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The latest installment of an ongoing interview series with contributing editor Mark Bauerlein. Rusty Reno joins in to discuss his piece in the August/September issue of First Things, “Pride Month,” as well as Matthew Schmitz's recent piece, “The Fall of Pride.”

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Music by Jack Bauerlein.

Image by Germán Saucedo.

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