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On this episode of the First Things Podcast:

1:10 Senior editor Mark Bauerlein explains how classic hardboiled detective novels turn boys into men. And he does it while maintaining the lines between high culture, popular culture, and mass culture.

28:40 Associate editor Julia Yost talks to deputy editor Elliot Milco about the buzzy new HBO series Westworld. What is producer Jonathan Nolan trying to tell us about human nature? And video games? And porn? And prestige-drama fan theories?

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