ethics on the basis of "first stage thinking", on emotional terms, without fully grasping the resulting inhumanity.
Secular ethics are Utilitarian to the core, in the sense that physical equality and compassion (which facilitates the Christian acceptance of gay marraige) are paramount until "I am paramount" then equality be damned. With history as a bleary-eyed witness, the Earth is littered with a billion bones of the "equalized" whose leaders suddenly realized they were now dominant.
1.8.2011 | 12:05pm
William says:
Rush Limbaugh, icon of all that is conservative, is on his fourth marriage.
1.8.2011 | 12:55pm
Matthew says:
Kevin Staley-Joyce has written an excellent critique of 'modern love', of the atempts to pervert the meaning of mariage, and of the unravelling of its credibility as serious human commitment. At the rate things are going, one wonders how much longer those of us with a religious perspective on these matters will be willing to accept government interference in what we believe is first and foremost a sacred institution.

This article deserves wide circulation. Many, many thanks.
1.8.2011 | 1:09pm
Ferd, It would be good to back up and ask what you mean be "equal."

William: You are using the strategy I outline above. Hopefully, more will see it for what it actually is.
1.8.2011 | 5:17pm
Stuart Koehl says:
"Rush Limbaugh, icon of all that is conservative, is on his fourth marriage."

Abusus non tollit usus.
1.8.2011 | 6:24pm
Joe says:
What is marriage? The Science of Anthropology 1) notes there are hundreds of marriage and "kinship systems" in human culture.

And surprisingly, 2) the Bible itself - which the Church is sworn to obey - contained any number of non-traditional marriages and relationships. Many of which are evidently approved of, by God.

For example, a) Abraham himself, had a child, a son, by a servant woman. Then too b) Solomon, said to be "wise" in the Bible, by God, had hundreds of wives, and hundreds of concubines.

But especially, c) Jesus himself told us that there are neither men nor women or marriages, in heaven, more or less. While d) the Church suggested that nuns and possibly e) priests, are "married to" Jesus. While finally and most importantly, d) Jesus referred in Rev. 21, to the marriage of Heaven, with earth, as the more important marriage.

God therefore, did not stress man-and-woman marriage, nearly as much as conservative Catholics do. Specifically, Heaven coming down to earth, as a "bride prepared for" her bachelor (Rev. 21), is perhaps the most important marriage advocated by the Bible, and by God - and it is a non-traditional, non-conservative marriage. In fact in part, that marriage was interpreted, as a rather male God - God the "Father" - coming to join a - partially male - Church on earth, one day. So that the Bible, God, presents a crucial "marriage" between ... a male, and males. As possibly, moreover, the main marriage model, in the Bible.

So is God the REAL source, of the whole conservative "Catholic" idea, of a man and woman marriage? Actually, God is not the source of that idea as much as it is really, in large part, not from the Bible. Rather it is to some degree from ... middle class bourgeois, conventions. The notion of a man-woman marriage as definitional, is just another Middle Class opinion, falsely read out to us as the word of God. By conservatives; who are always eager to present their own simple, conventional opinions, their own fallible "traditions of men," as if they were the pronouncements of the Church, and of God.

Conservative Catholics, as usual, confuse their own mere social, political opinions, with the actual words of God. Conservative Catholics, as usual in effect, presenting their own opinions, as God.

Finally, God and the Bible appear opposed to conservative Catholics, on this matter of marriage.
1.8.2011 | 8:41pm
Don Roberto says:
All this feeling, conscious or subconscious, of a "right to happiness" is, from a rationalistic perspecitve, naive at best, and from a Christian one, a clear example of idolatry: the worship of sex, passion, pleasure, etc. Honesty, agape, and other real values are unimportant to the false god.

Joe, Jesus specifically criticixed divorce, and if you read Solomon's full story, you'll see he did not end well, depite his wisdom, precisely because of his poor marital decisions.

1.9.2011 | 7:22am
Michael PS says:
I suspect that there is a profound difference of philosophy, between those who view civil marriage as a "pillar of the Republic," to be valued for the public purposes it serves, rather than for the incidental benefits it confers on individuals and those who regard it as a means of access to certain personal advantages. Perhaps, this is the debate we should be having.
1.9.2011 | 10:51am
JP says:
Let's face it, the bourgeosie have abandoned the idea of sacremental marriage. Not even most Catholics abide by the institution. There are, of course, many reasons. But I posit that contraception was the last straw. When one poisons the gift God has given married couples, when the Marriage Act itself becomes an act "full of sound and fury signifying nothing", it is all over.
1.9.2011 | 12:24pm
Sean says:
It saddens me to see that so many here and on the internet have taken the portilla-riddell marriage as an occasion to express their outrage over what marriage has become, when in fact they should be objects of derision. If you want to preserve marriage or any other social institution, you have to do what people in the old days did: humiliate anyone who breaches the contract.
1.9.2011 | 3:14pm
Joe, even assuming that your reading of things is credible,(an iffy proposition), how does that lead to our present state of affairs. There are any number of more current explanations. Do you propose that the current offerings by same sex proponents is the default position? Allowing for a historical development in our understanding of marriage (and of course history played a role) your rather imaginative reading of that developement does not, by most lights, lead to what you seem to be proposing. As a matter of fact most of the arguments in play today make no reference to history written large. Most use the language of our day and are couched in the decidedly ideological. You and others seemed to be surprised and apalled that there is resistance to redefining what the majority of Americans had always seemed to think marriage was and is. One of my takes on all of this is that there is a double scam being pulled here; first we redefine marriage to include same sex then as Andrew Sullivan, I think it was he, said a few years back, of course what we mean by marriage will be different than what you mean by marriage. he went on to make the case that since the reality of gay sex is different the dynamics of gay marriage will be different to wit; it will be more of an open arrangement, monogamy is optional. He did not mean this as a recognition that there would be those who would stumble before the high standard of monogamy. He meant that from the beginning this would be a standard understanding of what gay marriage would and should contain. So after all the high sounding polemics regarding love and family and fairness etc. we come to this. Gays will redefine who gets married and then redefine what the standards of marriage will be and in the process further debase our common culture which is doing a perfectly good job without your further assistance. Although to be fair why should your contributions be denied the opportunity to add to the confusion of our common moral commity. So come on in the waters fine.
1.10.2011 | 3:43am
Michael PS says:
The obligation of fidelity in marriage is rooted in the concept of marriage as the founding of a family and to prevent the imposition of a spurious issue on the husband.

The presumption of paternity of the husband rests on the obligation of fidelity between spouses and reflects the commitment made by the husband during the celebration of marriage, to raise the couple's children and cannot be questioned without losing for this institution its meaning and value.

It is difficult to see that it has any practical relevance to a same-sex union.
1.10.2011 | 9:41am
Artaban says:
Well, it's official. Joe isn't a Christian. Joe, God IS the source of the traditional view of marriage.

1) Genesis 2: 18-34 (the first marriage is monogamous, and between man and woman).

2) Most importantly, from the mouth of Jesus himself, "But from the beginning God made them male and female. For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, no human being must separate." Mark 10: 6-12

There is a warning for those who wish to try and twist the Bible to conform to their desires, and teach others to do so, Joe. It's that passage from Jesus concerning millstones and drowning in the sea. You ought to look into it...

3) Finally, look at the cases of marriage we see throughout the Bible. Those characters who practiced polygamy always had it come back to bite them. Those who were monogamous were blessed (Sarah and Tobin, Ruth and Boaz, etc.).
7.27.2011 | 12:36am
Royce Knecht says:
Yes, I want to clarify that I don't mean that changes to our core definitions don't affect liberal elites, but as CKG has pointed out, liberal elites because of their wealth are better able to absorb the blow while non-elites generally haven't the slightest idea of what hit them in the first place. It saddens me to see that so many here and on the internet have taken the portilla-riddell marriage as an occasion to express their outrage over what marriage has become, when in fact they should be objects of derision. If you want to preserve marriage or any other social institution, you have to do what people in the old days did: humiliate anyone who breaches the contract.
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