Sometimes, late at night, when the branches of the large pine outside my window are swaying in a hot breeze and brushing with a sinister whisper against my window panes, and sleep seems to loom far above me like some inaccessible peak floating in the cerulean depths of the Himalayan sky, I find myself worrying obsessively about the thylacine and the fossa. What accounts for them? Are they perhaps signs of some cosmic mystery that the sciences will ultimately prove impotent to penetrate? Are they quadrupedal portents of the transcendent? Or are they signs of a physical determinism so absolute as to be indistinguishable from fate?
If you are not given to similar anxieties, however, you may not know what I am talking about. So maybe I should try to explain what I mean.
The great danger that bedevils any powerful heuristic or interpretive discipline is the tendency to mistake method for ontology, and so to mistake a partial perspective on particular truths for a comprehensive vision of truth as such. In the modern world, this is an especially pronounced danger in the sciences, largely because of the exaggerated reverence scientists enjoy in the popular imagination, and also largely because of the incapacity of many in the scientific establishment to distinguish between scientific rigor and materialist ideology (or, better, materialist metaphysics).
This has two disagreeable results (well, actually, far more than two, but two that are relevant here): The lunatic self-assurance with which some scientists imagine that their training in, say, physics or zoology has somehow equipped them to address philosophical questions whose terms they have never even begun to master; and the inability of many scientists to recognize realities—even very obvious realities—that lie logically outside the reach of the methods their disciplines employ. The best example of the latter, I suppose, would be the inability of certain contemporary champions of “naturalism” to grasp that the question of existence is qualitatively infinitely distinct from the question of how one physical reality arises from another (for, inasmuch as physics can explore only the physical, and the physical by definition already exists, then existence as such is always “metaphysical,” or even “hyperphysical”—which is to say, “supernatural.”)
But that is all matter for another time. Here I do not want to argue about being. I have, rather, a very simple worry to confess about the competence of method—any method—to recognize its own boundaries. All method, after all, as the etymology of the word exquisitely shows, is an elective practice of cleaving to a particular path (met’-hodos), a labor of limiting oneself to a particular approach to a problem in order to achieve as precise an understanding of that problem as may be achieved from one perspective. But that means that method always remains only a perspective, however powerful it may be: a willful blindness to many things for the sake of seeing a few things with a special clarity. A man peering into a microscope has been vouchsafed a glimpse into realities that the naked eye could never see, but he may also fail to notice the large fire that has just started on the far side of his laboratory, near the only exit.
Modern experimental science began to coalesce into a general method with the rise of the mechanical philosophy and the shattering of the old Aristotelian fourfold structure of causality. That may be only an accident of history, in long retrospect; but, whatever the case, the magnificent force and fecundity of modern scientific method is in part the consequence of a conscious decision to eschew any explanation for any physical phenomenon that requires the invocation of final or formal causes. By thus prescinding from teleology and causative morphology, experimental science was allowed to devote itself unwaveringly to those material and efficient processes at work within any physical event (though here “material” and “efficient” no longer have the meaning they had in Aristotelian thought). In Daniel Dennett’s language, science learned to think in terms of “cranes” only, and entirely to discount the possibility of “sky-hooks.”
Even so, it would be worse than naïve to imagine that the sciences have thereby proved the nonexistence of final and formal causes. In fact, by bracketing such causes out of consideration, scientific method also rendered itself incapable of pronouncing upon any reality such causes might or might not explain. Now, of course, the typical reply to this observation (from the aforementioned Daniel Dennett, for instance) is to say, with some indignation, that modern science has in fact demonstrated the utter superfluity of final and formal causal explanations, because the sciences have shown that they do not need finality or formality to understand the processes they investigate.
That, however, is an empty tautology: Of course modern scientific method discovers the kind of reality it is specifically designed to discover; and even in cases where it finds its explanatory reserves overly taxed, it must presume that in future some sort of “mechanical” cause will be found to restore the balance, and so issue itself a promissory note to that effect. But, again, this may mean that it must also overlook realities that actually lie very near at hand, either quite open to investigation if another method could be found, or so obviously beyond investigation as to mark out the limits of scientific method with particular clarity.
Which brings me to the thylacine and the fossa.
The thylacine, if you do not know, was an apex predator once found in Australia, Tasmania, and New Guinea, of which some old film footage still exists, but which was rendered extinct some time last century. It was, for want of a better term, a marsupial wolf. Though only at most very distantly related, by very remote extraction, from some of the same ancestors as the placental mammalian canines of other lands, its skeletal shape, its behaviors, its movements, and so on were remarkably lupine. The fossa is another predator, happily not extinct—not yet, at any rate—and is an inhabitant of Madagascar. It is a viverrid (probably), a distant cousin of the mongoose, but it has a large number of felid traits; that is, it moves, hunts, and to a real degree looks like a cat, inside and out.
Now, I have heard evolutionary biologists speak about both animals on more than one occasion, and the usual explanations adduced for either animal’s morphological resemblance to species far removed from its own are drawn, to varying degrees, from genetics and convergent evolutionary theory. There are similar codes embedded deep in the labyrinths of the genetic material that thylacines and wolves, or fossas and cats, inherited from some amazingly ancient common ancestors. Or similar environmental pressures were exerted on the evolutionary processes of all the creatures involved, resulting in some very similar morphologies. Or both, really.
I am not qualified to pronounce on these things, though I have two melancholic molecular biologist friends who become vague and evasive when I raise the issue with them. One worries that, as the “classical conception of the gene” has begun to fall apart in recent decades, and the idea of genetics as a science of information flow, analogous to the reading of software programs, has been challenged by a more indeterministic view of genetic material, it is not exactly clear how genetic coding could prove so cohesive and unidirectional over such vast epochs. Organisms, he tells me, as systems, use genetic material in such various ways that “there is no such thing as a ‘gene for’ this or that.” So it would take some considerable run of improbable coincidences for two complex systems to evolve separately while employing the same material in such similar fashion.
The other approvingly quotes Gould’s famous assertion that, if the tape of life were wound back again to the time of the Burgess Shale and allowed to play forward again, it would arrive at totally different results. The notion that there is evolutionary convergence in certain details of physical development across species divisions—the shape of a wing, the mechanism of a cameral eye—makes good sense to him, but the independent full development of close morphological analogues like the timber wolf and the thylacine seems to strain his credulity. If evolution is a sort of “algorithmic” process of chance mutations, incredibly numerous and rare and unpredictable, selected by adventitious environmental conditions, and is a process moreover whose course is cumulative but not accumulative—progressive but not directed—then it is certainly surprising that genetic variation over millions of years under varying conditions in different regions could actually produce such similar results in such complex organic structures.
Not that either man suggests that the working theories are wrong. And I, for what it is worth, have no opinion in the matter whatsoever. I am not qualified to have an opinion. It simply strikes me as pleasing to imagine supplementing (or even underpinning) the genetic and the convergent explanations with the Platonic or Aristotelian suggestion that, perhaps, there is such a thing as the form of the wolf or the form of the cat—lupinity or felinity as such—that impresses itself upon the somewhat intractable material substrate according to the prevailing conditions in a given time or place. Then the existence of both a placental mammalian wolf and a marsupial wolf, born at the end of evolutionary genealogies separated by oceans for millions of years, seems hardly surprising at all. If nothing else, this notion is not much more incredible than the idea that there is, say, a sort of cat-shaped niche out there in certain ecosystems that environmental forces will inevitably cause to be filled. (Then again, maybe it all has something to do with the Great Chain of Being.)
That, however, is also not my point. I have no doubt that evolutionary biology has much to say, and will continue to find more to say, regarding these strange symmetries across discontinuities in the lineages of living things. My question really is one regarding method. If there were a case in which modern biological method came up against a reality that seemed to point towards orders of causality it could not logically investigate without altering its working premises radically, would it be able to recognize that it had reached its limit? Could it admit as much to itself, or tell us about it? It is an imprecise question, so open as perhaps to be vacuous, but I raise it just the same, because only when a method is conscious of what it cannot explain can it maintain a clear distinction between the knowledge it secures and the ideology it obeys.
David Bentley Hart is contributing editor of First Things. His most recent book is Atheist Delusions: The Christian Revolution and Its Fashionable Enemies (Yale University Press). His other “On the Square” articles can be found here.
Author's Note: This will be my final column On The Square. Beginning next year, I shall instead be contributing a regular column to the print edition of First Things (though I may make the occasional irregular contribution here). My sincere thanks to regular readers of these web-offerings (is that a proper term?), both friendly and hostile.
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Comments:
We often hear this meme promulgated, that scientists are too narrowly educated and their expertise is too specialized for their philosophical observations to be taken seriously. In fact, most scientists have at least as good an understanding of the Western philosophical and theological traditions as journalists, priests, lawyers, novelists or historians; and most have concluded that the humanities in general, and philosophy in particular, are simply not nearly as profound as the scientific disciplines.
Richard Dawkins' law of conservation of simplicity applies: "Obscurantism in an academic discipline expands to fill the vacuum of intrinsic simplicity." This column is a good example.
Thomas Kuhn's "Structure of Scientific Revolutions"? It is the best, eh?
A lazy scientist just wants an administrative job, a paycheck, and somebody to lord it over.
Can you demonstrate that? Scientifically?
... Modern science doesn't "reject" them, it must remain silent about them -- and does, whatever modern scienTISTS might pontificate about -- for the reasons that Hart brilliantly articulated.
Your remark is a perfect example of the tautology Dr Hart mentions above. Predictive of what? What is your method looking for, and so what is it able to recognize? You need to follow the argument, man. Anyway, Darwinian science invokes formal and final causes all the time, without admitting it. The one it calls 'information' (in-form-ation) and the other it calls either 'convergence' or 'utility' (usually a vague combination of both).
Let's say I'm an Aristotelian in 280 AD and I am magically whisked off to Australia and discover all sorts of amazing fauna. By an even more magical process, I am joined by an English biologist of the year 1900, one firmly attached to a more 'Baconian' view of proper biological method. Which of us is better prepared, by his scientific expectations, to predict that we will encounter some kind of wolf-like creature in the wild if we go looking? I submit that I, the ancient Aristotelian, enjoy a distinct advantage--predictively speaking.
"In fact, most scientists have at least as good an understanding of the Western philosophical and theological traditions as journalists, priests, lawyers, novelists or historians..."
Only someone who knows absolutely nothing about philosophy or theology could possibly believe that. Read Victor Strenger, Richard Dawkins, or even Stephen Hawking on philosophical issues and it becomes evident that these men can't even grasp the most fundamental issues or distinctions of philosophical logic. They don't have the training, and they don't have the subtlety of mind to know what they don't know.
I live most of my life among scientists, and most of them can't make sense of any question of abstract logic. They have very admirable gifts, most of them, but they hardly have an obvious capacity for deep thought.
The funny thing is that this column isn't about evolutionary science as such and has absolutely nothing to do with any question that natural science is able to answer. It's a pretty Wittgensteinian point in its own way, actually.
A former philosophy professor of mine, who was in the analytic philosophy group, described logical positivism to me as follows: "Everything we can know is either an a priori truth, or can be empirically deduced directly from a priori truths (all truths are either analytic or synthetic, in the logical positivist parlance). Everything else, is bulls**t."
In spite of the fact that W.V.O. Quine pretty well destroyed logical positivism back in his "Two Dogmas" article, the scientists Hart seems to have in mind strike me as being logical positivists, even if they wouldn't characterize themselves that way, and so tend to take a very narrow view of what we can know.
So, radical materialist scientists can be proud of their invincible ignorance about philosophy/theology and snipe at the absurdity of practitioners of those disciplines, and comments above can snipe at scientists, but none of the discussion really matters at all unless you first have an argument about what we can know, about what exists, i.e. "First Things".
Note, this is not an argument regarding scientific method as such, but about the current culture of the sciences. There is nothing wrong with a method being limited to a strictly circumscribed field of inquiry. That's what makes a good method fruitful. There is something desperately wrong, however, with--as I have said--confusing method with ontology.
On the other hand, if evolution is really so random, and we ourselves are a process of this randomness, then what basis do we have to trust our sensory apparatus? Aren't our senses then merely accidental byproducts of a movement that is meaningless? Why should we think they inform us of anything really worth knowing, much less about any sort of final answer?
So I think the kind of contemporary scientism you're talking about fails either way. It doesn't address the apparent consistencies OR its own position in the randomness it ascribes to nature. I think ultimately much of "science" is not a knowledge at all, but a kind of engineering or techne. Useful, certainly, but something different in kind that what Socrates was talking about.
For instance, in addition to showing that the universe is billions of years old (there goes the YEC narrative..), modern science shows that copious animal suffering - predation, violence, parasitism, and mass extinction - and hence what is typically labeled "natural evil," were part of the everyday fabric of the existence for millions of creatures and for millions upon millions of years in the natural world, long before human beings ever arrived on the scene. Indeed, evolution as a concept wouldn't make sense without such violent processes.
Hence the metaphysical narrative of Christianity, which posits a period of total heaven and Goodness on Earth before the emergence of human beings and the Fall, cannot be true, insofar as its beholden to the "Paradise->Paradise Lost -> Paradise Restored" shtick. Within our cosmic history, there was never any genuine, Good "paradise" to begin with. Science shows this.
Additionally, modern neuroscience, which operates at a very deep molecular level, shows that libertarian free will almost certainly doesn't exist. The molecules in the brain and in the peripheral nervous system always follow deterministic pathways, and there isn't a "break" in any of those pathways than can be attributed to the mysterious workings of some sort of human "soul." Ideologies such as Judaism and Christianity that takes libertarian free will as essential - say, for moral responsibility and for Hell as a concept - hence are almost certainly not true.
I meant to say they show no *special* capacity for deep thought. I didn't mean that they're any shallower than anyone else, just that they're no better equipped to philosophize than anyone else who hasn't tried to master the discipline. They think deeply in their own fields. So, for that matter, do master chefs. A chef is simply less likely to think he understands philosophical logic because he happens to know how to make a cake.
I should admit though that I shouldn't have been talking about all forms of Christianity, just those that proclaim the "Paradise Lost" theory and the existence of libertarian free will.
Thanks also for showing how materialists are basically fundamentalists in their understanding of Christian ideas of the Fall and sin. Of course, you no doubt know that they are confusing a material history with a spiritual allegory; but you have your tongue firmly planted in your cheek.
You, sir, are a master of the sardonic. Unless, of course, you're simply totally ignorant of the philosophical and theological traditions you refer to. But that can't be true, surely...
You see, the experience of freedom may be a primary datum. In which case, the mechanistic understanding of human experience may be a prima facie inadequate view. But, if you're a dogmatist materialist, you'll prefer the purely irrational argument that somehow neuroscience shows us freedom is an illusion. Like Dennett arguing that consciousness is an illusion (the single funniest claim ever made by a "philosopher").
No one here is arguing for YEC. In fact, as a Catholic, I probably have as much distaste or more for YEC as you do, because, not only do I think it's unscientific, but, moreover, it obscures the real meaning and intent of the Biblical text. Genesis is not meant to be read as a scientific treatise. Have a little faith in educated Christian believers. We aren't that stupid.
"Within our cosmic history, there was never any genuine, Good "paradise" to begin with. "
Conan, come on. That's not what Genesis is actually about. Genesis is, among other things, trying to explain the problem of evil. What does science have to say about that?
Again, I would ask that you give people the benefit of the doubt to some degree. Just because it is not written in the style of a modern scientific paper does not mean there isn't something to it. Leon Kass, who is a physician and a professor at the University of Chicago, thought it was worthwhile to write a book on Genesis a few years ago ("The Beginning of Wisdom") that is almost 800 pages long. I'm not saying that he shows Judaism to be demonstrably true, but I do think that if such a person decided to write such a book, and the University of Chicago Press decided it was worth publishing, then you need to do better than to propose that Genesis is patently false.
(Not to put too fine a point on it, but one might even go so far as to say that suggesting that the Bible is a mere prescientific fantasy or relic, something which ought to be ignored by every rational person, is itself a grave form of ignorance on the same level as or perhaps even worse than believing the Bible is supposed to be a literal work of geology or cosmology.)
As for this: "free will almost certainly doesn't exist" ... if free will does not exist, then the process by which you make such statements is itself predetermined and therefore not a reliable gauge of anything. I think scientists tend to avoid certain problems of self-reference.
Yet, regarding the non-mammalian "wolf," it is worth looking at Darwin's own words regarding the difference between how man thinks about improving domestic animal stock by picking the "best" animals to breed versus what happens in nature. In Chapter IV of Origin of Species, he states: "Man selects only for his own good, Nature only for that of the being which she tends."
Friday will probably no longer be my most anticipated day of the week.
Conan, quantum mechanics disproves determinism. This is a point that biologists (in their philosophical speculations) often seem to be unaware of. Quantum mechanics predicts only probability, and if there's a ten percent chance of rain this is consistent both with rain and no rain.
Prufrock comes to mind here:
“That is not what I meant at all;
That is not it, at all.”
Even though you are "not in the intelligent design camp," as you put it, I feel compelled to ask whether you have read either of Prof. Michael Behe's books critiquing Darwinian gradualism on the basis of the challenges presented by molecular biochemistry. His later book, Darwin's Black Box, examines the seeming inability of evolutionary biology to cope with Behe's argument that gradualism per Darwin, based on the "irreducible complexity" of a fairly large number of biomolecular structures and processes, is simply incapable of explaining the existence of blood clotting, cilia or flagella, to cite three examples from that book. Based solely on the evidence in that book, that no evolutionary biologist has been able to posit an answer that amounted more to hopeful arm-waving, it would appear that, for the supporters of gradualist evolution at any rate, the answer to your question is a resounding NO.
Pax et bonum,
Keith Töpfer
The first was an article in National Geographic on the new science of the Teenage Brain. It start off with an explanation on how teen age brains scans show a massive changes between the ages of 12 and 25. This was completely empirical. They explained how, previously, it was thought brains stopped developing at age six. They then get in to some behavioral experiments, with results that can be reproduced. The experiments and the post experiment conclusions are both reasonable. They then get in to complete philosophical speculation regarding the evolutionary imperatives which some scientists thought were the likely reasons these traits evolved. There were no empirical evidence offered for these speculations but they were reported as science.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/10/teenage-brains/dobbs-text/1
The second article in Vanity Fair was not about science per se but an interesting article on the plight of local government finances. It was, of course, well written and included interviewing details that made the article read like a novel. It gets in to the tragedy of the commons, the moral responsibilities of being a member of society and what it means to be in a society. When it came time for the article to investigate the root cause of the present delima, it makes a similar turn to natural philosophy, presented as science from a Doctor of neuroscience. He speculates that we are all hard wired by evolution for an environment of scarcity and how we are unable to control our impulses in our current environment of relative plenty. There was no mention of how dramatic increases in wealth were handled in Western Civilization up to about 50 years ago.
http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2011/11/michael-lewis-201111#gotopage7
(I'll set aside the "soul" issue for now, even though I still have no idea how an Aristotelian conception of the soul as "formal cause" safeguards us from concluding that determinism is true. Whether objects have Aristotelian forms or not, neuromolecules will still bump against neuromolecules, and from those biochemical interactions emerge things like thoughts and feelings. That's the key point: I am not in control of those biochemical interactions. At least with the Cartesian "ghost in the shell" conception I can understand how determinism could possibly be kept at bay, by interfering with those fundamental biochemical reactions. (Oh and Jim, for all practical purposes, determinism holds on the macroscopic level. That's why there's still a demand for chemical engineers, and that's why basketballs tend to follow a parabolic path when you shoot them.))
Re: Creation and Fall,
Where in heavens did I mention anything about the book of Genesis, let alone suggest that the book should be read non-allegorically? I fully agree with the allegorical reading. I am no Dawkins-acolyte.
I was referring solely to theological ideas, specifically to what I understood to be orthodox Christian understandings of creation and Fall, as explicated by prominent Christian theologians.
Here's Dr. Hart on the patristic understanding of the fall of man and its effects:
"It is a patristic notion (developed with extraordinary profundity by Maximus the Confessor) that humanity was created as the methorios (the boundary or frontier) between the physical and the spiritual realms, or as the priesthood of creation that unites earth to heaven, and that thus, in the fall of man, all of material existence was made subject to the dominion of death." (pg.84, Doors of the Sea)
So, AL and DP, I now await eagerly for you both to denounce Dr. Hart and patristic theologians such as Maximus the Confessor as "fundamentalists" who "comically misunderstand" the most basic theological ideas of creation and fall, since they appear to hold to much the same view of it as I do. I may not know much about theology, but I'm pretty sure that "patristic" =/= "Fundamentalist," and that anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
But whatever. Leaving aside the history of theology, let's not beat around the bush.
Here are the facts:
--Human beings have been around for about ~100,000 years or so
--Mass animal suffering significantly predates this, having gone on for millions of years
--No evil can come directly from God, understood to be Goodness Itself
Here is a highly plausible statement:
--Mass animal suffering for millions of years is an evil thing.
So, what accounts for the animal suffering? Do you agree with St. Maximus on the patristic notion that death was introduced into the world through the fall of man? But if so, how can death predate the emergence of man? Did the fall of man restructure all of cosmic history in accordance with death and decay? Did the fall of man lead to the cessation of God's intended timeline and to the creation of a new, less-authentic timeline (which includes a new, "fallen" history)? What exactly is going on here?
I am honestly interested in seeing how you address this puzzle.
Since you've read The Doors of the Sea, you might notice that Dr Hart, in that very same book, explicitly says that there was no fall from paradise in terrestrial, historical time. So maybe you have misunderstood the point he was making, or why he was referring to Maximus. Y' think?
If you're going to quote Dr Hart, could you actually do it in context? Yes, he points out what Maximus believed. He also goes on to say that obviously the 'Fall' is not an event that actually occurred within the frame of time we inhabit. It is not part of terrestrial history. This world, from beginning to end, is the fallen world. So, no, he does not share your understanding of creation and fall at all.
None of which matters, because the initial claims Conan made are so deeply confused (especially the neuroscience bit) that there's no serious argument to be had here.
So, here's a try in three parts:
1) The soul, in the tradition at issue, is not simply the conscious mind. It is the whole form and life of the corporeal totality. So the physical processes of the brain and the conscious states of the mind are both expressions of the one activity of the 'living soul'. No, your conscious mind does not root down into your molecules and instruct them to move; neither do their physical movements add up to consciousness or free choice. Rather, your conscious act of choosing and your brain's activity are a single inseparable expression of the freedom of the soul. This is not a hard idea to master. Stop thinking in terms of a linear progression from molecules to choices: nothing in the sciences validates such a view. This would be true even if we knew what consciousness is (and we definitely don't). The reason you're not getting this is that you're still thinking of the soul as just consciousness, and the body as a machine either controlled or not controlled by that consciousness. If you don't get this, I don't know what else to add.
2) Similarly, stop thinking of creation and fall as two moments within one uniform cosmic history, one which also includes you, me, Richard Nixon's visit to China, etc. We don't know how "Origenistic" Maximus's view of the matter may have been, but it is quite likely he thought of a heavenly aeon in which the fall occurred, of which this fallen world is a result. Whether that was Maximus's exact view, though, isn't important. What is important is that this does not involve the notion that the fall occurred temporally on the same continuum as the formation of the earth and the evolution of humanity. It does not occur on that timeline. On a Maximian view, at least logically, it is perfectly coherent to say that the fall caused death without implying that the fall or the 'beginning' of death are events within fallen time.
3) Whatever the case, Dr Hart definitely and explicitly does not hold the view of the fall that you seem to think he does. You have read your own expectations into that passage from The Doors of the Sea. You should therefore drop that aspect of your argument. In fact, you should just drop your argument altogether, because it isn't very good. The one thing you say that's true is that science can disprove the fundamentalist account of creation and the fall. Sure, but who cares? That has absolutely nothing to do with the column you're replying to.
Am I the only one who was thrilled to see this sentence near the beginning of Hart's article? Ha! (I speak as a fan and somewhat tongue-in-cheek.).
Allow me to make a comment regarding the deterministic brain molecules driving "you": they are causing repeating references to animal suffering, which I find both telling and interesting. Along this observation, may they consider this:
The various atheist dictatorships of the twentieth century were also deterministic, claimed to be based on "science", and when speaking about their goals liked to use phrases such as "historical inevitability". They did not believe that all the "human animals" in their possession were capable of making the evolutionary leap to the "new man" and the "new paradise". As a consequence, they caused a great amount of death and suffering.
Perhaps, if the winds are favourable, these deterministic molecules will stumble into a reflection on this all too often ignored period of recent molecular history.
Also, please allow me to congratulate Mr. Hart on a superb article. I'm sure your great uncle Aloysius smiles upon you from the Elysian heights.
@al
"At all"?? Really AL? You are being ridiculously belligerent. The point was that Dr. Hart, Maximus, and I all subscribe to the conception of the Fall of Man as that which, via Man's fall, ALL moral and physical corruption - death, in particular - was introduced into the world. We differ though on where rational human beings were when that happened....
"The fall of rational creation and the subjection of the cosmos to death is something that appears to us nowhere within the unbroken time of nature or history; we cannot search it out within the closed continuum of the wounded world; it belongs to another frame of time, another kind of time, one more real than the time of death." (pg.102)
....with Hart seemingly situating primordial Man in a different, more geniune timeline altogether. I must say straight out: Sans some serious philosophical analysis (particularly into the nature of time, what it would even mean to say that time is "wounded"/"fallen," and the metaphysical mechanics of falling from one, more genuine world into another), this idea is a piece of highly speculative speculation to which I cannot in good conscience give my intellectual assent. Even among trained philosophers and theologians, Dr Hart is the first Christian I have ever heard who has espoused this "different timeline" theory.
I think the answer is "yes"--that certain scientists are already turning again to Aristotelian formal and final causality precisely because of their scientific investigations. See my "Top Down, Bottom Up or Inside Out? Retrieving Aristotelian Causality in Contemporary Science" (http://www.nd.edu/Departments/Maritain/ti/dodds.htm); "Unlocking Divine Causality: Aquinas, Contemporary Science, and Divine Action," Angelicum 86 (2009) 67-86, and "Unlocking Divine Action: Contemporary Science and Thomas Aquinas" (forthcoming from The Cathholic University of America Press).
You need to read the patristic sources a little more closely. You'll find all sorts of Alexandrians who don't think of the Eden narrative as referring to this 'timeline'. Cappadocians too. Read Gregory of Nyssa on the creation of man. Where and when do you think he situates the fall? How about Gregory Nazianzen? What precisely did Maximus believe about it? None of them is theologically bound to the narrative you presume. Moving on, how about Evagrius, John Scotus Eriugena, and Meister Eckhart? If those are too exotic for you, leave them out. Among modern theologians, how about Hans Urs von Balthasar, Paul Evdokimov, or Olivier Clement? And so on.
You seem to think you know what the standard account is, but you're simply wrong. There has always been great variety on the matter.
Anyway, don't assume that you know what Hart thinks from reading that little book. It is not a systematics.
Note the phrasing of that quote: "The fall of rational creation." Not just "The fall of man." Do you think maybe you and Dr. Hart are not exactly talking about the same issue? Because I know you're not.
I also can think of a long list of theologians, ancient, medieval, and modern, who clearly or seemingly didn't think of the fall as happening "in" historical time.
But, still, as far as I can see, this whole line of argument has absolutely nothing to do with the article above. Your remarks about metaphysical stories was a misuse of the word metaphysical. Your remarks on neuroscience and determinism were simply silly. If you don't understand why the notion of the soul as the form of the body makes arguments like that meaningless, then I think you should go and read up on the matter a bit. More important, you need to read up as well on the best philosophy of mind out there today. There's a collection called The Waning of Materialism that's a little too analytic for me, but that would give you entree into the devastating critiques of identity theory out there today, and so of crude mechanistic determinism. You should also read Sir John Eccles' last two books. As much as he made the Dennetts of the world scream and whimper, he was the best brain scientist of the lat century.
2) By the way? You are utterly denying inter-disciplinary studies, and crossovers. Is it really true, that Biology, science, has no relevance whatsoever, to even our being? Does the success of science, help make the case for a naturalistic/materialistic ontology? So that science ... has relevance even for "being" and metaphysics. Do you likewise believe that Philosophy or theology, has no relevance for daily life?
3) By the way: though our genetic structure is not absolutely determined, it is of course largely determined. Do you really think it is say, a miraculous coincidence, a miracle, if your son happens to look somewhat like you?
Do the "same" genes express themselves differently at times? In particular, the direction our genes take ... changes a great deal, as they express themselves in different environments. Environments that tend over time to select this or that set of genes, and not another.
The gulf that opened up put the African Rift Valley to shame and I was dumbstruck.
What you call the 'different timeline theory' can be derived from the revelation that Adam and Eve were originally immortal. Although the specifics of immortality are a mystery, it does not necessarily mean that they lived in an infinite timeline that our imaginations tend to conjure. The possibility that they lived outside of time with God and the angels is a natural implication of their immortal status.
You're obviously very passionate about pursuing the Truth. Keep up the good fight.
Good article. I am in complete agreement.
I understand that your article is not really about evolutionary biology. But I would like to draw your attention to the interesting fact that perhaps the most passionate proponent of the significance of convergent evolution is Simon Conway Morris at Cambridge - who happens to be a Christian. Conway Morris' work is very instructive in its own right, and it serves as an example of a very prestigious scientist who nonetheless understands the limits of method. I don't know his full story, and I think he keeps that mostly private, but he began his career as an atheist and for at least the past ten years has been a Christian.
It's wonderful listening to his lectures (some are available free online). He's a firm Darwinian scientifically (as am I) but he knows the material explanation only goes so far. He accepts the immateriality of the mind, for example. Although he used to accept it, he firmly rejects Gould's Wonderful Life concept, and his books Crucible of Creation and Life's Solution are in part a refutation of Gould. But he's not refuting Gould in a creationist sort of way and, for example, he's an outspoken critic of Intelligent Design. He continues to publish mainstream research in evolutionary biology.
After reading Life's Solution, I was left with an impression of how ubiquitous convergence is. It's really a matter of nature continually finding similar "engineering solutions" to the same problems. We find it amazing, but it's just the way nature works. Perhaps Platonic forms are one way of looking at it, and perhaps they're true, but as a scientist (geologist), a Christian, and someone who respects philosophy, I say that invoking Platonic forms is much, less credible than "the idea that there is, say, a sort of cat-shaped niche out there in certain ecosystems that environmental forces will inevitably cause to be filled". Morris demonstrates that idea rather well. Given that material explanations of convergence are sufficient, I would prefer to avoid using Platonic forms in discussions of biology because that is very unhelpful apologetically. There are more important, hard to understand things to focus on, like the truth of the Resurrection, without confounding the discussion with certain ideas that (whatever their ongoing merit in other areas, which I accept) were conceived in a mental landscape constrained by Iron Age biology.
Just to be clear: Dr Hart does not believe that either. He does not believe in a literal Adam and Eve. Ask him if you don't believe me.
If, that is, this gets posted. The web-guardian seems to be stopping a lot of things from getting through.
Best,
Richard
Then you should be aware that orthodox Christian thought (and so folks like Dr. Hart or JRR Tolkien, following the tradition) posits two falls. Evil does not begin with the Adamic fall in Genesis. The Jewish and Christian position has never been that it does. In fact, St. Augustine of Hippo maintained that natural evil resulted, at least in significant part, from the pre-Adamic, angelic fall. It might help to read Plantinga's God, Freedom, and Evil or to read Tolkien's Silmarillion, which is, at its inception, a mythological engagement with Jewish and Christian theology regarding the pre-Adamic fall and its relevance for the cosmos. Though I'm no open theist, I think Gregory Boyd's God at War says some interesting things here. The point is that you seem to have very narrow and idiosyncratic reading of the Genesis narrative (especially in light of other passages in Hebrew Scriptures). And you seem rather strident in insisting that the patristics and Hart share it. But I've never read the Patristics or Hart in the way you suggest.
Moreover, Christians believe that the cross works its way backward and forward through time. Christ's sacrifice is not merely a temporal sacrifice but transcends temporal bounds. The Adamic fall can be construed in this way too. Your interpretation of the Patristics and Hart requires a view of time and lineal causation in matters spiritual and metaphysical that I suspect neither of them share. I submit you have given us an instance of eisegesis. There is more presupposition in your interpretation of these than you admit.
There are real problems with convergent evolution, you know. Engineering solutions to a finite set of problems still does not adequately explain extraordinary morphogenetic analogues like the skull of a timber wolf compared to the skull of a thylacine. "Convergence" is the name of a phenomenon whose mechanics we really do not understand very well, because physical ecological pressures still should not exert so absolutely determinative a shaping effect. This is why there will always be room to discuss the "information" involved in organic morphology. That is why it is pleasing to imagine (which is all this column says) supplementing the theory with a kind of Platonic idealism--not as an answer, but as an alternative perspective.


