I normally avoid documentaries that use questionable methods of Bible interpretation to promote the gay lifestyle as both natural and normative. For the Bible Tells Me So (2007), however, was not so easy to dismiss. Directed and co-written by Daniel Karslake, this manipulative yet compelling, slanted yet challenging documentary presents us not only with the expected attempts to reshape the Bible on a modern/postmodern lathe, but with the powerful, heart-breaking stories of five Christian, church-going families who are forced to deal with the reality of having an “out-of-the-closet” son or daughter.
Two of those stories featured families—that of openly gay Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson and that of former House Majority Leader Dick Gephardt—with celebrity status. But the one that carried the most resonance for me concerned an unknown middle-class family from the conservative Midwest. When the Reitans learn that their son Jake is gay, they at first refuse to accept his homosexuality and try to find ways to draw him out of the gay lifestyle. In the end, however, they not only accept and affirm Jake’s gay identity but join with him to petition the church to change its teaching on homosexuality and to accept gay unions as the equivalent of heterosexual marriage. Their activism on behalf of their son even leads them to spearhead a campaign against the teachings and ministry of James Dobson and Focus on the Family. (This time around, the enemy is not the Roman Catholic Church but the Protestant Religious Right.)
The documentary troubled me for many weeks, but I was able eventually to distance myself from it. That is, until I came face to face with a man (I will call him John) who had made some of the same difficult choices as the father of Jake Reitan. I met John at a religious retreat, and, after several hours of discussing the Christian faith and the often artificial barriers that we erect between denominations, he opened up and shared with me that his son was gay and living in a homosexual relationship. At first, John resisted his son’s lifestyle, but he eventually came to accept it and to defend it as a natural and acceptable choice. Though not an activist or a theological liberal, John slowly came to adopt a revisionist reading of scripture that would allow him to “un-sin” the homosexual practices of his son; he also came to believe that the church must embrace the choices of gays and lesbians, or it will lose not only the gay member but the family of that member as well.
In my discussion with John, I tried to make clear the distinction between the homosexual orientation (which is not, in itself, a sin) and the homosexual lifestyle (which is). I explained the full import of Paul’s teachings in Romans 1 and the helpful Catholic terminology that describes homosexuality, along with all sexual sin, as disordered desire. And I explained, as well, that though a thing might be “natural” (like a man’s hormonally induced desire to commit adultery or a deep-set, inbred propensity toward road rage), its naturalness does not therefore justify the act of adultery or murder.
I realize now that my arguments and explanations never really pierced to the root of the problem. Even if the Bible were not so clear in its defining of homosexuality (the behavior, not the orientation) as sin, the fact remains that all people whose consciences have not been seared know in their heart and their gut that it is morally wrong for two men or two women to have sexual relations. Yes, a very large number of people today suppress this knowledge, but then we all suppress our knowledge of sin when we want to do something or approve of something that we know is wrong.
No, the problem faced by John, by the Reitans, and by all Christian parents who learn that their son or daughter is gay is a much more practical one: What are we going to do? Shall we reject and disown our child? If we can’t do that, then what else can we do but accept their behavior? And if we accept their behavior, then must we not fight to make all of society—including, and especially, our church family—accept it as well? What other option is there?
The more I reflect on these difficult and painful questions—and let me make clear that John was a man of strong faith who loved his family, his church, and his God and who had struggled for many years with these questions—the more I come back to one simple answer. We must learn to follow Christ’s admonition to love the sinner but hate the sin. For too long the church has allowed its righteous hatred of the sin of homosexuality to morph into a hatred (and fear) of the homosexual himself. We have held strong to God’s moral standards, but in doing so we have lost our compassion for those held in the grip of a disordered desire. Those who struggle with a gay or lesbian orientation have feared that if they shared their struggles, they would be cast out of the church and treated as pariahs. And, in many cases, their fears have been justified.
Alas, over the last several decades, the church, in trying to make up for her lack of compassion and Christ-like love, has overcompensated. Today, many families and churches have allowed their commendable love for the sinner to morph into an acceptance and even a love for the sin itself. Those in the former group lack a full understanding of Christ’s mercy and forgiveness, seen so powerfully in his insistence on eating in the homes of prostitutes and tax collectors. Those in the latter group lack a full understanding of the true nature of sin. When we engage in sin we are not just breaking a societal code or offending refined sensibilities; we are living and acting in rebellion against our Creator and his desire for our lives. And when we do that, we inevitably hurt ourselves and pervert our nature.
Some argue that it is impossible to love the sinner while hating the sin, but C. S. Lewis, in Mere Christianity, has disabused us of that argument. We all know how to love the sinner and hate the sin, for we do it every day—to ourselves. I hate the sinful things that I do, yet I continue to love myself. Indeed, the reason I hate my sinful behaviors is because I know that they are preventing me from being the person I should be, that noble person that I am in those fleeting moments when I conform to the image for which God intended me.
A Christian father can (and should) love and accept his gay son while simultaneously expressing his disapproval of his son’s sexual choices—but he can only do so if he understands 1) that his son is not “gay” in the same sense that he is male; 2) that his orientation does not define him as an individual; and 3) that his participation in the gay lifestyle is drawing him away from rather than towards his true identity and purpose. The Christian father must reach out, be patient, listen, and love, but he must not make the mistake of loving his son’s gayness as a thing in itself.
The wife who seeks to reconcile herself with her adulterous husband will not do so by accepting and embracing him as an adulterer. Rather she must accept and embrace him as a man of value and worth who has been turned from his proper course by the disordered desire of adultery. Alcoholics Anonymous has enriched the world with its 12-step programs, but I wish that instead of teaching their members to say, “I am Bob and I am an alcoholic,” they taught them to say, “I am Bob, and I am a man who has fallen prey to alcoholism.” The great missionary doctor Paul Brand helped teach us to refer to people with leprosy as leprosy patients rather than as lepers (no one refers to cancer patients as “cancers”).
Just so we would be better able to combine hatred for sin with love for the sinner if we thought of homosexuals not as gays and lesbians but as men and women made in the image of God who are struggling with a gay or lesbian orientation. We live in a fallen world, and the fact of that matter is that we are all afflicted by some form of physical, mental, or spiritual brokenness. We do ourselves and our loved ones no favors if we define ourselves or allow others to define us by that brokenness.
Christ extended unconditional love to the woman caught in adultery, but he also instructed her to leave her life of sin. By so doing, Christ did not condemn her, but offered her the possibility of freedom from her life of sin. Christ’s mission was to rescue the lost, not affirm them in their sin or label them by their sinful choices. Again, we hate the sins of those we love not because we are prudes and hypocrites but because in our love we would see them set free from all that would turn them aside from growing into the man or woman God created them to be.
The good father rejoices when his prodigal son returns, not because the son has chosen a sinful lifestyle but because he has left that lifestyle and come home. Had his son never made the choice to return, the father would have continued to love him and accept him as his son. Indeed, the father was the one who allowed him to leave in the first place and even provided him with funds. He grieved that the son made poor use of those funds, and he certainly did not affirm his poor choices, but he continued to love him nonetheless.
In Mere Christianity, Lewis reminds us that the reason Christ instructs us not to judge is because we do not know what choices we would have made had we been faced with the same psychological makeup and the same temptations as the sinner we are tempted to judge. The admonition not to judge does not imply that sin does not exist or that all actions are right actions, but that we can never know from the inside what struggles another person is really facing. There but for the grace of God go I.
Even so, the father must not stand in self-righteous judgment over his gay son, for he does not know how he would have fared had he been burdened with the same disordered desires as his son. Nevertheless, he must not allow Christ’s commandment not to judge (Matthew 7:1-5) to take the place of his high call to moral purity (Matthew 5:17-47). We do our gay sons and daughters no favor if we cut them adrift in a world of moral relativism where black is white and white is black. Let us instead make clear the binding nature of the moral law while reaching out our hands in compassion and gentleness, seeking to understand the struggles they are facing, and weeping over their poor choices even as Jesus wept over his beloved city of Jerusalem.
Louis Markos, professor in English and scholar in residence at Houston Baptist University, holds the Robert H. Ray Chair in Humanities. His most recent book is On the Shoulders of Hobbits: The Road to Virtue with Tolkien and Lewis.
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"Judge not" doesn't count: that's an issue of judicial action (to make an halakhic judgment), and must be interpreted in the context of the rabbinical claim that one must judge (justly) (Mishnah Pirkei Avot, 1.1). It has nothing to do with an emotional or attitudinal response to a sinner.
The story of the woman caught in adultery doesn't count, since (1) it is, strictly speaking, extra-canonical and (2) Jesus draws no conclusions about emotions: "neither do I condemn you". As in the "judge not" saying, Jesus refuses to carry out the rabbinical act of (halakhic) judgment.
I simply want to know: what is the authorization (in the gospels, at least) of this cliché? Why am I as a Christian required to assent to this alleged principle?
1.) As to your first concern, the author is defending his point from the traditional Judeo-Christian interpretation of Scripture. If read with the eyes of the Church, the author's statement is true in that traditionally, the Church has held sexual relations between people of the same sex to be immoral. So, depending on your theological and ecclesial outlook, his statement is theological "fact" or a convenient assumption.
2.) On the second comment: "his son is not 'gay' in the same sense that he is male" the author is speaking to the distinction between the son's nature, which is human and male, and his sexual orientation, which is not an existential fact but an expression of how the individual chooses to express his love for another human being. The author elucidates his stance by drawing an analogy between being an alcoholic and being a homosexual. So, John Smith is not a gay man so much as he struggles with homosexuality just as Fred Fredrickson is not an alcoholic so much as someone who struggles with alcoholism.
But alas, there is a strange paradox at work here. One the one hand we are coerced into feeling profoundly sorry for people who finally have to "give in" to the reality that they have these feelings; yet on the other we are also supposed to affirm there is nothing difficult or unnatural about this way of life and that any resistance to it is from the "outside" so to speak, from the culture. It seems to me it can't be both. For some people, clearly this must be something that if they could they would change immediately. Imagine you're straight and all of a sudden in your forties you start noticing these feelings grow stronger and stronger. Personally I'd go crazy trying to stop them. It would destroy my world. Yet I'd be told no this natural. There is something profoundly incorrect in this logic.
And finally, life is hard. Christ never once intimated that satisfying worldly desires was the path to salvation, not once. He was, is, a deeply caring person but also not a softy. We have to love as strongly and as generously as we caution and warn and preach.
Some additional thoughts. Not all members of the "gay" community think that same sex marriage is a good idea. The numbers of those taking advantage of it (where available) has been low (here, and in Europe). They are suffering similar rates of divorce. The rates of marriage in those northern European countries where gay marriage or civil unions have been allowed have plummeted, leading one Dutch newspaper to headline the "death of marriage". Out of wedlock births have risen dramatically as well, up to 40% in some of those countries. And their "rights" seem to count more than the rights of others with respect to free association in the conduct of religious activities or personal businesses.
So you can't find the phrase. But you can find the requirement to each part of the conjunct. And the rules of inference would make this a valid one.
To borrow from Lewis . . . what do they teach in the schools these days . . .
Does God hate people who do iniquity? Several Old Testament verses indicate that God hates those who do evil: Psalm 5:5, Psalm 11:5, Lev 20:23, Prov 6:16-19, Hosea 9:15.
"Sinners", not "sins", suffer the wrath of God. John the Baptist said, "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him" (John 3:36, ESV).
The Apostle Paul in his grand treatise on salvation by grace through faith in Eph 2:1-10 tells us that before being made alive together with Christ, "...we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind" (Eph 2:3, ESV).
The Apostle Paul tells us quite forcefully in 1 Corinthians 5:1-13 that sexual immorality defiles the church and that we are not to associate with a sexually immoral person who is inside the church. As a matter of fact, Paul states in verse 13b: "Purge the evil person from among you" (ESV).
I believe this article to be at odds with clear biblical teachings on the wrath of God toward "sinners," not "sins," and on how Christians are to respond to unrepentant people inside the church.
To Christians who take a literal reading of Scripture regarding what is permissible grounds for divorce and remarriage (along with marriage to unbelievers), would you accept your son's new wife into your home if she had been previously married and divorced? Would you accept your daughter's husband into your home if he were a Jew or a Mormon (or, depending on your Protestant leanings, even a Catholic)?
Thomas Murray writes: "Their goal is ... but the destruction of what had been normative human social behavior. "
I suppose that is true for a few nutty radicals. Most of us are seeking legal gay marriage because we wish to adopt the more conservative values of our heterosexual friends and family. We're eschewing promiscuity and transient relationships in favor of stability and longevity. This is a bad thing?
So show how "hate the sinner and love the sinner" is a "necessary entailment," etc.
@jason taylor
It so happens that I have struggled with one of the other "natural" sins that Mr. Markos mentions: road rage. Do I "love myself" qua sinner? I don't think so. Loving myself--when I fall into this sin--requires that, having earnestly repented, I seek the Holy Spirit's aid in overcoming it. In short, having been justified, I must also be sanctified. I am only "lovable" if I am saved by the justifying and sanctifying grace of God.
So with, say, an adulterer. Ought I love the adulterer? Why? To what end? I condemn both the sin, and point out to him that if he does not repent, he will be damned, condemned by God. (See the comments by Edward Hodge.) He is already condemned, and will suffer the eternal consequences of that condemnation if he is not justified through the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
Finally, if we love the sinner, then what is the point of the gospel? There is no "good news," if there is not first the "bad news": you (me, everyone) are (is) condemned. We are damned (Romans 1:18 through Romans 3:20). No wonder people think they can do whatever they want, and still "go to heaven." We keep telling them God loves the sinner. But if God loves the sinner, then why do we need the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ? Why do we need to be justified? Why do we need to be sanctified?
Didn't your parents ever say to you: "I don't *enjoy* having to punish you"? They still punished you.
That God takes no pleasure in doing it, does *not* change God's *objective* attitude toward the sinner: the sinner is condemned, and will suffer eternal damnation if he does not repent, place himself under Christ's propitiatory sacrifice (a sacrifice that propitiates *wrath*), and accepts both justification and sanctification.
Peter's message of 1.11.2013 | 11:19am raises excellent questions. What does it mean in *practical* terms to love a gay person and hate his or her sins?
Louis Markos says: "We do our gay sons and daughters no favor if we cut them adrift in a world of moral relativism where black is white and white is black. "
All the moral disagreements in the world don't add up to "moral relativism." Disagreeing about what is right and wrong is not the same thing as believing there really is no such *thing* as right and wrong.
Extra-canonical in what sense? I'm aware of the footnotes, but it was accepted as canonical is the same sense that every other part of the Gospel of John was accepted as canonical, settled upon by the early Church by the fourth Century and affirmed at the Council of Trent.
The story of course has paramount wisdom to shed on this particular conversation and should not be so easily dismissed here.
Part of the divisive tone of the entire debate is because some "facts" are not allowed to be voiced. That, my fellow citizens in Christ, is the corner stone of tyranny. Answers to the questions Peter makes about family relationships and etiquette might be addressed if those seeking change would allow all ideas to be voiced. Instead, we experience one media-driven throw down after another like the Rev. Louie Giglio “disinvitation” to President Obama’s inauguration.
As Chesterton said, "We do not know what we are doing...because we do not know what we are undoing."
Remember whereas as men and women risk a baby being produced, they are excluded from the possibility and therefore do not have this limit or threat placed before them. This is why some people have called it a solution looking for a problem. Gay people don't need to stay together because inspite of their fertility can not reproduce together, unite blood lines, unite for real. There is therefore very little outside and even less inside pressure to stay monogamous. And the research bears out these findings.
David Nickol, while I think that your posts along this line typically stem from a concern for the effect such terminology will have on young people - and I share that concern - I think the language that Mr. Markos used here was much more careful than your summary, and he admirably expanded upon what he meant in a gentle and thoughtful manner for all to read.
Let's diffuse the issue even further by pointing out that - in this forum - you think that many of us are self-deluded and our consciences wildly off-base as well...
What does the concept of 'primary of conscience' mean to you if by saying I think a person's moral sense is wrong in some area, I'm by that very act violating their right to have one? Where, then, *does* dialog take place? You are free ultimately to continue to act in accordance with your conscience - anything further is sliding towards our culture's desire to not have to hear that others disagree.
The notion that the essential building block of human culture, the oldest and most important of our institutions, can be altered by the state that depends upon it for its ultimate existence is not only an absurdity that only liberalism could entertain but also a position of supreme arrogance and indifference to reason.
But we're told that Christ desires to save "sinners", not "sins." "While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." [Rom 5:8] So the relationship seems clear enough that one could just as easily point out that God loves "sinners" - though that love is not directed towards their acts. That's our pattern to follow.
And clearly one has to engage and welcome the *person* to some degree in order to do so. Jesus caused scandal by associating with sinners and even entering into their homes.
Ultimately we must affirm Jesus's response to the woman caught in adultery. I'm not a Church lawyer here, but surely St. Paul's admonition in [1 Corinthians 5:1-13] is more directed towards a persistent, public unrepentant, and the last thing you do, not the first.
Yes, the radicals are, perhaps, nutty, but they are the ones getting the press and pushing the agenda, unfortunately painting the entire community with a negative brush.
While eschewing promiscuity and transient relationships is a good thing, there is data from Europe (where these marriages and civil unions have been going on for many more years - 1989 (Denmark), 1993 (Norway), and 1995 (Sweden) for example - that points to the conclusion that this is not necessarily the result.
A Stockholm University study in 2004 showed that in Norway, male same-sex marriages are 50 percent more likely to end in divorce than heterosexual marriages, and female same-sex marriages are an astonishing 167 percent more likely to be dissolved. In Sweden, the divorce risk for male-male partnerships is 50 percent higher than for heterosexual marriages, and the divorce risk for female partnerships is nearly double that for men. This should not be surprising: In the United States, women request approximately two-thirds of divorces in all forms of relationships — and have done so since the start of the 19th century — so it reasonably follows that relationships in which both partners are women are more likely to include someone who wishes to exit.
This argument confuses me when I hear it. Presumably all those goods can be pursued independent of government recognition of marriage. Indeed, the Catholic view is that the couple marries themselves, not the priest and certainly not the government. Yet, though I have argued against promiscuity in its own right with gays, that is independent of whatever other disagreements we might have, I have yet to meet one who makes such opposition central to their world view. No doubt, there are many. But I'm guessing those who do, don't need a piece of paper from the city hall to get them there.
I suspect Mr. Bradshaw knows this, but maybe he'll fill in the hole in his argument for me.
I shouldn't have bothered bring up the "canonicity" of the woman-caught-in-adultery story. I was trying to address the dominical authority of the saying, and brought in a tangential issue. David Nickol at 2:05 pm made my general point much better.
In any case, I have already addressed the *content* of the story: it is not about "loving the sinner," it is about Jesus refusing to exercise rabbinical (what would eventually be called, "halakhic") judgment. It simply confirms the content of the saying, "Judge not".
I repeat two key points: don't claim dominical authority for invented shibboleths. (I take this to be Mr. Nickol's point.)
Secondly, and more importantly: "hate the sin and love the sinner" intellectually sabotages the *entire edifice of the gospel*:
1. We are and will be under divine judgment.
2. If we pursue our own lives, our own agenda, we will be eternally damned.
3. Eternal damnation is the eschatological consequence of the divine *wrath* against the sin *of the sinner*.
4. Only faith in Jesus Christ can evoke God's justifying grace (this can be understood in a classical Protestant, or Catholic, or Orthodox sense). Justification is of course tied to sanctification (again, understood in somewhat different ways among the 3 traditions).
I repeat: all this only makes sense if we Christianly affirm God's WRATH against the sin and THE SINNER.
I will offer a hypothesis: what you describe is the internal dialogue of a mothers and fathers who have trouble carrying on in a matrix of emotional tension. Other people manage this. I could (until her death two years ago) have introduced you to a proximate relation who coped for 16 years with an adulterous husband and for 30-odd years with an alcoholic daughter (given also to sexual transgression). She did not do to well with it, but it would never have occurred to her to petition the Episcopal Church on behalf of Tomcat Liberation or Drunk Liberation. People need to have a certain critical distance from their children and not let those children push them around. That understanding has been lost in recent years.
You say: "Let's diffuse the issue even further by pointing out that - in this forum - you think that many of us are self-deluded and our consciences wildly off-base as well..."
Have I ever said such a thing? I disagree frequently with people in this forum. I think that many are wrong a great deal of the time. It is self-evident that when you disagree with someone, you think they are wrong and you are right.
But I don't believe I have ever said on any issue of morality or faith that I am right, deep down everybody *knows* I am right, and anyone who says otherwise is lying or self-deluded. I may have very strong opinions, but there is very little that I would claim to *know* with absolute certainty.
There is a huge difference between saying, "You're wrong," or "I think you are wrong," and saying, "You are wrong and you know it, and you're deluding yourself, or you conscience or intellect is 'seared.'"
A great deal of what I write can be boiled down to, "Hey, don't be so sure. There really are at least two sides to this issue."
Jesus told his disciples to leave their fathers and mothers behind to follow him. This is hard—very hard indeed. But we are all called upon to bear our crosses. Those parents who choose *not* to “leave behind” the depraved child (the one openly living in sin, rejecting Truth, defending evil with excuses/wicked dogma), teach, by their actions (attending pagan “weddings,” letting the lover spend the night, etc.) the innocent (the younger siblings, grandchildren, et al.) that evil is good.
We’re very good at finding ways to assuage our consciences when they conflict with temptation and few of us can, like Jesus, sit down with sinners without being influenced by their self-justifying rationales. When the sinner is not repentant—the harlots and tax collectors Jesus ate with presumably were—we must be careful lest we fall prey to our own weakness, and fail in our obligation to teach the faith to our children, and incur the final, permanent exile.
I share the same personal experience - apart from a church that teaches with authority on moral truths, I may not even be sure of that much.
[David Nickol] There is a huge difference between saying, "You're wrong," or "I think you are wrong," and saying, "You are wrong and you know it, and you're deluding yourself, or you conscience or intellect is 'seared.'"
What do you think of St. Paul writing about the interior law written on the heart, Romans 2:15 for example? Or when he writes, "...having become callous, they have given themselves over... [Ephesians 4:19]



Is this actually a fact, or rather a convenient assumption for the author?
Also:
"his son is not “gay” in the same sense that he is male"
What does this mean, apart from the obvious note that gender is not the same as sexual orientation?