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The latest installment in an ongoing interview series with senior editor Mark Bauerlein. In this episode, Mark is joined by Dana Gioia to discuss John Donne, Gerard Manley Hopkins, Elizabeth Jennings, and Gioia's latest collection of essays, The Catholic Writer Today.

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