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Editor R. R. Reno is joined by Elbridge Colby to talk about his article “The Morality of a Strategy of Denial” from the October 2022 issue. They discuss America, China, and the morality of a realist foreign policy as considered in Colby's book, The Strategy of Denial: American Defense in an Age of Great Power Conflict.

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