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A Man Who Used Any Means Necessary

At long last, the United States is rightly celebrating a key success in the struggle against international terrorism: We have brought to justice Osama bin Laden, longtime head of al-Qaeda and a prime architect of the 9/11 attacks. No defender of democracy or the lives of the innocent can be sorry to hear that bin Laden will no longer be able to lend his spurious moral authority to calls for jihad against the West. The world is a safer place, and is now vexed by one less strident voice of unreason, hatred, and fanatical violence.

Bin Laden was for some time largely neutralized as an operative force for terror, yet he has symbolically represented much worse than the damage he personally has been able to cause: namely, a willingness to put aside all moral norms of justice, charity, honesty, and decency in service of a cause he deeply believed in.

There are two victories, then, in this mission: one over bin Laden as a threat to our safety and security, and one over bin Laden as the face of moral fanaticism. This second victory can only be sustained, however, if we refuse the temptation of joining bin Laden by being willing to do anything in service of our ends. Our success, significant though it is, cannot become for us the measure against which all that has been done these past ten years is to be measured.

Some have already seized upon the report that “detainee interrogation” was instrumental in determining bin Laden’s location to suggest that “enhanced interrogation” works and has thereby been justified. And we can, I believe, expect these claims to be made more often and more vocally in the coming days.

U.S. forces discovered Bin Laden’s compound by following an al-Qaeda courier who had been identified by the CIA some four years earlier on the basis of information gleaned at Guantanamo Bay. The courier was part of Khalid Sheik Mohammed’s network, and KSM, as he is now popularly known, was waterboarded repeatedly; it is certainly possible that the information about the courier was obtained in this way.

Of course, it is also possible that it was not. No one, to my knowledge, denies that good and valuable information has been gleaned over the past several years by non-coercive interrogation. In fact, some analysts have argued that it is precisely a more “friendly” approach that bears the best fruit. Given the information that we have to this point, it would be false to claim that enhanced interrogation was responsible for our success in this case.

But even if it were, it is imperative that we remember that this is not enough to justify the continued use of such techniques. As I and others have argued, enhanced interrogation techniques claim the greatest potential for success when employed to break down the subject, to damage his bodily and mental integrity to the point at which he has no choice but to talk (a reply often made to this is that in such a condition, men will say anything, thus calling into question the value of their testimony).

Degrees of discomfort and even perhaps pain that are short of this disintegrating level can be permissible to provide inducements—like rewards for good behavior—and some disincentives for non-compliance can be rightly applied. But hardened terrorists are likely to resist such efforts, and the temptation, as evidenced at Guantanamo and elsewhere, is to go further in forcing the compliance of the interrogation subject.

This sort of approach to the problem of interrogation, whether it is effective or not, is profoundly disrespectful to the person being interrogated or, more accurately, to the person whose treatment now approaches outright torture. Euphemisms such as “enhanced interrogation” or the somewhat more honest “torture lite” seek to conceal the fundamental similarity of such approaches with what would be recognized by anyone as torture: the attempt, through debilitating pain, physical mutilation, or unendurable psychic pressure to destroy the unity, identity, and integrity of the living human subject.

But the human person—every human person—is a rational being, a child of God, and a being possessed of that radical inalienable dignity that is shared by all members of the species. To attempt to break down any person—even if only “up to a point”—is to fail to respect their personal nature in a deep way.

Still, many will appeal to the consequences of enhanced interrogation, which has finally brought the reign of bin Laden to an end. Yet the appeal to consequences is of little to no value here: Do we really know that the death of bin Laden outweighs the physical and mental damage done to the interrogatory subjects, or the moral damage done to those tasked with carrying out the interrogation, or to our reputation in the Arab world, or indeed to the West’s relationship with Islam for the next century and beyond?

Torture of various sorts, interrogational and otherwise, was used to serve immediate political ends in the years following the Reformation and Counter-Reformation in England and Europe: The accumulated hatred and distrust between Catholics and Protestants could perhaps have been foreseen, but then again perhaps not. Yet in retrospect we can see that even in ignorance of the consequences, a radically different path than the bloody and coercive one should have been pursued by the era’s Catholic and Protestant regimes.

To repeat: The close of the bin Laden era is cause for great satisfaction and rejoicing; the mission itself appears to have been a marvel of planning, and to have been restrained in its use of force and in the blood that was shed. It is a proud moment for the United States and for all the world.

But we should nonetheless see bin Laden as just a man, and our triumph as something more than just the accomplishment of his death: We have brought to justice a man who was the face of justice flouted, of humanity foresworn, of peace destroyed. These ideals must remain ours, and we must not be co-opted by the allure of a motto bin Laden clearly lived: “by any means necessary.”

Christopher Tollefsen, a senior fellow of the Witherspoon Institute, is a professor of philosophy at the University of South Carolina and author, with Robert. P. George, of Embryo: A Defense of Human Life.

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Comments:

5.3.2011 | 1:03pm
DVO says:
First, according to the reports I've seen, incomplete as they admittedly are, OBL was not "assassinated" but was killed while actively resisting capture, engaged in a firefight with Navy SEALS. Certainly, the outcome of the mission is the one that would have most likely been anticipated. However, if all that was desired was the death of OBL, a well-aimed missile or two would have sufficed. No need to risk the lives of valuable, highly trained military personnel.

Second, Abraham Lincoln was "assassinated". JFK, Olof Palme, Theo Van Gogh were "assassinated". Those tragic events offer quite divergent narratives to that of OBL's Let's not confuse the difference between them by misusing words for dramatic effect.

Having said that, there are certainly legitimate questions to be asked concerning just how far this nation should go in fighting the "war on terror". This event provides an excellent occasion to ask those questions.
5.3.2011 | 1:35pm
Jon Burk says:
I think all Americans are rejoicing with the death of Bin Laden. It has been a hard hunt and raises several question as to how the Pakistani government could not have know he was there. He was in a million dollar fortress. I think this also shows the world that if you try to hurt the United States we will hunt you down no matter where you are and we will not ask permission to get you. We will go into any country to avenge our brothers and sister Americans.
5.3.2011 | 1:39pm
The Gnu says:
The principle is expressed a man who sheds blood by man shall his blood be shed. It's precisely when the case involves crimes against the dignity of humanity, the right to dignity belonging to the criminal is legitmately pretermitted. But doing so affirms and does not deny the dignity of man. This refers to the case of murder but the principle is extendable. One need not be a utilitarian to argue that in certain cases such as penology or war one may proceed against the dignity of someone, particularly if their actions against humanity have put you in a prima facie moral dilemma between respecting his humanity versus the humanity of likely victems.
5.3.2011 | 1:40pm
Corey Young says:
You are right DVO...Obama was not assassinated...but I really do not think they ever had any intention of taking him alive anyway. Why should we waste good money on a trial and feed him when we would kill him anyway.
5.3.2011 | 1:56pm
We fought evil Communism without losing our values, and we can fight evil Islam as well without getting lost.
5.3.2011 | 2:20pm
Mike says:
The only thing that the murder of OBL proves is that the rule of law means nothing to the US government, and apparently to a large percentage of Americans. It will kill whom it pleases, when it pleases, where it pleases, for whatever purpose it pleases. And, you may be next. It may not be with impunity. We will see how many more Americans die because of this folly.
5.3.2011 | 3:30pm
Wulfila says:
As Paul Griffiths notes (http://pauljgriffiths.com/2011/05/03/lament-for-an-assassination/), the death of bin Laden is an occasion for lament rather than rejoicing - first, because of the death of the man himself, second because of likelihood that co-existence between American democracy and Islamic states will become more difficult than it already is and perhaps absolutely impossible, and most importantly because of the profound decline in American moral principles implicit in a policy of targeted assassination. As a Christian I do not and cannot rejoice. I repent for my nation's sin in sackcloth and ashes.
5.3.2011 | 3:43pm
Mars5846 says:
The death of OBL is a thing to be celebrated. Who have forgotten on what he did on Sept. 9? But then again, he is just another person and can and will be replaced by somebody with the same fanaticism and cruelty. The Al-queda won't be just sitting after what happened. They will strike back and strike back harder. My only hope is that the United States government has a plan on how to prevent a retalliation from AL-QAEDA..
5.3.2011 | 4:30pm
I understand hesitancy about “celebrating” the death of Bin Laden but (for perspective) execution of one guilty of murder is a mandated function of human government (Genesis 9:6; Romans 13:1-5). Justice has been served. “When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers” (Proverbs 21:15).

The actions of police or military in taking human life challenge one’s understanding of the role of government at the deepest possible level. And a Christian perspective on this involves ethical mandates that (on casual glance) appear to conflict with each other.

How does love for enemies, forgiveness of offenders and turning the other cheek apply to just punishments by human governments?
If interested, http://thinkpoint.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/responding-to-bin-ladens-execution/
5.3.2011 | 4:41pm
Stephen says:
We were attacked. We identified, located and brought the attacker to justice.

Many "experts" fear retaliation. Haven't we just demonstrated that it is our enemies who should fear retaliation?

In our war against terrorists, we seek Just Retribution. The Church is one of the few public institutions willing to recognize that great evil still comes into the world and that heinous criminals cry out for justice of a greater magnitude.
5.3.2011 | 5:14pm
A.M says:
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1101730.htm - good to read this , about the need for each person to reflect , not rejoice !

True justice could have been enough persons trying hard , for the great promise - 'you be one that the world may believe' .

on May 1st ,we honored a great man who along with many others , put in lots of efforts into that promise , to see the fall of communism .

On the other hand, would not rejoicing in violent death of any mean that we have withdrawn trust from His grace being able to reach even the hardened ..
esp. in our times when our Lord promised 'you shall do greater things ' , possibly indicating conversion of many , like St.Stephen , ST.Peter or St.Paul did .

Would such rejoicing even become like a negative prayer , inviting in agents of death !

True, we can look at the 'practicality ' of things in our human wisdom and jusitice ; yet , history has also shown us, esp. in recent years , what such practical wisdom has accomplished !

Reflection is the rightful approach , along with prayers for mercy on all involved so that the other side too would only see Hands of Justice in His Will and thus a call for more peaceful ways in the future !
5.3.2011 | 5:31pm
David says:
My greatest fear is of retaliation. We have now created in essence a martyr. The radical Islamist extremists now have a larger cause to rally around. While I can agree that OBL certainly got what he deserved, the result may have been better had we captured him and brought him to trial through islamic law. His death by exection style may well cause more problems than we solved.
5.3.2011 | 5:56pm
I think that something very important must be noted about Christian theology and the dignity of the human person in reguard to Wulfilia's comment above. The United States was not targeting the man for the sake of killing the man himself, the United States was targeting a man for the values which he embodied. Without a doubt, Christianity condemns killing. But assassination and warfare are distinctly different from capital murder in that assassination and warfare attack the value embodied in the person, not the humanity of the person himself.

Wulfilia would, I'm sure, agree that some values and ethical systems can, in full justice, be hated and despised because values and ethical systems are capable of being completely evil creations (the Nazi reigiem, Nero's Christian purge, to state a few outside examples). And while Christian theology would hold that even Nero, Hitler and Bin Laden were still men and therefore an inherantly good creation of God, the fact that these three men were the ultimate embodyment of their respective value systems justifies them being targeted in order to combat the evil institutions which they led.
5.3.2011 | 6:19pm
David Gray says:
>>The only thing that the murder of OBL proves is that the rule of law means nothing to the US government, and apparently to a large percentage of Americans.

This statement would indicate the writer has no familiarity with the rule of law, in either its domestic or international manifestations.
5.3.2011 | 6:47pm
Ken Hartmann says:
Very thoughtful discussion of torture. It seems the present US administration has turned its back on the use of enhanced interrogation techniques. Instead, we are using Predator drones to kill our opponents and are said to have killed some 1,200 persons in Afghanistan and Pakistan with this method.

I guess that if torture is bad, killing people is probably worse. Somehow it doesn't seem to get picked up with the same fervor.
5.3.2011 | 6:50pm
SegoLily says:
Obama is dead. So what???? The West is still in fetid decline and beholden to political correctness. We kowtow to Islam in all its forms. We make excuses for that sociopathic belief system. Women and children suffer under sharia law, polygamy, etc... Here in my hometown Christian pastors are handing out the Koran to show "good-will" in light of OBL's death. The White House won't reveal pictures of the corpse because radical Islam might be offended.

I don't believe in the war on terror--it's so overblown. 9/11 was a tragedy, but the aftermath has been a study in the absurd.
5.3.2011 | 7:29pm
Mike says:
What evidence do you have that OBL was involved. When was his trial? Who was on his jury? Where are the arguments and the evidence? When was he found guilty? When was he sentenced? There seems to me more evidence of a false flag operation. But we found a scape goat, so let's kill him.

The "Church" as you say may recognize "that great evil comes into the world", but the people fail to recognize from whence it comes. Muslims don't hate American freedoms nearly as much as they hate American meddling. People don't just get up one morning and say, "gee, let me take my life saving, go to America, learn how to fly, so I can kill myself flying an airplane into a cement and steel building". Common sense demands an impetus. Those people are crying out for justice for the crimes committed against Arab and Muslim countries for the last 70 years by the US government.

Killing OBL, or pretending to, will not solve the problem. It is simply more evidence of American Imperialism. The US government's foreign policy is a terrorist factory. And, now they are busy building a police state to protect themselves from the consequences of their own folly.
5.3.2011 | 7:36pm
T. Hanski says:
Osama has been burning in Hell for over one day now! What a beautiful news!

Congratulations, America on ridding the world of the murderous monster. The justice has been served.

And please, America do not let the choir of hypocrites lamenting the dispatch of the mad dog spoil your joy. Most of these, oh so righteous, moral poseurs could hardly conceal their gloating after Sep. 11 massacre howling that hateful insult that “America had it coming”.
There will always be deviants who will protest the punishment of the wicked and spit at the suffering of the victim. I am old enough to remember the bastards who bemoaned the injustice of hanging A. Eichman calling it inhuman and demanding mercy for him. This is exactly the same crowd that protests killing of Bin Laden today. May your joy, America, increase with their distress. Mine does.
5.3.2011 | 8:52pm
Vic says:
I am Catholic, by far imperfect but always trying to do my best, without injuring in any way or form anybody that crosses my path. But I am also human, and as a trained engineer I try to see things in a very realistic way. I do not support torture, I abhor it, but many times I wonder what I would do if the lives of my kids depended on information closely guarded by an individual. What would all of us, who talk about "not losing our values”, do if we were in such a situation. I know what I would do, I would get that information one way or another; and I can bet that most of us would do the same if that was the way to save the lives of loved ones. The terrorists captured are not going to give information that would save the lives of Americans, mine, yours or yours, if we ask them nicely. It doesn't work that way. Be realistic, politeness is not going to save your lives. We didn't start this war, but we should be the ones to finish it; one way or another.
5.3.2011 | 9:54pm
jdc says:
Let's remember that OBL wasn't an American citizen with all the rights that affords. He was an enemy combatant bent on mass murder. KSM was the same except he happened to be in our custody. My understanding is that KSM's torture, and the killing of OBL which was it's result, was an act of war that is justified under traditional just war theory. I'm not well versed enough in that theory to offer a defense of the US's recent actions but, it seems to me that there is an argument to be made. Perhaps someone else can chime in re: whether the US acted in accordance with traditional just war doctrine.
5.3.2011 | 10:04pm
Stephen says:
Mike,

Evidence??? Osama confessed guilt after 9/11. He has repeatedly been linked to 9/11 and other terror plots by US and international intelligence.

Whatever blunders and unintended consequences arose from US foreign policy, there is NO justification for targeting innocents in office buildings!

American imperialism? We've left every site of military action in our nation's history as liberators and defenders of freedom. We don't occupy. We don't possess. We don't conquer.

The debate could continue over whether a bit of American imperialism might be good for the rest of the world. Many former Commonwealth nations owe what little civilization they have to their time spent under Pax Brittanica.
5.3.2011 | 10:51pm
K Brown says:
I'm glad Bin Laden was brought to justice. I don't rejoice over the loss of any life though. I believe our behaviour is important and dancing in the streets over any death is offensive to me. As is torture of any kind and I don't think it's effective. I also can't expect anyone else not to use torture, if we're willing to do it. I love our troops, and I hate to think that anyone would torture them.

I also don't feel like we showed the world that you don't mess with us. It took us ten years to get him, it's a victory, but not a bragging point in my book. To me, we could be bragging if we weren't perpetually at war. The way it was instigated, there's no good way out. It could have been so much different.
5.4.2011 | 1:21am
Kate says:
The end doesn't justify the mean. The lord said to be in the world not of the world. So as Christians we need to set the example. Dont get me wrong I agree OBL needed to be brought to justice. However, one question we fail to answer is how many innocent people did our government torture to find him. These are grey times some say the age of revelations and we must keep our values more now than ever.
amen
5.4.2011 | 2:09am
Vincent Wong says:
T. Hanski, you echo my sentiments. Those that protest Bin Laden's killing have unwittingly though voluntarily become enablers of evil.
5.4.2011 | 7:08am
michael says:
It is sad what we have become !
5.4.2011 | 7:29am
T. Hanski says:
@ Kate:
"However, one question we fail to answer is how many innocent people did our government torture to find him."

Torture?
Ah, you must mean "waterboarded".

Now, how many innocent people were waterboarded to find him?
Would the answer "none" satisfy you?
Why not? Have a better take?
5.4.2011 | 11:35am
Mike says:
@Stephen Actually, OBL said, that while he was liked the attack, he had no part in it. But that is beside the point. The executive branch of government, is not, prosecution, judge, jury and executioner.

While your second statement may be correct, reality tells us that when people suffer continued injustice with no avenue for legitimate redress, eventually they will begin to strike back by whatever means are available. American citizens are responsible, in theory, for the actions of their government and therefore not innocent. The US government is responsible for far more dead, because of its foreign policy, than were killed on 9/11. For that matter, the US government has gotten more Americans killed than died on 9/11 in trying kill the ones it claims are responsible. The ones ultimately responsible, though, are the US politicians and bureaucrats who believe they change the regimes of sovereign nations, at will, with no repercussions. It is folly. And every Arab and Muslim in the world knows it, even if most Americans are in denial.

Your third paragraph is just laughable in its naivete. Japan and Germany are still occupied, as is South Korea. We have troops and bases in more than 150 countries. We have toppled leader in numerous countries. Saddam Insane was our guy, before he wasn't. We tend more toward evil dictators, than democratic processes because democracy is so messy and the outcome uncertain. Dictators are easy. Pay them off and they basically do what you want. You just have to look the other way, as they murder their own people. But those people know how they got to power. And what is going on in Libya? It is an attack on Chinese interests in Africa and on a country that is opposed to US political and currency hegemony in the region.

The debate over a "bit of American imperialism" might continue among the myopic and simpleminded. But as imperialism continues in actual practice, American and West will continue to slide into the abyss of totalitarianism. The US government will continue apace, building a police state to protect it from its own folly. The US government is not a model for the world when it declines to abide by its own laws.
5.4.2011 | 12:26pm
Jon White says:
"To attempt to break down any person—even if only “up to a point”—is to fail to respect their personal nature in a deep way." And we all know that the words, "to fail to respect a person's personal nature in a deep way" is a fancy way to say "to sin". And to kill an enemy soldier on a battlefield must be, by definition, "to fail to respect the soldier's personal nature in a deep way." So being a combat soldier in a battle must be sinful. How easily these sentimental intellectuals tie themselve up in knots. All physical and psychological coersion is NOT sinful, else parents could not discipline their children. Putting a terrorist under severe or psychological coersion while a doctor monitors vital signs to ensure no permanent harm is done is NOT torture. It is unpleasant, yes, as are many things that are not sinful.
5.4.2011 | 12:36pm
David R says:
The U.S. government say bin Laden's body was buried at sea. "But where’s the proof? Let’s at least remember the most detailed video from the seizure of the overgrown and wild Saddam Hussein. Show us the video or at least a photograph of the main terrorist's corpse, fragments of the examination of his captured colleagues or family members. Maybe they won't say what's needed and that's why they don't show it? Instead of this, we only get Obama's bravado speech. And why was the main 'material evidence' disposed of so quickly? Bin Laden's corpse yestery was apparently thrown into the waters of the Arabian Sea, so that no one would look for it. And we're meant to believe this, taken on word?"
5.4.2011 | 1:00pm
Paul says:
"American citizens are responsible, in theory, for the actions of their government and therefore not innocent."

Mike, this is an extraordinary statement. Do you mean to imply that noncombatant citizens deserve to be killed on account of actions undertaken by their government officials? Do you include people who didn't vote for those officials? Do you include women and children?

Also, just out of curiosity, do you live in the United States, and if so, do you include yourself in this indictment?
5.4.2011 | 2:43pm
Mike says:
"Mike, this is an extraordinary statement. Do you mean to imply that noncombatant citizens deserve to be killed on account of actions undertaken by their government officials? Do you include people who didn't vote for those officials? Do you include women and children? "

"Also, just out of curiosity, do you live in the United States, and if so, do you include yourself in this indictment?"

No, I didn't say that. Our government is supposed to be of, by and for the people. That is what we advertise, though it is not true, there are consequences, among those are the fact that victims of violence perpetrated by the US government blame Americans for that violence. This makes Americans targets for revenge, by those seeking justice who are unable to get it by other means. What is extraordinary about that. Did the US government kill Iraqi civilians who didn't support Saddam? Or Afghans, Pakistanis, and on, and on, and on... Did the US government starve tens of thousands of Iraqi children to death with sanctions? What did Hillary say about it? It was worth the cost to kill all those children. To get our man, who decided to quit being our man.

Yes, I live in the US. I voted for 42 the first time, but not the second. And I absolutely do include myself in the indictment and will spend the rest of my life opposing the aggression of the US Government and its interference in the affairs of sovereign nations. It has completely and totally slipped the bounds of the constitution. And I do not see a pleasant end.
5.6.2011 | 12:19am
A false dilemma based on a false comparison:

Tracing God’s will on these matters must begin with a scene from the earliest days of history. Not long into the human story, God required capital punishment for murderers. He said, “Whoever sheds man’s blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God he made man.” (Genesis 9:6). The phrase “sheds man’s blood” is used euphemistically for two different kinds of death. The first is an act of murder (this is what Bin Laden did); the second, a just-punishment of the murderer (this is what our military did). We must not equate these actions.

The cliche about killing people to show that it’s wrong to kill people creates a false dilemma based on a false comparison. I think it is best not to use the term “killed” to describe what the authorities did to Bin Laden. They executed a murder.

An act of murder is far different from just-punishment of a murderer. One action is criminal; the other, a God-ordained function of government.
5.8.2011 | 2:01pm
Thaddeus says:
How intelligent Catholics can believe the ridiculous and constantly chancgin narrative the government has concocted is beyond me. Before I would believe it, I'd like these questions answered, and so should you.

1) The Clinton administration turned down the Sudanese government’s offer to turn bin Laden over to the United States claiming they didn’t have enough evidence against him. Why when he was the most notorious terrorist in the world?

2) Why was the bin Laden family flown out of the USA after the 911 attacks when all our planes were grounded? One plane was actually chartered by bin Laden himself. Why? Who made that decision and why?
3) Why did the US refuse the Taliban offer to turn over OBL to an Arab state just after 911?

4) Sibel Edmonds the famous whistleblower muzzled by the US government, says bin Laden was working with the CIA right up to and after 911. Why? CIA agents visited OBL in the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001. Why?

5) Why was bin Laden never indicted for the crime of 911? Why did his FBI “rap sheet” not include the crime of 911 if he planned and had it executed?

6) Why kill bin Laden when he might have had valuable Intel, secrets etc. especially when he was allegedly unarmed?

7) Why lie about a live feed for President Obama so he could watch the killing when there was no live feed of the execution?

8) Why say bin Laden was armed when he wasn’t?

9) Why say bin Laden hid behind a woman when he didn’t?

10) Why stage the photo’s of Obama Sunday night and in the situation room?

11) Why say that Seal Team 6 encountered a huge fire-fight when then didn’t?

12) Why didn’t the people in bin Laden’s compound hear the helicopter’s and shoot at them? Didn’t bin Laden the most dangerous terrorist in the world have any security forces?

13) Why say that bin Laden was buried at sea so quickly, claiming it was in-keeping with Muslim tradition and practice when it wasn’t?

14) Why say no country would accept OBL’s body when this is false? Many have subsequently said they would have accepted it.

15) The United States is now working with al Qaeda in Libya. The so-called “rebels” from the Benghazi area are al Qaeda operatives who have a working relationship with the CIA. Why then are we supporting them?

16) If bin Laden was just killed by Seal Team 6, why did American officials say that he died years ago including Madeleine Albright former Secretary of State, Bob Barr of the CIA, Dr. Steve Pieczenik and former Reagan Administration Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Paul Craig Roberts and others. In addition, Benazir Bhutto, former Prime Minister of Pakistan said bin Laden had been killed by Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh just several weeks before she was assassinated. Years ago even General Pervez Musharraf said he thought bin Laden was dead. Moreover, David Ray Griffin perhaps the most prolific writer alleging that 911 was a false flag event, wrote an entire book about how Osama bin Laden had died in late 2001.
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