Betrand Russell, famous for his agnostic views as much as for his theories on logic, was once asked how he would answer if he turned out to be wrong about God. Russell was delighted with the question and answered, “Why, I should say, ‘God, you gave us insufficient evidence.’”
I suspect that upon their meeting, God corrected the ol’ Brit, showing how the evidence was there and that Russell had simply chosen to ignore it. But it does raise the question of why different people when presented with much the same evidence, come to such varying conclusions about the existence of God.
Presumably, rational people weigh the evidence of God’s existence or non-existence in order to determine the probability of one being more likely than another and proceed from there. After all, since we can’t know the answer with absolute certainty, we have to base it on our best probabilistic assumption.
But how can we determine what is more likely when applied to an issue such as the ontological status of God? That is the question British theoretical physicist Stephen Urwin attempts to answer in his book, The Probability of God.
By applying Bayesian probabilities, a statistical method devised by eighteenth-century Presbyterian minister and mathematician Thomas Bayes, Urwin attempts to determine the probability of God’s existence. Since 50-50 represents “maximum ignorance,” Unwin begins with a 50 percent probability that God exists (or 50 percent probability that God <em>does not</em> exist) and then applies it to the following modified Bayesian theorem:

The probability of God’s existence after the evidence is considered is a function of the probability before times D (“Divine Indicator Scale”):
10 indicates the evidence is 10 times as likely to be produced if God exists
2 is two times as likely if God exists
1 is neutral
0.5 is moderately more likely if God does not exist
0.1 is much more likely if God does not exist
Unwin then uses the following lines of evidence and applies his own, admittedly subjective, figures for their likelihood:
Recognition of goodness (D = 10)
Existence of moral evil (D = 0.5)
Existence of natural evil (D = 0.1)
Intra-natural miracles (e.g., a friend recovers from an illness after you have prayed for him) (D = 2)
Extra-natural miracles (e.g., someone who is dead is brought back to life) (D = 1)
Religious experiences (D = 2)
Plugging these figures into the above formula (in sequence, where the P after figure for the first computation is used for the P before figure in the second computation, and so on for all six Ds), Unwin arrives at the conclusion that the probability that God exists is 67 percent.
While I generally agree with Unwin’s assessment, my own calculations would be slightly different:
Recognition of goodness (D = 10) — I agree that the existence of goodness is more probable in a world in which God exists.
Existence of moral evil (D = 1) — I believe that the existence of evil is a neutral factor in regards to God’s existence. As Alvin Plantinga shows with his “free will defense” argument, moral evil is just as probable in a world in which God exists as it would be in a world in which He didn’t.
Existence of natural evil (D = 1) — Since “transworld depravity” could apply to nonhuman moral agents, Plantinga’s argument still applies.
Intra-natural miracles (D = 2) — I’ve personally had a sufficient number of these types of experiences to believe that it is two times as likely that they are divine actions rather than coincidences. Since the mathematical probability of them being coincidences are impossibly high, though not outside the realm of possibility, I can only rate this a 2 rather than a 10.
Extra-natural miracles (D = 2) — I would put them in the same category as the ones above.
Religious experiences (D = 2) — I give my personal religious experiences the same weight as I did the intra-natural miracles.
When I plug these number into the formula (fortunately, Urwin provides a calculator) I come up with the probability that God exist to be 99 percent. Even if I had started with the presumption that there was a 98 percent chance that God does not exist, when I factor in the evidence it still puts the probability at 62 percent. Clearly, based on my interpretation of the evidence, it would be more reasonable for me to believe that God exists than to doubt it.
My actual confidence that God exist is higher than 99 percent, so while the formula is useful, it is not exact.
[Note: By using Urwin's calculator, we can perform this analysis based on any seven lines of evidence. We just assign each a designator (E1 - E7) and plug them in to come up with the probability.]
Addendum & Objections
Let me clarify that this argument is not intended to be used as a proof of God’s existence. The sole intention is to put in quantifiable terms the probabilities that we should form a belief about such a Being’s existence. In other words, this is not an ontological proof but a means of justifying a particular epistemic stance toward the idea of the existence or non-existence of a deity.
The argument is that starting from an epistemically neutral point (50 percent/50 percent), we can factor in specific evidence for the existence or non-existence of a deity. After evaluating each line of evidence, we can determine if it is more or less likely that it would entail the existence of God.
The numbers we assign are not completely objective (since we don’t have an objective standard to compare them to) but neither are they assigned arbitrarily. For example, the claim that a specific piece of evidence is two times (.2) more likely to be true if God exists does not mean that it is the only possible explanation. It is simply stating that from a neutral and objective viewpoint, it would be more likely to have occurred if a God exists then if he doesn’t.
The lines of evidence that Unwin presents are, of course, not the only ones that we could use. If better evidence should be considered we could take that into account also. We could keep plugging in numbers to this formula for every criterion that we deem important. My contention, and the reason for the post, is that the more evidence we consider the more the probability of God’s existence increases above the 50 percent point. If my point is correct it would mean that it is more rational to believe in the existence of God (in the purely theistic sense) than to disbelieve it.
I’ll try to answer some of the more specific objections that might arise:
If good exists, there is necessarily the possibility of evil as the absence of good.; Neither good nor evil could be defined if the other did not exist.
The existence of evil has very little to do with the argument at hand. As philosopher Alvin Plantinga shows, the existence of evil is as possible in a world where God exists as in one where he does not. Some people might still claim that the appearance of evil tilts the scales in favor of the non-existence of God. To make that claim, however, they must first refute Plantinga’s argument.
Your choice of criteria is totally arbitrary. What about D (pretty flowers) = 145 or D (this beer is stale) = 0.2
My ratings are subjective but not arbitrary. D (pretty flowers) would imply the existence of an aesthetic sense and might raise the number above neutral. D (stale beer), on the other hand, would be neutral in regards to God’s existence. We could have taste buds and stale beer in a world without a deity.
No matter how much evidence is provided, it seems to me that you still decide whether or not you want to believe the evidence. Didn’t Nieztche state something along the lines of “Now it is our preference that decides against Christianity, and not arguments”?
Exactly!
One problem that I see with this approach is that if I start from a 50-50 prior probability, I should state which god am I talking about. If I’m going to be totally “neutral” with respect to the triune God of the Bible, I should also be “neutral” with respect Allah, Zeus, Loki, Baal, and every other god I can think of. I would have to calculate the probabilities for all these gods. What do I do with those probabilities? Do I just pick the one that gives me the highest posterior probability?
The short answer: yes.
You realize, of course, that this entire argument is based on a false dilemma, right? Either God (i.e. the Christian God) exists, or He does not, according to your argument.
That’s not what my argument says at all. I’m saying that based on the evidence I have at hand, I have more reason to form a belief that the Christian God exists than I do to form a belief that he doesn’t.
It completely rules out any non-Christian God possibility, as well as various polytheist possibilities. But even granting your either-or assumption, the logic is flawed anyway, insofar as it arbitrarily assigns numerical values to very subjective things. You can’t just do that where it suits you.
Again, I should point out that this is not an ontological proof. And subjective is not the same as arbitrary.
It should be noted that the 50 percent prior probability is completely without base. No one would assign a 50 percent probability to an entity without some reason to do so, and since the reasons Urwin gives add their own probability, I’m not sure what he used to justify 50 percent.
Urwin uses 50 percent/50 percent because it is a mathematically neutral starting point.





August 18th, 2010 | 2:18 am
“My contention, and the reason for the post, is that the more evidence we consider the more the probability of God’s existence increases above the 50 percent point. If my point is correct it would mean that it is more rational to believe in the existence of God (in the purely theistic sense) than to disbelieve it.”
Kewl. A probabilistic proof to demonstrate that it’s rational to believe in God.
Is there a corollary here somewhere? Something like:
It’s irrational to not believe in God.
or
The odds are against you if you don’t believe (in) God.
P.S. G.R.E.A.T. POST!
August 18th, 2010 | 9:43 am
Richard Swinburne did this in “The Existence of God” in 1979. Did Unwin acknowledge it?
August 18th, 2010 | 10:02 am
I have a simple problem with this consideration as I do with many of the probabilistic arguments about theological issues. I can sum it up best by noting that if the probability of a particular event is greater than zero then it _does_ happen no matter how small that probability is. I suspect that probabilistic arguments about theological issues are in the end meaningless.
That said, I am a believer, a theist. I also believe there I get there by evidence starting with the simple observation that I am not God.
I am deeply puzzled by those who believe that we are nothing more than deterministic organized collections of atoms, as suggested by Carl Sagan, also believe that the question of God can have a meaning for them. Fortunately, that is a subset of atheists, so there are plenty with whom to have interesting conversations.
August 18th, 2010 | 11:26 am
To borrow a thought from G.K. Chesterton, I would find it much more interesting if God wrote a book with the title of “The Probability of the Existence of Steve Unwin”….
August 18th, 2010 | 11:34 am
Is there a difference between *existence* of evil (whether natural or moral) and *recognition* of evil? Say a hurricane destroys my house. It seems to me that a world with house-destroying capacity is neutral to the existence of God. It is just as probable that a world without God would include this capacity (since we have no way of knowing what such a world requires from God’s perspective–maybe God doesn’t intend for us to have houses) as that it would not.
What is not neutral is the *recognition* that the capacity of a brute nature to undo all hard efforts to improve life (building a house being one way to improve life) is “evil”. I do not see how a world without God can account for the *recognition* of natural evil. Why call it evil, if the only standard is brute nature? I would hold the same for *recognition* of *moral* evil. Without an assumption of God, it makes no sense to describe, say, the murder of a child by a predator as *evil.* Yes, it is undesirable. But what makes it undesirable?
Thus, changing “existence of moral/natural evil” to “recognition of moral/natural evil” I would give a D value of at least “2″ to both.
August 18th, 2010 | 12:14 pm
The sole intention is to put in quantifiable terms the probabilities that we should form a belief about such a Being’s existence.
God is not “a” being. God is being itself. How does one prove proof itself? We are necessarily in the realm of self-evidence and the limits of reason.
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1002.htm
August 18th, 2010 | 12:58 pm
What shall we say to the man who endured much trouble in his life, his house destroyed in a tornado, he looses his job, and he is diagnosed with cancer AND contract a painful case of shingles on top of everything else?
When asked by a reporter, If all this evil heaped upon him made him think that the existence of God were improbable, he replied, “On the contrary! All this shows that He exists, and He’s out to get me!”
Existence of natural evil (D = 20)
August 18th, 2010 | 2:29 pm
What’s the probability that an atheist won’t show up on this thread and contest the argument presented?
August 18th, 2010 | 10:17 pm
The existence of God is extremely probable, but many who observe extreme probability for God believe it is all a grand illusion. An increasing number of leading scientists believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and those who don’t believe often have reasons other than supposed lack of evidence for not believing what they see. To see what leading scientists say about what they observe about the precise origins of the universe and life, but why some refuse to believe in God anyway, see Intelligent Design vs. Evolution — The Miracle of Intelligent Design.
August 18th, 2010 | 10:44 pm
Joe Carter: As philosopher Alvin Plantinga shows, the existence of evil is as possible in a world where God exists as in one where he does not.
Well, not exactly. What Plantinga shows is that the existence of evil is as possible in a world where God exists as in one where he does not, given a libertarian understanding of free will. Given a compatibilist understanding of free will (in which one’s free choices are determined by prior events, whether material or divine), his argument fails. So part of what you need to factor into your formula is the probability that we are free in the libertarian sense.
But even if we assume that our freedom is of the libertarian variety, there is more to the problem of evil than mere possibility. The more pressing question is how likely or probable it is that God exists, given the amount and degree of evil we observe. Do you really want to commit yourself to the view that the existence of God would be no less probable in a world filled with nothing but horrendous evil than it would be in a world filled with nothing but perfect good? If not, you’re going to have to assign D something lower than 1.
August 19th, 2010 | 3:39 am
That is to say, you’re going to have to assign D something lower than 1, unless you can show that the amount and degree of evil in this world is no more than would be expected if God does indeed exist. The burden of proof, I believe, is on you, since most would find the amount and degree of evil—especially in its gratuitous forms—to constitute at least some evidence against the existence of God. After all, isn’t that why we universally refer to the situation as the problem of evil, rather than, say, the neutrality of evil?
August 20th, 2010 | 10:20 am
JB is right here. From what I can remember, Plantinga’s free will defense shows that the existence of God and the existence of evil are metaphysically compatible. But this does not mean that the probability of the existence of God given evil is neutral. To me, it is still very low. What Plantinga then says is that even though the probability of God is low given evil, there could be other evidences that still makes God high. See also Swinburne’s second edition of The Existence of God.
Also, I find the prior probability of God low. Think of His attributes. What can make that probability neutral? Anyway, there are a lot of better materials on philosophy of religion nowadays other than the one that is posted here.
August 20th, 2010 | 1:45 pm
God and Rev. Bayes
by Victor Stenger
In which Stenger inserts some more ralistic values than those used by Unger, and comes up with a much different result.
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“The existence of evil has very little to do with the argument at hand. As philosopher Alvin Plantinga shows, the existence of evil is as possible in a world where God exists as in one where he does not. Some people might still claim that the appearance of evil tilts the scales in favor of the non-existence of God. To make that claim, however, they must first refute Plantinga’s argument.”
Plantinga’s exercise claims that, given the presence of evil, God is still _possible_, not probable. You then bizarrely claim that one must defeat Plantinga’s argument to claim a _probability_ of the existence of God, based on the existence of evil. You’re just not making sense there.
August 21st, 2010 | 2:50 pm
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August 26th, 2010 | 11:23 pm
I think the question is not so much about god as it is about your religion. whether god exists or not, one will never know… however a good starting place would be with the reason why people think about this…your religion and what you believe in.
If there are 50 religions in the world…. which i think everyone would agree that there are more… then only 1 out of 50 even has a chance of being correct. 49 are wrong and most likely the last one is wrong as well. it is a simple thought and I think rather than be feared it should be embraced as current day knowledge. people are naieve to believe that they are right and everyone else in the world is wrong on “faith”…. it is blind faith with no real proof other than written word from the past……. the other 49 religions have a written word as well….that they would die for before accepting it as false.
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