While Iran is in tumult, the whole world pauses: for a pathetic, sad, Sanford presser in which he admits he has been cheating on his wife.
Now, go away, sir. Bravo to your wife for not standing there with you, allowing the cameras to chronicle her misery. You were never going to be president, anyway, because -as I have said repeatedly – men who seem like competent middle-management types are DONE being president in this country:
A staid, respectable white fellow with no twinge of flavor is going to die out there. He’s everyone’s competent project manager, but no one’s CEO.
And you spent the last 5 days CRYING in Argentina? Don’t you know that song, yet? No crying in Argentina, for anyone!
It’s not that I have no compassion for human failing. I do. I fail all the time and my sins, dropped into the big bucket of human sinfulness, resound and reverberate no less than Sanford’s.
I’m just so SICK of these people with power – our so-called “leadership” – sneaking around, making excuses and carrying on while the country is in serious trouble. And it’s doubly annoying when it is someone from the right; pols on the left haven’t, at least, been mouthing platitudes about values and the sanctity of marriage, give them that.
At least Sanford did not do the “cover it up” routine (ala Bill Clinton, which only made things worse for him and his family) at least Sanford is coming clean, and yes, he seems to be expressing genuine contrition about what he’s done…but enough of this, already.
I am at a loss to understand how it is that politicians, particularly politicians on the right (who know they will find no sympathy or protection from the press) seem oblivious to the fact that if they’re doing something that can destroy their careers, there are going to be opposition people out there, just lying in wait for the chance to expose them, or to pounce and devour if the politician exposes himself! You’d think they’d be smarter about how they conduct themselves, or they’d think long and hard, not just twice but a dozen times, before they indulged themselves in behavior that can only blow up in their faces.
I am not without compassion, but Gov. Sanford just handed the whole nation a crap sandwich that the press will chew on for weeks and weeks, while they ignore other – much more pressing and meaningful – stories. And in that way, we are all injured.
Gov. Sanford, glad you did the right thing and came clean, now get off the stage, so the press can get back to not covering the shambles of our economy or this story and not asking Barney Frank if he is learning disabled, not asking uncomfortable questions about healthcare, and the climate, or this issue or ohh…what’s the point. There is a sex scandal to report about, and sex trumps everything, especially when the story uncovers someone with an R after his name. As we all know, sex is “private” except when it is not, and the world is full of perpetual adolescents (on every side) who will immediately follow this (or the execrable “Jon & Kate Divorce” story) to the exclusion of anything else.
Sigh…alright, I’ll link around. I guess I’m a whore, too.
Roger L. Simon: When eyes of the nation should be focused, Sanford knocks our glasses off! Yes…I was heartbroken when I heard this news, not for Sanford (although for his wife, yes) but for the Iranian people who need our support today and who – with this story – will see coverage from the short-attention span media wane, as the press follows a titillating story and the political blood it leaves in the water.
Howard Kurtz tweets more compassion than I felt:
This was a man in pain, unraveling on live TV. Sanford kept flagellating himself. Pundits who talked about 2012 missed pt: the human drama.
Pursuing Holiness: Can men and women be friends?
Ed Morrissey: “No sniveling” also [this] makes Sanford the most famous Republican on foreign affairs at the moment
Jim Geraghty: His career is over
Confederate Yankee: Foreign affairs; yer doing it wrong
Ramesh: It’s Republican Infidelity Month!
Malkin: A surreal disaster of a press conference
He had a hell of a lot more passion and pathos for his mistress than his own wife. He referred wistfully to the “great friendship” and “that sparking thing” he had with the mistress for eight years — during which his wife was raising his four children.
RGA: Kathryn Lopez has their statement
Don’t cry for me: South Carolina
Quoting Mark Twain, you’re doing it wrong!
Noisy Room: Corruption & Immorality know no bias, only the press does
Bookworm: Sanford’s odd cadences
Maureen Dowd: Perpetually 14
WELCOME: Instapundit readers!. (And thanks to Glenn Reynolds for the link). If you haven’t been by since I moved to First Things, please look around. Today I am also trying to keep up with issues in Iran, and you will definitely want to read Spengler’s fascinating look at just how dangerous the Iranian situation is. Also, if you have just realized that you’d stopped receiving my feed, it is http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/feed/atom/
June 24th, 2009 | 3:16 pm | #1
I almost felt ill when I read that Barney Frank is asking – yet again – that loans for condos “be relaxed”. It appears he has NO learning curve. NO accountability either.
June 24th, 2009 | 3:16 pm | #2
On face value this is horrible. Cheating on your spouse is wrong on so many levels. I can’t help but wonder the timing of all of this. I mean, Ensign last week and Sanford this week? They were all Leaders of the Party and one by one they are being eliminated. I don’t know why but it feels like “Chicago politics” in action here. Something more sinister. Can’t explain it.
Also, you are right about the double standards between Dems and Reps.
June 24th, 2009 | 3:23 pm | #3
At least he came clean on his own rather than being “outed” by the Huffington Post or Daily Kos. Meanwhile, that blithering idiot Barney Frank is setting us up to repeat OLD mistakes and the Iranian Spring is imploding (sort of) before our very eyes! And we now discover that it was Jon Gosselin who was the impetus behind the divorce! And he didn’t have to ask her permission first! And you and I do not lack for things to blog about!
June 24th, 2009 | 3:28 pm | #4
[...] The Anchoress sums it up well: Glad you did the right thing and came clean, now Boooooo! Get off the stage, so the press can get back to not covering the shambles of our economy or this story and not asking Barney Frank if he is learning disabled, not asking uncomfortable questions about healthcare, and the climate, or this lie or ohh…what’s the point. There is a sex scandal to report about, and sex trumps everything, especially when the story uncovers someone with an R after his name. As we all know, sex is “private” except when it is not, and the world is full of perpetual adolescents (on every side) who will immediately follow this (or the execrable “Jon & Kate Divorce” story) to the exclusion of anything else. [...]
June 24th, 2009 | 3:38 pm | #5
[...] Day is the only day in the calendar that honors men. Mark Sanford may as well resign his governorship. He will never be elected [...]
June 24th, 2009 | 3:38 pm | #6
You write what I am thinking, that I hope his wife does NOT back him up through this. These men must be held accountable for this behavior, despicable – with four sons! Where are the REAL men!?
June 24th, 2009 | 3:44 pm | #7
I wouldn’t say that he came clean on his own — not after Pravda has been like sharks smelling blood in the water the last couple of days making a HUGE story out of a non-story, that Sanford was out of touch for a couple of days. They lucked out that there actually was something after all.
Either way, it’s time to go.
Time to clean house. The GOP can hardly go any lower, so there is no excuse for not now getting rid of all the rot and deadwood. From the squishy tapeworm RINOs to the immoral frauds to the unprincipled pragmatists, it is time for them all to go.
June 24th, 2009 | 3:48 pm | #8
[...] ANOTHER UPDATE: The Anchoress is not amused. [...]
June 24th, 2009 | 3:58 pm | #9
Agreed. Its why I left the Party. We worked our tails off getting these guys elected, a GOP controlled Congress. And still they couldn’t keep their hand out of the cash box, couldn’t keep their zipper up.
June 24th, 2009 | 3:59 pm | #10
[...] demonstrators being beaten in the streets. It’s kind of like Hiroshima, Mon Amour in reverse. The Anchoress has [...]
June 24th, 2009 | 4:10 pm | #11
Look, it ticks me off when a rightie does this kind of crap, too – because it gives the liars on the Left (who truly don’t give a shit about things like this) ammunition against us – because we DO care about things like this. Like Ayn Rand wrote in “Atlas Shrugged,” they use our highest values against us.
But the REAL point is that we have developed a political class in this country, Left AND Right, which is hypocritical, power hungry, amoral, self-absorbed and unaccountable. Read the tea leaves, folks – we MUST get rid of career politicians if we are to save our great Republic. Vote the Anti-Incumbent ticket; send ALL the bastards home.
June 24th, 2009 | 4:12 pm | #12
Ed (www.hotair.com) has a great “Facepalm” poster he uses for some of his articles. If the news keeps up like this, I think I’m going to have to borrow it.
I would suggest sending one to Mr. Frank but I don’t think he’d understand.
June 24th, 2009 | 4:17 pm | #13
Actually, the fact that Sanford disappeared to “cry in Argentina” is kind of funny, in a very pathetic sort of way.
Regarding one of your unrelated links, I’m not clear on why you tagged the clip, in which Warren Buffet slams cap and trade as a regressive tax, as a “lie.” Isn’t it a good thing that a business genius and high profile Obama supporter like Buffet is shining a light on the real costs all of us will have to bear under cap and trade? At least a few more people might sit up and pay attention.
I may have missed something, but this puzzled me.
[I knew I had gotten distracted as I linked something; that was it. I'll clarify - admin]
June 24th, 2009 | 4:33 pm | #14
[...] Anchoress readers, and thanks for the link! Click through for a thoughtful rant about Sanford and which critically important matters this [...]
June 24th, 2009 | 4:39 pm | #15
“You’d think they’d be smarter about how they conduct themselves, or they’d think long and hard, not just twice but a dozen times, before they indulged themselves…”
Oh, he was thinking long and hard… That was the problem
June 24th, 2009 | 4:41 pm | #16
What IS IT with these guys that they can’t keep their wicks dry?! Count me among the not buying it crowd. I was miserably married for YEARS and never cheated. It takes WORK to cheat, it doesn’t just “happen.” Much effort is involved, as his schedule conniptions indicate.
I have no sympathy. None. Not a jot. These “men” are rotten to the core.
June 24th, 2009 | 4:42 pm | #17
I’m sorry, but as a dumped wife, I do not have compassion for this man. Oh yes, I’m a sinner – big time, but give me a break. What an a**. What gets into these people. What exactly are they smoking once they get into power that completely obliterates their ability to think? Or maybe that’s what they would have been with or without power. Who knows. All I know is this guy is shameful!
June 24th, 2009 | 4:50 pm | #18
Anchoress, that’s exactly how I felt watching the presser. He needs to RESIGN as Governor, and right NOW! Get off the stage entirely. Just another selfish, narcissistic pol, Yes, we’re all sinners. But for God’s sake, if you’re a politician, and a conservative one at that, can’t you figure this out?!? Good God, he had 8 years to realize this was a stupid thing to do… but no, he kept going. Idiot. I’m sick of the lot of ‘em; I’m with Respawn.
The whole press conference just made me sick. It was so self-serving. I saw no real contrition at all; I saw someone who loved being in the spotlight and thought he has a heartbreaking, wonderful story to tell, and isn’t he great, asking for forgiveness of everybody and his brother.
And you’re right, this takes attention off the things that are really important, such as the bloodshed in Iran and the path our President has us on.
June 24th, 2009 | 4:54 pm | #19
“A staid, respectable white fellow with no twinge of flavor is going to die out there.”
I sure hope so. We need characters. It’s no coincidence that the word means both moral courage and colorful personality. These “competent”, tassle-loafered politicians are self-centered phonies looking to cajole, coerce or steal everything the can.
We have very few leaders of character; Palin being the most obvious exception. We’ve got to start from scratch by leaving the Democrat & Republican Party to rot and turning every incumbent out on their ear.
June 24th, 2009 | 5:07 pm | #20
“As we all know, sex is “private” except when it is not…”
Sex (at least when combined with politics) used to be private. That pretty much went away when it was used as weapon to bring down Clinton. I feel sorry only for Sanford’s family.
June 24th, 2009 | 5:09 pm | #21
I am not without compassion, but Gov. Sanford just handed the whole nation a crap sandwich that the press will chew on for weeks and weeks, while they ignore other – much more pressing and meaningful – stories. And in that way, we are all injured.
Come on – the state-run media didn’t need Sanford to ignore important issues. The fact that somewhere a non-leftist has a pulse and is still breathing is all the excuse they have ever needed.
Instead of admitting infidelity, Sanford could have have announced at the press conference that he had discovered the cure for HIV/AIDS, breast cancer, and malaria while ending world hunger, and the state-run media would still demonize him. If a politician has an “R” after his/her name, then that’s literally all the state-run media can see.
June 24th, 2009 | 5:15 pm | #22
On a brighter note, he did finally come across a stimulus package he could live with.
June 24th, 2009 | 5:32 pm | #23
[...] the fact that conservative after connservative is already condemning Sanford’s actions. The Anchoress‘ take best sums up my position. You see, one of the countless things liberals fail to [...]
June 24th, 2009 | 6:05 pm | #24
Boo. Hiss. Thanks a buttload, Gov’ner Lepetomaine; you’ve just handed the lefties another machine gun.
This sort of nonsense drove me to re-register as an independent also. If you’re going to bang the “family virtues” gong, you’d better walk the walk; otherwise, do yourself and the rest of us a big fat favor and shaddap.
Hucbald – I was in the same situation as you (woman-on-man abuse does occur, by the way) and never even so much as went on a date until I’d filed for divorce and was legally separated. I wouldn’t do that to the kids.
June 24th, 2009 | 6:15 pm | #25
What’s this about Bill Clinton being unfaithful? I saw none of THAT in the “media”!
June 24th, 2009 | 6:23 pm | #26
I was so happy to see she didn’t do the press conference with him. Apparently, she kicked him out a couple of weeks ago and told him not to call so he runs off to chicky-poo in Argentina.
I wish her and the boys all the best.
June 24th, 2009 | 6:34 pm | #27
I did not see my view mentioned directly so I’ll just add knowing I am a bit late to the comment “party”.
I am heartily sick of the whole “Public Confessional” viz Press Conference viz the MSM.
The whole thing has gotten so routine it’s no longer of interest/value/insert POV here…
I, too am not with out compassion, and will make my best effort with the whole “log in the eye thing”. But, really, enough already.
June 24th, 2009 | 6:47 pm | #28
One has to wonder if at some level this was conscious political suicide. Agreed, he needs to resign immediately as governor.
June 24th, 2009 | 6:50 pm | #29
Anchoress, you had best chop off your husband’s tackle before he commits the sins of the flesh. This stuff spreads like H1N1 among the religious right.
June 24th, 2009 | 6:52 pm | #30
Thanks (not) troll – are you stupid enough to believe that anyone is going to read through your unending trash post?
[Just so you know, Joseph is not a troll, but an old friend of this blog. Unrepentantly liberal, but a good guy and a serious Buddhist who once took the time (and the risk) to come to the defense of Pope Benedict XVI when he was being smeared. We disagree - and will forever - but we are friendly. Joe does get long-winded, sometimes, though.
-admin]
June 24th, 2009 | 6:55 pm | #31
Honestly, no one (elected, appointed, hired, whatever) should be allowed to collect a government paycheck for more than 20 years — total.
Feeding at the public trough is toxic.
June 24th, 2009 | 7:10 pm | #32
I regret that my comment somehow got submitted out from under me.
I can stop there, since Gerry has correctly, if rudely, pointed out that I am becoming long-winded. And confusing him or any of your readers with mere fact and evidence is probably unsportsmanlike.
[Bad mood, Joseph? I'm wondering if, upon reflection, you really want to say some of the things you've said, or if you're just letting your mood get away from you. But we can talk about that privately. I will hold back your comment until you've had a chance to think about it. -admin]
June 24th, 2009 | 7:29 pm | #33
[...] a, “Don’t Cry for Me Argentina” moment, South Carolina Governor, Mark Sanford, admitted today to having an 8 year-long [...]
June 24th, 2009 | 7:35 pm | #34
In addition to his betrayal of his family, he intentionally deceived the people of South Carolina and was missing in action for days without anyone knowing where he was.
Inexcusable behavior for a governor.
I hope he has the decency to resign his position.
Mr. H
http://allhands-ondeck.blogspot.com/
June 24th, 2009 | 7:38 pm | #35
All I can say is that the one without sin should cast the first stone!
What are you talking about sinner vic!?
I was just about to try and figure that out but my wife is calling me to play cards so no more comments for me tonight and that makes me kind of sad.
Peace
June 24th, 2009 | 7:45 pm | #36
Well, let’s be honest. The Iran thing is getting old. I mean really, how many times do we want to watch Iranians get their heads beat in when we can have a good laugh at the expence of another bible-thumping hypocrite politician?
This just shows that our priorities are right. Iran does not matter. Iran never matters.
June 24th, 2009 | 8:53 pm | #37
Mr. Sanford should resign the governorship. He is a conservative. We conservatives preach high standards of moral and ethical behaviour. We are therefore obligated to hold ourselves to those high standards. When we violate those standards and we are elected officials who were elected based on the advocacy of said high standards, we have betrayed those who voted for us. Therefore, the only honorable action to take is to resign the elected office.
Mr. Sanford should go and spend time working on either saving his marriage and salving the wounds he has inflicted on his wife and children or working on making a divorce as painless as possible for his wife and children. He should be a man and shoulder any consequences no matter how painful to himself. Whatever way it is decided to proceed, it should be done in private for the sake of your family and friends
Last and least, he has damaged the conservative cause at a very bad moment for it. If he has any honor, he should figuratively take the Luger, go in his den, and do the right thing for the sake of those of us who are struggling to save this country as it speeds down the road to perdition.
You are not damned for eternity sir, but you are obliged to spend some time in purgatory.
Quoted from and linked to at:
http://www.thecampofthesaints.com/2009.06.21_arch.html#1245885156891
June 24th, 2009 | 8:57 pm | #38
Another GOP cracker hypocrite, shocking.
[Yeah. Too bad everyone in the GOP isn't sinless and scandal free like everyone on the left. As Howard Kurtz just twittered, Barney Frank had a prostitution ring working out of his basement and yet he still enjoys his career. How awful that people on the right actually think their leadership should resign when they're caught being jerks. admin]
June 24th, 2009 | 9:37 pm | #39
let him (or her) that is without sin cast the first stone
June 24th, 2009 | 9:48 pm | #40
You’d think they’d be smarter about how they conduct themselves, or they’d think long and hard, not just twice but a dozen times, before they indulged themselves in behavior that can only blow up in their faces.
Taken to the logical conclusion, they HAVE thought about it a dozen times. And they’ve chosen to do it anyway.
That’s the real awfulness. Their lust is part of it, but it’s their pride, their overwhelming sense of power, allows them to think they are different, that they can get away with it, that they aren’t a debased depraved sinner destroying everything and everyone around them with their lies.
June 24th, 2009 | 9:55 pm | #41
It’s rather interesting, at this point, in a sick sort of way. Conservatives have a message, but not messengers. Liberals, meanwhile, have messengers, but no message.
Oh, and to the person who was saying that we’ve had enough of Iran, I hope to God (literally) that you were being sarcastic. What is happening in Iran, quite frankly, is more important than anything else happening in the world right now.
June 24th, 2009 | 10:42 pm | #42
I stick by the maxim taught to me by my grandfather: “Never, ever trust a man who cheats on his wife”.
He needs to resign. Either he volunteers, or he gets pushed. Vanishing for a week without making any arrangements for matters to be handled in his absence, lying to his own staffers… that’s inexcusable in and of itself. If he cannot keep things “together enough” to arrange for some time off for personal soul-searching (over a crisis of his own creation), and make those arrangements in a dignified, professional manner, then he cannot be trusted with the office, period.
June 24th, 2009 | 11:04 pm | #43
It’s interesting how many of those entering comments are leaping directly from Sanford’s mea culpa to how despicable the Democrats are. They have their own failings and are not responsible for his.
June 24th, 2009 | 11:35 pm | #44
Setting aside the moral issues for a moment, I find Sanford’s behavior stupid and irresponsible. He should resign or be fired on that basis alone. His judgment is obviously lacking if he thought he could get away with the affair and an executive at his level abandoning his position and going incommunicado for a week is inexcusable. I disagree with the bloggers claiming his actions are tantamount to abuse of his constituents (must everyone be a victim?), but deeply irresponsible – yes. One of the many tragedies resulting from his sin is that any good he may have done in his career is erased forever.
And speaking of sin, this is a good example of how the effects of sinfulness are never isolated to the sinner. Especially if the sinner is a conservative. God pity his poor family.
BTW – did anyone else notice the happy-faced women in the background during his press conference? I saw three women smiling broadly while he revealed the devastation in his personal life. What’s up with that?
[Please pardon my using your comment to deliver a message, but I have no other way to do it. To the anti-Christian hater who keeps trying to post comments here, please note that I do not post comments from people with fake email addresses. So your email address, like the ones that say @dieAnchoressdie is keeping me from allowing your lovely, tolerant, mature and intelligent musings to be placed into conversations. That said, whether Sanford "came clean" enough for you does not change fact that he "came clean" more than, say...oh...Clinton, when he was caught, and did not engage in a cover up. And it's so stupid to have to rehash that. -admin]
June 25th, 2009 | 12:36 am | #45
“There is a sex scandal to report about, and sex trumps everything, especially when the story uncovers someone with an R after his name.”
Anchoress, I am so sorry to hear about your coma that lasted from Jan 17, 1998 to Feb 12, 1999.
Bless your heart.
June 25th, 2009 | 12:57 am | #46
There is very little difference between Sanford’s situation and that of Rudy Guiliani.
Both were married with young children- the second marriage, by the way for Guiliani , a Catholic – when each man fell in love with another woman. Each man was kicked out of this house by his wife. Sanford seems to have fallen apart where Rudy shrugged it off, camped out a gay friend’s guest room and kept up his affair with the woman who was to become his third wife.
Lucky for Rudy the custody battle for Gracie mansion which had the poltitcial class gleefully gossiping for months was almost completely forgotten after 9/11.
June 25th, 2009 | 1:50 am | #47
[...] now let’s go see what some of my fellow bloggers are saying. The Anchoress wants Sanford to stop crying in Argentina. Michelle Malkin compares the “jerkitude” of [...]
June 25th, 2009 | 2:23 am | #48
Roz, that “very little difference” was one of the reasons why I could not in good conscience support the guy who did become the GOP nominee.
You know, there are 300 million people in this country. Figure 120 million are Republicans (40 percent, given a probable 40-40-20 split). Of that 120 million, probably, what, 80 million are of age to hold elective office?
Out of 80 million possible Republicans, you would think that we could find a couple or three who weren’t total duds or slimy or despicable. Apparently, however, you would think wrong. It is disgusting. (And the Dems are even worse.)
But now we are reaping the harvest of the Big Tent. Nothing but weeds and thorns and bug-infested rotted fruit.
June 25th, 2009 | 9:30 am | #49
I don’t know why but it feels like “Chicago politics” in action here. Something more sinister. Can’t explain it.
Yes, they used an old Daley Machine/Jedi mind trick that made Sanford fly to Argentina to visit his girlfriend and stay out of touch with the state he purports to govern for a few days, along with giving his staff the bright idea to say he was hiking along the Appalachian trail when they had no idea where he was.
That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it!
June 25th, 2009 | 9:57 am | #50
Dave Jurin I liked your comment – a lot. I have been doing some exploration and it seems that Mrs. Sanford (who claims to still love her husband) did not acquiesce to the “little woman standing by her man” nonsense of say, Mrs. Spitzer or Hillary Rodham Clinton. Therefore, I have more respect for her and even more contempt for his self-indulgent whoring around! My objection to these horndog politicians is simple. If they cannot continue to keep their marital vows – how can we trust them to keep any promises they may have made to get elected.
June 25th, 2009 | 11:50 am | #51
Anchoress,
As a citizen and voter in SC I can tell you honestly that if someone had lined up a thousand pictures of men and asked which one had betrayed his wife and children Mark Sanford would not have been the one I picked.
Having said that, I also feel since he neglected his duties as governor for five days he should resign or be impeached as it seems to be an impeachable offense: leaving without leaving contact information.
I read the emails posted in the State newspaper and got the feeling this was a 18th century love affair, where he knew what he did was wrong and yet couldn’t help himself.
He was going through counseling with his wife for the past few months and they were at the separation stage of the counseling. Maybe he went to Argentina to break off the affair, I don’t know.
What I saw yesterday was a man in deep pain of contrition and my heart ached for him and for his wife and children. This was not an act.
Mark Sanford never had presidential ambitions, so why everyone is focusing on that is beyond me.
Everyone, including us bloggers and the newspapers and networks should leave this family in peace to sort out their future.
His wife’s statement of love for him and the hope of rebuilding their marriage really touched me too. I was reading the words of a fallen Christian man and his Christian wife.
Remember, David did the same thing and yet the Bible says David was a man after God’s own heart.
[J, I know we're all sinners. I'm just sick of these sensational stories in the "leadership." I didn't even read the emails. Had said my piece, and basically moved on. But I see it's still the big thing on twitter!
-admin]
June 25th, 2009 | 11:52 am | #52
Hey folks! Please forgive me Anchoress but I’m going to go off topic for a God Second and say that for a human second I thought that I was visiting “Slactivist” cause I saw 50 comments here and if you permit me, I must apologize to Fred Clark and his readers cause everyone of them have been very good to me at the end. I’ve got to confess to them that I’ve stopped visiting cause I’m not worthy to be their sinful king! True sinner vic would be happy to take on the job as their spiritual heal her but I’m sorry to say that I’ve corrupted him in the early seventies and now he’s nothing but a sinful imaginary so called god who goes on pretending that he’s something special and as most of us know their are countless of these gods and Victor, wanting to be a good Catholic has no choice but to confess here for sinner vic.
Agar Victor! Not even Abraham was perfect in my eyes so if there’s any confessing to be done I want to do “IT” myself!
OK! Go ahead you skitso! We could all use a little laugh before we read Anchoress’ next post.
I must warn you though Victor, I’ll be writing “IT” as one of these so called gods so for your flesh sake please ask everyone to say a prayer for your blood and your bones also.
Come on sinner vic! We haven’t got all day and I’ve heard that “The End of The World” could end before we finish this comment but then again, “IT” could be a “Trillion Years” from now but nevertheless let’s get going cause the last thing we want is for anyone else to ‘Undergo’ another coma if you know what I mean Victor!
Does any body know what you mean sinner vic? Forgive me Anchoress cause these skitso friends of mine don’t know if they are coming and/or going so me, myself and I will try and control them with the power that Our Heavenly Father as given U.S. and bring this comment to a Brunt “Stop”
June 25th, 2009 | 12:07 pm | #53
[...] admits affair; John Kerry: “Too Bad Sarah Palin Didn’t go Missing“; The Anchoress is not amused. In unrelated news, “Bill Clinton was on a private visit to Argentina on behalf of his [...]
June 25th, 2009 | 12:14 pm | #54
Normally, no one outside of South Carolina would care that their governor went AWOL for a few days. He would expect to get away with it. However, we have a new CEO in DC. He and his ACORN buddies are going to keep track of every Republican in a leadership role. The prez has a large spy network out there.
It is no surprise that two leading Republicans, one in charge of raising money for Senate candidates and one who heads the Republican Governors’ group, get caught with their pants down within a few weeks. It takes attention from the economy, Iran, the pending health care fiasco.
This should be a “heads-up” to all Republican office holders or would-be office seekers. If you have ever cheated on your spouse, expect it to hit the news. If you are gay and have kept it quiet, expect the closet door to open. If you ever cheated on your taxes, guess who runs the IRS? And BTW, if you are male and a father, do not vanish over Father’s Day. Even if your wife kicked your cheating butt out of the house, at least put on your MS-Outlook calendar that you are spending the day with the kids! And if are really that stupid, resign.
June 25th, 2009 | 12:51 pm | #55
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June 25th, 2009 | 1:43 pm | #56
It is no surprise that two leading Republicans, one in charge of raising money for Senate candidates and one who heads the Republican Governors’ group, get caught with their pants down within a few weeks.
You really think that any governor of any state could drop out of sight for a few days and it wouldn’t be noticed until his/her political opponents brought it to the attention of the general public?
Pleeeeeeeeease!
June 25th, 2009 | 2:30 pm | #57
The reaction we are seeing from conservatives concerning Mark Sanford is the result of idol worship on their part.The unenlightened among us always fall at the clay feet of some new political savior.
Never get too involved with people you support because the odds are great you will be disappointed by them.
When the crowd was praising The Lord the scriptures tell us He did not give Himself to them because He knew what was in man.
Man’s rotten fallen nature has not changed and politicians seem to prove that more often than others.
June 25th, 2009 | 4:03 pm | #58
Mr. Cropper,
I have no idea of your politics, but I feel compelled to point out that beam in your eye. The conservative reaction to Sanford’s sin isn’t defensive or a denial of it. I’d say it is something more like chagrin, disappointment, frustration and compassion for his suffering family. Most of us are intimately familiar with our fallen nature. We place no faith in the flesh and therefore none in the redemptive power of our government and the sinners serving in it. It is definitionally conservative to want government small and weak for this reason.
If you want to witness idol worship, you only need look to the adoration of The One by the liberal faithful. You point me to widespread admission of anything he’s ever done wrong in his entire life by progressives and I’ll repent. But, please, Obama had his image morphed with Lincoln’s before he even took office and they started naming schools after him before his first 100 days passed. For the Left, he isn’t just a political savior – he’s THE savior.
June 25th, 2009 | 4:20 pm | #59
As a SC resident and voter, I am very digusted. Please don’t wish Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer on us, though. he is quite the tool.
June 25th, 2009 | 4:40 pm | #60
I am going to take the liberty of quoting JOM commenter Jim Ryan:
(I read that and thought, “gee, I wish I had said that,” and then thought, “it sounds like something The Anchoress would say,” But then I often read your stuff and think “gee, I wish I had said that.”)
My only other note is that the only recent topic that has been this popular was the discussion of how you pronounce “the” when preceeding a word that starts with a vowel. I’m not sure that I have a point with that, but I thought that somebody needed to point it out.
June 25th, 2009 | 5:41 pm | #61
I’m so sick and tired of the sanctimonious attitude of so many who are commenting on this issue, especially those who call themselves “Christian.”
The Bible says, “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” Hello! Who is sin free? Anyone here? I don’t think so, and I’ve always been taught there are no little sins.
I’m especially disappointed in the likes of Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. These are two who make no secret of their “religiosity,” and yet they actually find “humor” in this horrible, painful situation.
Personally, I think Governor Sanford should resign and devote himself, slavishly, to his wife and children. But, I do not think he’s any better or any worse than me.
We all live in glass house and should be really, really careful about those stones…just ask the guys who were after the adulterous wife when Jesus came on the scene. Oops!
June 25th, 2009 | 7:11 pm | #62
I don’t know, Cathy — seems to me lovelessness and emptiness are a choice. Sanford did have another option — he still has that option. He could choose to love and honor the woman that he vowed to love and honor for the rest of his life. If there was something “very bad” in his life, he was obligated to change it, that is, he was obligated to change HIMSELF from being self-centered to actually trying to love.
Love is a choice. Lovelessness is a choice.
Sanford chose poorly.
Now he will know real emptiness.
June 25th, 2009 | 7:53 pm | #63
When it comes to sexual impurity in all its forms, e.g., pornography, infidelity, prostitution, bestiality, masturbation, etc., consequences are rarely thought of. Addiction is a strange animal–it clouds the senses and impairs rational judgement: “I am going to do this, no matter what!” The temporal consequences are bad enough; think of the spiritual consequences, and shudder. This is sin against God. I speak from experience, and I also hear this in my purity recovery/healing group that I lead. That is why addictiive behavior is called “insanity.” Those who have never been through it have difficulty understanding theis behavior.
June 25th, 2009 | 8:03 pm | #64
If you want to witness idol worship, you only need look to the adoration of The One by the liberal faithful. You point me to widespread admission of anything he’s ever done wrong in his entire life by progressives and I’ll repent.
Read the Talkleft blog, you’ll find criticism by those on the Left, even Progressive side of things towards Obama, and I’m not talking about nutty Progressives like Ted Rall.
June 25th, 2009 | 8:53 pm | #65
This whole filthy, stupid mess has me disgusted. Sanford’s conduct disgusts me, but so do the attitudes of many people who think “let he who is without sin…” somehow ends the discussion. I am not without sin, but does that mean I can never judge the actions of another because of that? What if Governor Sanford was stuffing the corpses of Girl Scouts in a crawlspace under the Executive Mansion? I am a sinner, so would I or would I not be allowed to have an opinion on that?
I am not casting stones. I am drawing logical conclusions. Jesus told the woman taken in adultery “go and sin no more.” That was a statement based on his observation of her behavior. Did Christ err in doing this?
The real crux of the matter is this: Women have the power to end the type of behavior which Sanford exhibited. Any woman stupid enough to dally with an adulterer is rewarding this behavior, and guaranteeing that more of it will occur. I am glad that Mrs. Sanford did not stand up with her husband, as that would also facilitate more of the same.
June 25th, 2009 | 10:20 pm | #66
Visited Talkleft as you suggested Dark Avenger. In the open thread I read comparisons of the conservative, secular, paralyzed, Harvard medical school psychiatrist, political commentator and Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist Charles Krauthammer to a pig and monkeys with a keyboard. This AFTER Krauthammer criticized Sanford for being incommunicado.
I didn’t give up though – hoping I would find some critique of Obama that might improve my opinion of progressives’ ability to admit fault. I learned that Obama is “cool” in the face of the Iran crisis and our own government is guilty of the same sorts of atrocities as the Iranian tyranny. Even read a comment about how “our government” is probably watching GITMO abuse as if it were a sports show. I’m yet to find any concern for the massive power grab by this administration though. And frankly, I’m not going to spend any more time at it. Life is short and I’m trying to elevate my experience of it. Which is why I read The Anchoress.
June 26th, 2009 | 12:12 am | #67
For the record:
That just vindicates (5.00 / 1) (#32)
by jondee on Thu Jun 25, 2009 at 04:00:18 PM EST
my theory that if Krauthammer spoke long enough, eventually he’d say something relatively cogent.
Kinda like the monkeys playing with typewriters for thousands of years hypothesis.
There’s an old (none / 0) (#52)
by Zorba on Thu Jun 25, 2009 at 05:06:10 PM EST
down-home saying: “Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile.” I guess Krauthead would be that pig.
This AFTER Krauthammer criticized Sanford for being incommunicado.
Winning a Pulitzer prize doesn’t mean someone can’t be a dunderhead at times:
I’m yet to find any concern for the massive power grab by this administration though.
Yes, we’d be better off left to the tender mercies of the health care system and insurance companies, thank you for sharing with us today.
Also, I blame the Anchoress for all the Obama worship, as she set the tone with her sycophantic attitude towards the previous inhabitant of the Oval Office in her blog.
June 26th, 2009 | 9:03 am | #68
I think you’ve made my point. You’re defending the name-calling of Krauthammer and adding one of your own (dunderhead). Then aiming your criticism of the government take-over of the most effective health care system in the world – at saving lives, not money, that is (you forgot the drug companies). And now the Anchoress is to blame for Obama worship (tell me that was sarcasm please). I’m still waiting for examples of widespread criticism of Obama by those on the left. Hearing crickets.
If you find something, I’m prepared to be disappointed though. I suspect it will be something about how Obama isn’t left enough.
June 26th, 2009 | 10:03 am | #69
I think you’ve made my point.
Not really, but go ahead anyway.
You’re defending the name-calling of Krauthammer and adding one of your own (dunderhead).
So, somebody whose criticism of Obama is that he used the correct term in referring to a specific foreign dignitary as some sort of “abject solicitousness” isn’t a dunderhead?
Then aiming your criticism of the government take-over of the most effective health care system in the world – at saving lives, not money, that is (you forgot the drug companies).
Actually, we have the same health outcomes as other countries, at twice the cost they pay. I wouldn’t term that as “the most effective health care system in the world.”
As for what I said about the Anchoress, as Louis Armstrong said about jazz, if you have to ask, you ain’t never gonna know.
As for Talkleft, there has been much criticism there for his stand on illegal drugs, even by the site owner at times.
Here’s an example:
There has also been much criticism by Pam Spaulding of Pam’s House Blend and Pandagon on Obama’s failure to keep his promise about “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”, but don’t take my word for it, use teh Google and find out if I’m correct.
I suspect it will be something about how Obama isn’t left enough.
Well, no, the logical thing would be that people on the Left would complain about how Obama isn’t right-wing enough for their tastes, just as the Anchoress lambastes Obama on a regular basis because he hasn’t made the country a socialist paradise.
Thanks for demonstrating what John Stuart Mill wrote over 140 years ago:
June 26th, 2009 | 12:34 pm | #70
Of course, you are aware, that those who are “conservative” today would have been called, 140 years ago, classical liberals?
[I still call myself a classical liberal - admin]
June 26th, 2009 | 2:27 pm | #71
That would be true in Europe, but here in America we have ‘conservatives’ who stalk a family because they make the current status quo look bad(Michelle Malkin, Our Lady of Rage) and others who use the word liberal as an epithet I don’t consider in any way a ‘classic’ or otherwise liberal of any sort, no matter what they say.
June 26th, 2009 | 8:51 pm | #72
Dear Mr. Dark Avenger,
My goodness you are a tedious, tendentious, self-important, puffed up, arrogant little snot, aren’t you?
We have SIMILAR health care outcomes as other industrialized countries for two reasons, and two reasons only (but for these two, our outcomes would far exceed any other country):
1. We are a bunch of sedentary fat@$$es, with terrible eating and exercise habits (yes, worse than other industrialized countries); and
2. Other countries “game the system” in logging their infant mortality rates, etc., producing health care statistics that are, shall we say, in less than complete congruence with reality.
But thanks for playing.
June 27th, 2009 | 1:26 am | #73
My goodness you are a tedious, tendentious, self-important, puffed up, arrogant little snot, aren’t you?
I dunno, are you comparing me to your immediate family or the community in which you were raised in?
We have SIMILAR health care outcomes as other industrialized countries for two reasons, and two reasons only (but for these two, our outcomes would far exceed any other country):
We are a bunch of sedentary fat@$$es, with terrible eating and exercise habits (yes, worse than other industrialized countries); and
Yes, but we also have a significant minority population who are more vulnerable to lifestyle diseases(diabetes, hypertension, coronary artery disease, etc) compared to a lot of the European countries, which should be factored in as well
2. Other countries “game the system” in logging their infant mortality rates, etc., producing health care statistics that are, shall we say, in less than complete congruence with reality.
Is that why our ranks in various health outcome measures have fallen compared to what they were 40 years ago?
Here’s some facts for you to chew over, I hope they don’t give you indigestion:
But thanks for playing.
Heh, it was child’s play.
June 29th, 2009 | 12:58 am | #74
I’m glad it was child’s play, else you could not have played. I called you a tedious little snot in comparison to grownups – but, yes, you are also a tedious little snot in comparison to my immediate family, and my community. Face it, you are a tedious little snot. To quote G.B. Shaw’s “Julius Caesar” (when Brittanus was questioning a decision of Caesar’s, and Caesar’s courtiers were outraged thay anyone would question Caesar) “Forgive him, Theodotus, for he is a barbarian, and thinks the customs of his tribe are the laws of the universe.”
You have apparently grown up in an environment that led you to believe a half-witty snark and an unsupported assertion constituted argument. And I’m sure you have delusions of adequacy in that regard. Since you seem quite sure of your own gifts, I’ll give you one more chance. First, in what regard is ANYTHING you posted inconsistent with or contradictory to my assertions? (Hint: It isn’t. Everything you posted actually fits quite well into my hypothesis, as asserted.)
Second: Thought experiment. Assume everything you posted was gospel truth (and you assume statistics promulgated by international bodies are accurate and without agenda????? You are, indeed, a naif.)
How might (i) differences in reporting regimes, (ii) differences in lifestyle, (iii) regular use of high cost diagnostic and treatment modalities in less than crisis situations affect these statistics and outcomes, and (iv) how are cost statistics derived (given that, in many of the countries on which your statistics are based, “costs” are creatures of government bureaucracy, and have little relationship to reality). It’s somewhat complex, so I’ll give you some time, but you need to think a little deeper than bumper stickers – assuming you are capable.
Oh, and by the way – “Yes, but we also have a significant minority population who are more vulnerable to lifestyle diseases(diabetes, hypertension, coronary artery disease, etc) compared to a lot of the European countries, which should be factored in as well” Two points – One, that was actually part of my point (and, again, thanks for playing), and Two – what a racist @$$hole you are. Minorities are the cause of our healthcare problem????? Obama would be mortified by your racist attitudes.
You really are a simpleton.
June 29th, 2009 | 3:52 pm | #75
I suppose this topic and thread are both stale by now, but I think it’s important enough to bring this up to anyone who might still read this and be confused, as it appears Andrew Batten was by his comment above, that to say “let him (or her) who is without sin cast the first stone” means that you shouldn’t think of Gov. Sanford’s actions as wrong.
Jesus clearly called the adulterous woman’s act sin, and I’m sure he would do the same for Gov. Sanford. What he did not do was insult the woman or insinuate she was worthless, vile, or disgusting because of her sin. Whether or not Jesus could have been in the position to make such a judgment of the woman in adultery, I am certain none of us are in the position to make that judgment of Gov. Sanford.
June 29th, 2009 | 8:34 pm | #76
I called you a tedious little snot in comparison to grownups – but, yes, you are also a tedious little snot in comparison to my immediate family, and my community. Face it, you are a tedious little snot. To quote G.B. Shaw’s “Julius Caesar” (when Brittanus was questioning a decision of Caesar’s, and Caesar’s courtiers were outraged thay anyone would question Caesar) “Forgive him, Theodotus, for he is a barbarian, and thinks the customs of his tribe are the laws of the universe.”
Let’s see, you’re the one using putdown language and at the same time I’m the one who is a barbarian.
As per the Hitchhikers’ guide to the Galaxy
June 29th, 2009 | 9:18 pm | #77
(cont)
I’d be wary of Zebra crossings if I were you.
You have apparently grown up in an environment that led you to believe a half-witty snark and an unsupported assertion constituted argument.
Then you should have had no trouble pointing to studies and surveys demonstrating the data I presented instead of tedious snark unworthy of a 6th grader.
Since you seem quite sure of your own gifts, I’ll give you one more chance. First, in what regard is ANYTHING you posted inconsistent with or contradictory to my assertions? (Hint: It isn’t. Everything you posted actually fits quite well into my hypothesis, as asserted.)
I dunno, this part here from a non-profit PA and therefore, American, foundation?
A 2008 report by the Commonwealth Fund ranked the United States last in the quality of health care among the 19 compared countries.
Yes, that supports your hypothesis adequately.
Not.
Second: Thought experiment. Assume everything you posted was gospel truth (and you assume statistics promulgated by international bodies are accurate and without agenda????? You are, indeed, a naif.)
What would the agenda be, make sure America turns into the healthcare hell-holes that the inaccurate statistics promulgated by internation bodies concel until it’s too late?
You are indeed not smart enough to be called a naif, I’m sure if your position were a book it would make Dianetics seem like Newton’s Principia Mathematica by comparison.
How might (i) differences in reporting regimes, (ii) differences in lifestyle, (iii) regular use of high cost diagnostic and treatment modalities in less than crisis situations affect these statistics and outcomes, and (iv) how are cost statistics derived (given that, in many of the countries on which your statistics are based, “costs” are creatures of government bureaucracy, and have little relationship to reality). It’s somewhat complex, so I’ll give you some time, but you need to think a little deeper than bumper stickers – assuming you are capable.
Assertion
=evidence to the contrary.Two – what a racist @$$hole you are. Minorities are the cause of our healthcare problem????? Obama would be mortified by your racist attitudes.
No, it has been documented that there are such differences between minority status and health care outcome, although remember that if you took statistics as I did, that correlation doesn’t imply causation.
Of course, the following is from the HHS website, from our government:
You really are a simpleton.
Don’t beat around the bush, let me know how you really feel. Let it all out, lest it stay within you and twist your sunny and cheery personality.
Cheers!
July 2nd, 2009 | 2:14 pm | #78
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