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The Greatest Nation on Earth

My remotest ancestors on this continent settled in Maryland in 1634, as titled freeholders under the sheltering canopy of a royal charter. I do not come from hardy immigrants who set out from their native soils to make a desperate crossing in steerage to a distant, near-mythical land of limitless possibility called “America.” I fear that, during the great age of immigration, when those “huddled masses yearning to breathe free” began arriving on these shores in appreciable numbers, my people probably shuttered their windows and exchanged alarmed whispers about the influx of foreigners.

As a result, I was not really raised with any firm sense of being an American; it was not part of my family mythology. We were Marylanders first and foremost, and Americans only by an accident of history.

For many of the older generations of my relatives—especially my seemingly immortal distaff grandmother and great-aunts—the map of the respectable world terminated to the north just past the Mason-Dixon Line (beyond which, only the inscription “Here there be Yankees”) and to the south at the Potomac, with the western and eastern extremities simply gently melting away into the lush green of the Appalachians or the glaucous billows of the Atlantic.

Even within my immediate family, with its greater liberality, it was still chiefly Maryland that claimed our loyalty: her colorful history, her delectable cuisine, her flamboyantly armigerous flag, her bellicose state anthem. America was an afterthought. This is not to say I was raised with any romantic illusions about our colonial or even recent past; I knew that my ancestors displaced the original indigenous peoples of the Chesapeake, that ours had been a slave state, and that our schools had remained segregated right up to 1954. It is only to say that I grew up with the sense that Maryland, not the United States, was my homeland.

In recent decades, moreover, as the emerald fields and forests of my native Howard County have been swallowed up in the gray squalid sprawl of urban development, to accommodate all those (principally northern) Ausländer who have moved into the region to work in D.C., and as the soft, lyrical, distinctly Southern lilt of the central Maryland accent has been drowned under a hideous deluge of slurred syllables, guttural vowels, and glottal stops, I have at times found myself thinking of Americans much as the Helots must have thought of the Spartans.

Perhaps this explains, at least in part, my inability to join full-throatedly in that interminable chorus of self-congratulation that is American patriotism. Not to say I do not appreciate our national virtues or magnificent landscapes. I certainly have no desire to live anywhere else. My devotion to baseball is damnably idolatrous.

But, in general, my love of country is a quiet, somewhat reclusive emotion that does not like to disport itself in the open. I cannot feel whatever my compatriots feel when they make wildly exorbitant claims about America’s unsurpassable epochal importance; I certainly cannot seriously credit the claim—which I have heard all my life—that America is the “greatest nation on earth,” or even the “greatest nation in history.”

What could that possibly mean?

I suppose much depends on what one’s criteria of greatness are. Certainly America is an extraordinary nation, unprecedented in its social constitution and many of its political principles. It is very rich and very powerful. It has done quite a lot of good in the world at various times, more than those who resent its prominence are willing to grant, but also its fair share of evil. In those terms, perhaps its greatness is unrivalled.

If, however, one thinks of “national greatness” diachronically, as referring to a people’s record of contributions to civilization—the arts and the sciences—then, of course, America cannot begin to compare to a truly great nation like, say, France. Admittedly, the French have had a couple of millennia head start on us, and at present do not seem to be spinning out Villons and Racines and Debussys and Rodins the way they used to. But, given how vast, violent, cretinous, and destructive American popular culture’s assault on civilization has been, it may be some time yet before our negative balance has been cleared.

Even taking a more synchronic view, however, I cannot see the US as the world’s greatest nation. Yes, it is a splendidly energetic, vibrant, multifarious, astonishingly ingenious and shockingly idiotic engine of cultural invention and destruction. Its people are uncommonly generous. The ease with which it integrates diverse peoples into a single living culture and polity is awe-inspiring.

But my narrow notion of what entitles a country to the designation “greatest” is a matter not only of the goodness of a nation’s folk, but of the “moral luck” of special circumstances; and the exigencies of history have denied America the luxury of such circumstances.

So, if you are interested, my nominee for “Greatest Nation on Earth,” at least at present, is Bhutan (or, as its natives call it, Druk Yul: “Dragonland”): the tiny and ravishingly beautiful mountain kingdom nestled between India and China at the Eastern end of the Himalayas. Until two years ago, it was technically an absolute monarchy, under the rule of the Wangchuk Dynasty; but the Wangchuk kings of recent decades have been so enlightened and benevolent that practically no one wanted any change in the political system.

Nevertheless, in 2006, evidently thinking it for the best, King Jigme Singye Wangchuk spontaneously decreed that his nation would become a parliamentary democracy, with a cabinet empowered to depose a bad king, and then abdicated in order to allow his son Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuk to preside over the transition. In 2008, the Bhutanese people reluctantly but dutifully cast their votes and brought the Peace and Prosperity party to power.

What has made Bhutan under the modern Wangchuks especially remarkable has been its strict stewardship of its own resources and traditions, which it has accomplished with very nearly a minimum of coercion or injustice (though there have been a few instances of both). The royal government has preserved the natural environment—forest, fields, and rivers—in pristine condition, in part through rigidly limiting tourism.

It has also jealously guarded the country’s civic aesthetics against the ravages of utilitarian drabness. No building in the nation may be constructed that does not follow the classical canons of Bhutanese architecture; almost every structure is an elegant affair, harmoniously proportioned and lavishly adorned in the traditional style: abstract figurations, deities, dragons, apotropaic phalluses—tumid, emissive, and immense. (I suppose I could do without that last curious cultural eccentricity, admittedly, but it all goes back to the lunatic tantric saint Drugpa Kunley; and I hear that it really does keep the demons away.)

On top of all this, though, the country boasts better healthcare, better education, and a more solvent economy than any of its neighbors. While resisting the worst of modernity, Bhutan has found a way to see to the needs of its people with a provident efficiency otherwise unknown in its part of the world.

True, Bhutan has no military power to speak of; its foreign policy is conducted by proxy, through India. But that means the Bhutanese are rarely obliged to violate their most venerated moral virtues (gentleness, humility, honor) in pursuit of some geopolitical end, or to soothe their consciences with repellant euphemisms like “collateral damage.”

And Bhutan has a dragon on its flag. Who would not want to pledge allegiance to a flag with a dragon on it?

Of course, not every nation can be a Bhutan. Perhaps Bhutan cannot be Bhutan indefinitely. With the advent of electoral politics, a political class may take shape, with all the corruption, cynicism, ambition, and habitual dishonesty that usually implies. Perhaps the recent, ill-advised introduction of television into the country will make the Bhutanese as moronic as San Franciscans and Londoners. And it will be hard for Bhutan to remain an island of peace amid the turbulent seas of history, especially with a ruthless and predatory neighbor like China lurking over its northern mountain ranges.

But, for now, Bhutan conforms better than any other modern state to my criteria for national greatness: a sane way of life, a thriving ecology, civilized aesthetic and ethical principles, an absolute prohibition on strip malls, and general harmlessness.

Oh, and dragons, of course—plenty of dragons.

David B. Hart is a contributing writer of First Things . His most recent book is Atheist Delusions: The Christian Revolution and Its Fashionable Enemies (Yale University Press).

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9.17.2010 | 4:18am
Ars Artium says:
Yes, one does sometimes long for a "Shan-gri-la" or, for those with more rustic tastes, a "Brigadoon." Such unanimity, handed down, freely chosen, uncorrupted, does give evidence of one possibility for human beings living in a small, sheltered geographical unit. America is on the other hand huge. Its unifying idea until now has been freedom not order. But it does seem that freedom really is only possible for a people who understand and share a frame of reference formed by basic moral concepts held in common. It was, in my opinion, that always fragile but present sense that did provide moments of greatness for America. Also the understanding that we are a work on progress. We fail, sometimes horribly, and then at least attempt to correct ourselves and to offer reparation.

Americans of good will do still have goodness as a goal but we are under profound, sustained attack from those who insist that we must erase the wisdom of the ages along with its errors - to propose and offer their moral heritage to young people is to impose on their "freedom."
9.17.2010 | 5:19am
Ioann says:
Of where there be dragons or Yankees, I'll take the Yanks.
9.17.2010 | 6:22am
Nathan Duffy says:
LOL. Provocateur. Contrarian.

"If, however, one thinks of “national greatness” diachronically, as referring to a people’s record of contributions to civilization—the arts and the sciences—then, of course, America cannot begin to compare to a truly great nation like, say, France. "

^^ That especially drove me berserk, just like you knew it would.
9.17.2010 | 7:22am
ENOUGH ROPE says:
Mr. Hart and his Maryland ancestors appear to have been blessed with the energy to earn the means to enable gentlemanly reflection, which provides enlightenment to those of us who do not have time or powers of discernment for observation of culture and society. I thank him for his comparison of Bhutan and the United States for it caused me to wonder if the unity, courtesy, civic honesty, and other virtues of Bhutan can become the norm in America.

Can a nation as large, diverse, and responsible for guarding world freedom as America become known as having a citizenry with the greatest virtue, wisdom, and culture on Earth? Yes. How? A very holy and wise religious leader yearned for a universal spiritual society that has for its foundation truth, its object justice, its operation freedom, and its driving principle love. America is one of the most religious nations on Earth. If we Americans all prayed for God's grace to become holy as saints, then we will become the greatest nation on Earth--until all the children of God in other nations join that universal spiritual society.
9.17.2010 | 8:04am
I appreciate your Maryland patriotism, though as a transplant to western Maryland born in Philadelphia I can't quite grasp it. I haven't lived in Pennsylvania for 40 years but I still feel more loyalty to my birth state than to any other. How can you beat William Penn, America's first (relatively) peaceful multicultural and tolerant society, Ben Franklin, the Declaration and Constitution and Liberty Bell, and all that? I say this not as someone with ancestors reaching back for centuries in my birth state, but as a second generation American with only one parent born in Pennsylvania.

However, I doubt that many children growing up nowadays in Pennsylvania learn much about the state's great history. I wonder if today's kids will grow up with the same kind of state loyalty that people of your generation and my generation often have.
9.17.2010 | 9:25am
@ Ioann
I prefer the dragons.

@ Judy Warner
I've heard of Pennsylvania. Nice peanut brittle. What I know about Maryland is that the crab cakes are delicious and can't be found anywhere outside the state. Everywhere else, what they call 'Maryland Crab Cakes' are an obscene parody of the real thing. I also learned on my last visit that the state sport is jousting. How cool is that? And the flag is incredible, and the law requires the flag pole to be capped with a Botany Cross. It's so wonderfully out of date.
9.17.2010 | 10:47am
Sean says:
Hart says,

"I cannot feel whatever my compatriots feel when they make wildly exorbitant claims about America’s unsurpassable epochal importance"


All true Americans enjoy making wildly exorbitant claims. What's the point of having a country if you can't make wildly exorbitant claims about it?
9.17.2010 | 10:56am
andrew says:
perhaps it is an urban legend, but i once read somewhere that one of the television shows now available in bhutan is "the sopranos."
9.17.2010 | 11:26am
2 andrew,

They won't really be free and happy, though, till they get American Idol. That should teach them how precious the right to vote is.
9.17.2010 | 12:39pm
Billy Bean says:
Andrew: "They won't really be free and happy, though, till they get American Idol. That should teach them how precious the right to vote is." Man, I wish I'd said that!
9.17.2010 | 1:25pm
TMR-Brat says:
The Best Country In The World is ... wait for it... Canada!
Canadians define themselves by what they are not, that is Americans.
Canadians are the most passionately committed to social justice, are more equal than other industrialized countries, are recognized around the world as universally polite, and are less vulgar and materialistic than Americans.
We also have a world-class city (Toronto), the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, universal-access medical care, and a cultural, educational and judicial elite that endorses not unbridled free speech but limits political and religious discussion to what will not contravene the polite norms of Canadian society.

Quebec? Low birth rates? Everybody has problems.

Jeffersonian democracy? The First Amendment? Free markets? Bah humbug. Who needs them.

Just don't take us too seriously.
9.17.2010 | 2:23pm
Ed Snyder says:
So go. What are your waiting for?
9.17.2010 | 3:23pm
charlene says:
Love Bhutan. Love the flag. Love the dragons. BUT it's next door to China. How long before it becomes another Tibet? Still there in body but not in spirit. Thanks, but I'm staying in the Greatest Nation on Earth.
9.17.2010 | 3:26pm
Linda L. says:
@ Ed Snyder

I'm pretty sure Dr. Hart said he doesn't want to live anywhere other than the US. The article isn't about the place he'd like to live, but what country deserves to be called the greatest on Earth.

I found it very amusing, myself. But I'm Canadian, so it doesn't raise any of my hackles.
9.17.2010 | 3:34pm
Indra says:
that sounds interesting. however, it is rather impractical to say Bhutan as the greatest nation on earth. please go through google to find out what ruthless actions by the wangchuk kings made over 100,000 of the citizens homeless. and hopefully you could find these homeless people, whose properties were seized before being evicted, raped, tortured, killed and houses burnt. you can find tehm in your country. 60000 are being resettled in your country now. over 30,000 have arrived and others are in process.
just type bhutanese refugees in google and first find out whether you project to call Bhutan a greatest nation will be fitted. never go hype. things have to be practical.

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9.17.2010 | 4:51pm
America is the mass form of Western civilization. It is the ordinary man's West.

Those of us who think Western civilization is all that might therefore think that America is all that too.

Or, as the author hints before changing the subject, saying that America is the greatest nation may be similar to saying that one's wife is the best little wife a guy could have. Its more about a Mike Fink style of expression than it is a propositional truth statement. Me, that Mike Fink stuff is one of the things I love about this country.
9.17.2010 | 5:42pm
Actually, Wales has a much better dragon flag; how heavily does the dragon flag weigh in the overall assessment of the greatest nation on earth? On the basis of the dragon flag, I choose Wales.
9.17.2010 | 8:16pm
Ananda says:
Please disregard Indra's remarks, or look up the relevant information from trustworthy sources. He is repeating discredited tales. Actually, the Wikipedia article seems fairly evenhanded.

There were problems with Nepalese immigrants, especially illegal immigrants, as well as riots and acts of terrorism (such as the burning of schools) from the 60's through the 80's at the southern border. In 1990, there was an expulsion of Nepalese who had settled illegally. Other Nepalese claimed refugee status is the hope of sharing in UN aid, even if they had never settled in Bhutan.

Claims of torture, massacre, rape, and mass theft of property are stories passed around by the Nepalese press, but thoroughly investigated and rejected as fabrications by international aid authorities.
9.17.2010 | 8:31pm
James Arnold says:
@Indra

What a load of lies. The history of the Nepali refugees from Bhutan is well known, and this business of torture and rape is ridiculous. The worst atrocities against Nepalese residents of Bhutan were committed by the Nepali radical movement, as part of their terrorist campaign to create a "refugee community" on the Indian side of the border.

The whole issue was dealt with badly on both sides, but the propaganda you're spouting has been exposed as false again and again.
9.18.2010 | 2:57am
TB says:
Go there then. Ingrate.
9.18.2010 | 5:34am
Brooklynite says:
One thing about America -- class snobbery is usually well hidden here. But just below the surface of this article is the author's contempt for us steerage-descended Americans with no proper appreciation for Debussy. That's why America is not the greatest nation, you see. Too full of us.
9.18.2010 | 6:47am
Sam says:
The USA is still the BEST Country on earth.
But no thanks to those currently in power.
Due to the debt load from the Socialist Democrats (House and Senate) since Jan, 2007 and Obama since jan 2009, we may become a Third World Country.
The US debt is now at: $13,474,830,999,948.68.
9.18.2010 | 10:26am
Mary Coswell says:
@ Brooklynite

Yeah, that must be it, contempt for the steerage-folk.

Or maybe this article is a satire on the whole idea of "We're the greatest nation on earth" being a respectable or meaningful expression of patriotism. Maybe it's an irritated jab at the people who shout out slogans in support of bad policy. I have to say, that's how I took it. I even thought the author was gently poking fun at his own ancestors. But maybe I'm a clumsy reader.
9.18.2010 | 10:34am
A Lyttle says:
Dear Brooklynite,
I would think it fairly obvious that the reason the author does not call the US the greatest nation on earth is because the whole idea is silly, not because it's full of people like you. Obviously the mention of France is meant to annoy Francophobic neo-cons, the people who were accusing the whole nation of cowardice because they wisely did not want to go on a stupid expedition into Iraq. And obviously Bhutan was chosen as an ironic counter-example: the most exotically unlike-America country he could think up.
9.18.2010 | 10:57am
DB Hart says:
All right, so my attempts at whimsy fell flat with some readers. A friend has alerted me to Mr (or Ms?) Brooklynite's contention that my essay was a subtle exercise in class prejudice. (And here I thought I was mocking such prejudice.)

For the record, no, that's silly. I tend to think the people who came over in steerage were for the most part better people than many of my ancestors. Some of my forebears were slave-holders, for goodness' sake, and had already stolen my native region from its original inhabitants before the great wave of European immigration began. Mr or Ms Brooklynite is correct, though, in suspecting that I think appreciation of Debussy a good thing in general (and, wonder of wonders, persons from any background are quite capable of it.)

Mr or Ms TB calls me an ingrate. I can't see why. I said I love my country; what more do you want? Should I also pretend that we have as rich a cultural history as France, just as a show of esprit de corps? Somehow it doesn't seem necessary to me.

For the record, I don't *really* think Bhutan is the Greatest Nation on Earth. I don't think there is a greatest nation. And one of the commentators above reminded me of the Nepali-Bhutanese Refugee question, which is one of the more confusing and troubling tales in that region's recent history. And, of course, Bhutan has survived in part by being suspicious of the outside world and impatient with "foreign" ethnic claims, none of which is particularly admirable. So perhaps Bhutan is no Bhutan.

But, to make things crystal clear, let me simply say it: the reason the US is not the world's greatest nation is that Sean Hannity says it is. QED, summum indubitabile.
9.18.2010 | 4:57pm
puspa says:
Your article to the rulers of Bhutan not to the general public.Yes Bhutan is peaceful country no one has doubt. Other side of Bhutan also shown to the world. There are more then 100000 refugees from Bhutan mostly of Nepalese origin and sharshop. Bhutan is a country a immigrant . Ruler were from Tibet and southern belt dulled by the Nepalese origin.
9.18.2010 | 6:44pm
TB says:
Cultural history? That's your measure? I like France more than most nations on earth. It is now an essentially free nation and a central part of western civilization. But its ultimate inferiority to the United States has less to do with the paintings and architecture of five centuries ago and more to do with the fact that the American Revolution created a nation while the French Revolution created a purge. For the entirety of the existence of the US, the French nation has birthed world tyrants, knelt before foreign tyrants, and cannibalized a great inheritance. Before that Louis was the state. This draws your admiration -- not for paintings and verse and architecture, but for the nation?

What you said is that Maryland, not the United States, is the home to which you're devoted. What a dismissal of your 300 million countrymen. What a myopic and provincial perspective for someone who clearly considers himself a universalist. But I suppose any distance you can create between yourself and that plebeian prole Sean Hannity is good distance.
9.18.2010 | 6:45pm
Daniel L. says:
The figure of 100,000 refugees is highly dubious. There have been over 100,000 Nepalese in refugee camps in Northern Nepal, but how many of those are actually former residents of Bhutan, rather than Nepalis looking for UN aid, is hard to say. Moreover, the violent incidents that led to the exodus of the initial 5000 from Bhutan were hardly the fault only of the Bhutanese military; even the NY Times reported that there were incursions of Nepalese terrorists over the border, as well as terrorist acts.

Bhutan should have dealt with its illegal immigrant problem more competently, but that is not the same thing as saying it was guilty of ethnic cleansing.
9.18.2010 | 7:40pm
fjelly says:
Thousands of Bhutanese, who have lived in refugee camps in Nepal for many years, are being resettled in the United States right now because neither Bhutan nor Nepal wants them. Some are settling in Wisconsin where Lutheran Social Services is the acting resettlement agency and local Lutheran churches have stepped forward to act as sponsors and mentors to help families get established. Many arrive with significant needs such as health and dental problems (some significant), illiteracy, and limited or no English. The American taxpayer foots the bill to meet these needs.

Americans are a generous and caring people who act on those values in real, concrete ways. Regarding the Bhutanese refugees, give them 3 generations and most will have moved up and some will be at or near the top of American society. The greatness of America.
9.18.2010 | 7:40pm
James says:
I would welcome criticism from Mr. Hart on the writings of Dr. Robert M. Price, aka The Bible Geek. Price is Professor of Theology and Scriptural Studies, Colemon Theological Seminary and author of numerous books including Jesus is Dead and The Incredible Shrinking Son of Man. Price argues that Christ never existed.

From Price's biography:

Robert M. Price (born July 7, 1954) is a Mississippian by birth, lived in New Jersey for most of his life, and has recently resettled in North Carolina. After early involvement in a fundamentalist Baptist church, he went on to become a leader in the Montclair State College chapter of the Inter-Varsity Christian Fellowship. Having developed a keen interest in apologetics (the defense of the faith on intellectual grounds), Bob went on to enroll at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, where he received an MTS degree in New Testament. Billy Graham was the commencement speaker.

It was during this period, 1977-78, however, that Bob began to reassess his faith, deciding at length that traditional Christianity simply did not have either the historical credentials or the intellectual cogency its defenders claimed for it. Embarking on a wide program of reading religious thinkers and theologians from other traditions, as well as the sociology, anthropology, and psychology of religion, he soon considered himself a theological liberal in the camp of Paul Tillich. He received the Ph.D. degree in systematic theology from Drew University in 1981.

After some years teaching in the religious studies department of Mount Olive College in North Carolina, Price returned to New Jersey to pastor First Baptist Church of Montclair, the first pastorate, many years before, of liberal preacher Harry Emerson Fosdick. Price soon enrolled in a second doctoral program at Drew, receiving the Ph.D. in New Testament in 1993. These studies, together with his encounter with the writings of Don Cupitt, Jacques Derrida, and the New Testament critics of the Nineteenth Century, rapidly eroded his liberal Christian stance, and Price resigned his pastorate in 1994. A brief flirtation with Unitarian Universalism disenchanted him even with this liberal extreme of institutional religion. For six years Bob and Carol led a living room church called The Grail. Now, back in North Carolina, he attends the Episcopal Church and keeps his mouth shut.

Robert M. Price is Professor of Biblical Criticism at the Center for Inquiry Institute as well as the editor of The Journal of Higher Criticism. His books include Beyond Born Again, The Widow Traditions in Luke-Acts: A Feminist-Critical Scrutiny, Deconstructing Jesus, and The Incredible Shrinking Son of Man. Forthcoming titles are The Crisis of Biblical Authority, Jesus Christ Superstar: A Redactional Study of a Modern Gospel, The Da Vinci Controversy and The Amazing Colossal Apostle.
9.18.2010 | 7:58pm
Mark VA says:
For me, the criterion of greatness is humility in the service of God and neighbour. What cultural, educational, or economic achievements could ever be of more value than being humble? These latter things can only aspire to true value when rooted in the ground of humility.

Those living in Maryland and Pennsylvania are near a group of people who put humility in the center of their lives. These people literally live at a slower pace than the rest of us, and would never say that their culture is great.

So I'll say it for them: their culture is rich, and the rest of us should examine it and learn from it.
9.19.2010 | 3:18am
Salt Lick says:
America is the greatest nation on earth because it has given the most freedom and opportunity to the most people -- many outside its borders -- than any other nation in history.

The results of this -- 300 pound Wal-Mart shoppers, Jerry Springer, Danielle Steele, Barack Obama, Madonna, Oprah, McDonalds, the Ford Expedition, etc -- are sometimes disgusting to those of us who prefer a bit more restraint, sensibility, and appreciation of things of the mind, but look at where we are today. We are being ruled by an elite which thinks it is all the better things, but as has ALWAYS happened throughout history, that elite has begun to rot with high self-regard.

Give me freedom. It's messy, ugly, and slow, but it's the only way.
9.19.2010 | 5:42am
Maria V . says:
Thank you for the comments above that help to clarify .

Hope that readers would use this as an occasion to also brush up on the essential and very real diffrences between Buddism and Christianity ( good article at Ignatius Insight ) ; the post by @james reminds one of how sacraments , esp. confession and trust in the presence of a compassionate Mother may be very necessary to deal with the attacks on faith !
9.19.2010 | 7:39am
May I comment that TB is a humourless soul who apparently can't read and who didn't get the point of this column. I didn't see any dismissal of 300 million Americans, or of America at all--only of a kind of silly rhetoric. As for Sean Hannity, I assume Dr. Hart dislikes him not because he's a prole, but because he's a slobbering idiot who screams rather than discusses, and yells slogans rather than talks ideas. Just a guess.
9.19.2010 | 7:49am
Mr. TB,

First, get a life.

Second, learn to read. Hart said he was not raised with the thought of being American at the front of his mind because the primary emphasis in his upbringing was Maryland. He then says he does love his country, but perhaps the way he was raised makes it impossible for him to express that love through wild claims of unsurpassable greatness. That all makes sense to me, and doesn't offend me. It is possible to love one's country and not like the habit Americans (like that moron Hannity) have of yelling "We're number 1" all the time.

Third, you come across as a fool with your exaggerated indignation, especially since you obviously didn't "get" this article. If you really think the refusal to say America=Greatest Nation Ever is a treasonable or aristocratic insult to 300 million Americans, you need to go get your Thorazine prescription refilled.
9.19.2010 | 7:56am
I can understand all this mushiness about State loyalties, but let us not go overboard here. Let us all enjoy our local allegiances as can no other country in the world. I love my native Minnesota: Land of 10,000 Lakes, the North Star State, 10 trillion mosquitos, the Minnesota Twins and the Vikings,"It's not the heat-it's the humidity.", 6 feet of snow for 9 months of the year. But for my money, if it wasn't for my kids and grandkids who live here, I would beat it to California in a heartbeat. Ya, shure, you betcha!
9.19.2010 | 8:07am
DB Hart says:
Ah, Mr TB--may I call you Mr Tuberculosis, or is that too formal?--I didn't say France enjoys my unlimited admiration. I said that, if one were to measure a nation's greatness by the criterion of its contributions to civilization, the US could not compare to France. I did not, however, suggest that that is my sole criterion; I was merely running through the various meanings one might attach to the phrase "greatest nation."

Nor did I say that Maryland alone is the home to which I am devoted. I said only that I was raised with a firm sense of being a Marylander and a vague sense of being an American, and that that may be why my love of country does not manifest itself in certain ways. I tend to think the love of one's country is a noble emotion, but that it is most genuine when it is entangled in real and living things--people, a shared history or memory, community, cultural artifacts like Ella's Verve albums or the infield fly rule--and not when it devolves into chest-beating claims regarding one's country's cosmic importance. America works in an American way, for Americans. It has great virtues and great faults. It people are generous beyond belief. It is the greatest America in the world.

As for my remarks on Mr Hannity, I dislike him because he is a rhetorical thug. He invites guests with whom he disagrees onto his program, and then interrupts them constantly and brutally, and yells at them, and then, when all else fails, screeches "This is the greatest nation on Earth! We defeated the Nazis, the communists...!" He is a barbarian, not because of his social class, but because of his social manners. It was in fact one such exchange that prompted this piece. I was in a airport cafe at the time, and watching him abuse his guest made my lousy weak coffee taste all the worse.
9.19.2010 | 8:51am
James says:
The only redeeming quality I've observed in Sean Hannity is his the support held lends to charities that assist wounded soldiers. That millions of Americans are enthralled by Hannity's sophomoric bromide fest with its unremitting blinking lights and bottle blondes with their cleavage displayed confirms Mr. Hart's point that we live in a cultural wasteland. Imagine a popular culture where Terry Teachout had a program that was watched by millions.

DAVID, YOU'RE A GREAT AMERICAN!!!!
9.19.2010 | 9:25am
Paul says:
Dr. Hart,

I very much appreciate the whimsy (and not the mere attempt at it). The piece was thoroughly enjoyable to read.

But given the dread seriousness at some of the replies, let me take a stab at some moments of civilizational achievement on these shores. I think philosophy constitutes a civilizational achievement. And I know that you much prefer continental philosophy to the analytic tradition. But some of us think there to be great merit in the analytic tradition--especially since the substantive turn. So that I think the recovery and development of philosophical theology within American analytic philosophy and the so-called Christian Movement more generally must be accounted not just American achievements but as significant ones. The work of folks like William Alston or Al Plantinga or Nick Wolterstorff are of no small moment. Indeed, the work of these folks in epistemology is more impressive than anything in European thought from the Enlightenment forward (so I would argue). And what of folks like Robert Merrihew Adams or Marilyn McCord Adams or Eleonore Stump or Rob Koons or Thomas Flint or J. Budziszewski or Hadley Arkes? Or what of the captivating and riveting work of David Bentley Hart . . . (But I don't suppose you can comment on that)?

And what about accomplishments in political thought. It seems to me that Madison and Hamilton and James Wilson were political thinkers and statesmen of first rank (and perhaps lawgivers at least equal to Solon or Lycurgus?). To be sure, Jefferson's political thought leaves much to be desired. But Jefferson was never one of the first rate intellects among our storied statesmen-philosophers.

And as for music--don't conductors and composers like Bernstein or Robert Shaw merit attention? Or what of Randall Thompson's Peacable Kingdom? Indeed, during it's height, the Cleveland Orchestra, which performed in the stunning Severance Hall, was perhaps the preeminent Orchestra with respect to the performance of Beethoven (no orchestra in the world was better, at least). I grew up in Northeast Ohio, to be sure. But I knew the world of classical music well enough to know just how good that orchestra was.

And in literature, shall we not celebrate Buechner and Dillard as well as Percy and maybe even Twain or Hemingway (whose philosophy I cannot stand but who managed to make Old Man and the Sea an interesting read) or Melville or Poe. Perhaps there's not quite a Dickens or a Dostoevsky or a Milton or a Homer or a Virgil (but, then, who has France had to rival those?).

And finally, what of American achievements in science? Surely such achievements are great cultural moments and surely we have had our share.

You see, I've managed to use your blog in order to pick a fight with that Frenchman, Alexis De Tocqueville (whose work I nevertheless hold in high regard). But I hope you will take my offering here in the same spirit in which you put forth your own essay.
9.19.2010 | 10:05am
A Lyttle says:
TB says: "the American Revolution created a nation while the French Revolution created a purge. For the entirety of the existence of the US, the French nation has birthed world tyrants, knelt before foreign tyrants, and cannibalized a great inheritance. Before that Louis was the state."

I seem to remember the free French fighting pretty bravely against the Nazis, both during the Blitzkrieg and then, when they had little or no support, during the occupation. Certainly the incredible number of battlefield casualties suffered during Germany's invasion suggests the French weren't exactly cowards.

But, if it's moral failings that offend you, then does it matter that the US created a nation that permitted slavery, that stole half of Mexico, that displaced and massacred the native peoples, that massacred the Moros in the Philippines, that fire-bombed Japanese civilians and dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that tolerated lynch-law for more than a century, that had free kill zones in Vietnam...etc. (That's the problem with history: everyone looks bad most of the time.) And which elements of modern US culture win your highest admiration: Public schooling? The abortion laws? Hip-hop?

I love America, but your notion that our history is somehow morally more sterling than France's is ludicrous and base.

Anyway, I'm British, actually, so it's none of my business. I just live here (and have applied for citizenship).
9.19.2010 | 12:08pm
TB says:
A "treasonable" insult? Who accused him of treason? It's a free country, he can be as passionate or dispassionate as he wishes. No one is trying to truss him up.

I don't really enjoy Sean Hannity either. But I see no difference between him and fifty other television talkers of varying political persuasions, except that his sloganeering is deployed in defense of America's record when the elite impulse is to run her down. A convenient target.

Chest-beating is to be generally discouraged. But most Americans, I think, feel their nation to be uniquely great because of her uniquely significant contributions to liberty. No one expects most foreigners to understand this. But it's discouraging when one's own countrymen seem not to.

That said, I understand that the author's original post was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Fortunately, his sense of humor need not meet with my editorial approval in this country.
9.19.2010 | 2:02pm
TB says:
The "free French" and not Vichy is representative for you, is it? The collapse of the Maginot line and the immediate surrender of the nation to Hitler strikes you as "pretty brave" fighting, does it? You see no difference between a world-totalitarian Napoleon and a republic of laws, do you? Besides which, I see no actual argument in your post contrary to the main point -- the American Revolution birthed a nation, the French Revolution consumed itself.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are your moral atrocities? Really? Even given the horrific Pacific campaign, the millions of lives saved by that decision and the decades-long brutality of the Japanese against soldier, civilian and prisoner alike? The Western capacity for convenient self-flagellation at the expense of our more challenged forbears knows no bounds. Yours is a comfortable sentiment for a comfortable age.

As for slavery, I find it more remarkable that an institution that was accepted worldwide since the dawn of man was abolished less than eighty years after the Declaration of Independence, and at such a remarkable cost in human life, despite the economic dependence of half the nation on the peculiar institution (neither Britain nor France was bound to a cotton economy). A testament to the capacity for a free republic to work constantly away from its imperfections and towards its founding ideals.

Does anyone truly think the American southwest would be better off today as part of a corrupt and economically near-feudal narco-state? In what sense was the decrepit heir of a defunct Spanish empire metaphysically entitled to this territory?

The natives were badly treated. Did that start in 1776, or was the remorseless push of western civilization inevitably going to cause the same result to a stone-age culture regardless of the particular western flag?

As for modern American culture, there's lots to despise but lots to celebrate. I would start by comparing religiosity and church attendance in France and in the US. Throw Britain into the mix too if you'd like. Is there any meaningful pro-life movement in France?
9.19.2010 | 2:04pm
TB says:
Regarding slavery, I obviously should have said slightly "more than" 80 years. My apologies for the error.
9.19.2010 | 2:43pm
Matt says:
@Judy K. Warner: "I wonder if today's kids will grow up with the same kind of state loyalty that people of your generation and my generation often have."

I'm 23, an at-least-fourth-generation Nebraskan (in exile in MO now, sadly), and care far more for my state than for the Union. I may be somewhat unusual among young people, but I think not entirely odd.
9.19.2010 | 3:01pm
Bec says:
If you are very easily offended or cannot take a joke (or maybe I should say, satire), don't read Mr. Hart. I personally find him very entertaining and thought provoking but if you can't handle it, please don't have a fit and completely misread him in your emotion agitation.

You can be thankful for where you live and not think your country is the epitome of perfection and that everyone should be like us. Thank you for the reminder!
9.19.2010 | 4:20pm
TB says: "most Americans, I think, feel their nation to be uniquely great because of her uniquely significant contributions to liberty."

Yes, Americans do like to delude themselves of their "uniquely significant contributions to liberty." They've certainly made contributions to THEIR liberty (well, they were a bit slow getting around to extending those liberties to Americans with African ancestors, or Americans descended from the original indigenes, but you get the point). As for the Mexican-American war, is it really your argument that it's all right to steal half a country, evict its inhabitants, and then argue after the fact that the thief did a better job running the place? A rather radically consequentialist approach to history.

The revolting stupidity of TB's remarks about the French during WW II, however, aren't quite as quaint. So the French were unprepared for the sudden ruthless onslaught of the Germans and were quickly defeated; but roughly 218,000 French soldiers died trying to drive the Germans off, so only a squalid little simpleton would accuse the French of simply limply folding up. Even more French civilians died as a result of the occupation and in the resistance.

As for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they were war crimes, as was the fire-bombing of Tokyo and the British fire-bombing of German cities after the war was effectively over. There was no need to invade Japan immediately, and the A-bomb could have been demonstrated without using civilian populations as a target. But that wasn't the point.
9.19.2010 | 6:00pm
TB says:
I note that while I seem to have been sized for the mantle of the tasteless renegade around here, it is not myself but others who have resorted to name-calling. The most salty quotes I can find in my own contributions are "comfortable sentiment for a comfortable age" and "a myopic and provincial perspective"; meanwhile Lytte refers to the "revolting stupidity" of this "squalid little simpleton" without actually addressing the reality of the Vichy regime. Charming.

Ah well. I don't expect a Brit to necessarily be familiar with the intricacies of our Civil War, but ignoring the difficulties of doing away with slavery in a cotton economy is a bit rich coming from a subject of the nation that bequeathed the institution to us in the first place and then provided the markets for the plantations' product. Likewise as to American "colonialism" ; quite bold coming from the expropriators of half the world. At least America has restricted itself to its own continent. Despite every opportunity for aggrandizement after World War II, the Marshall Plan was the only "instrusion" on Europe by the States.

The scholarship strongly refutes Lytte's suggestion that the Atomic bomb could have ended the war through a mere demonstration (Max Hastings' "Retribution" on the late days of the Pacific campaign is a good start on this topic). Note that it took substantial time for Japan to finally surrender even after both bombs had actually been dropped, and even then only the Emperor's personal intercession was sufficient to finally overrule the high counsel's determination to fight on. Note repeated Kamikaze attacks that took hundreds of American lives for each suicidal Japanese. Note that the best thing that could happen to a Japanese pilot was capture by American vessels and subsequent transfer to a safe POW camp, while the worst thing that could happen to an American pilot was capture by the Japanese, inevitably followed by a brief interrogation and either a beheading or a fall into the ocean while wearing iron boots. No, for Lytte the Japanese fanaticism and intransigence with which Truman was compelled to deal means nothing; neither does the president's obligation to the hundreds of thousands of men who had already waged one of the most horrific campaigns in history. Truman was just a vengeful war criminal, you see, and America's refusal to credit Imperial Japan's wager that it could retain its aggressively military regime via a negotiated settlement by using a constant stream of Japanese and American blood as diplomatic currency was a "war crime." What shame upon the Stars and Stripes!

From this I take Lytte to be one of those for whom America is mostly unique in the outsized quality of her sins. "Theft of the southwest," "war crimes" of Hiroshima/Nagasaki, etc. That Howard Zinn book must have really packed a punch. But the best indicia of this blinkered perspective is that he calls the American belief in the unique contributions of this nation to liberty "delusions." A few questions: how many functioning republics existed in the world in 1776? Had any modern nation attempted true self-government before the Americans insisted on it? Is it possible that the Declaration of Independence and the nation it birthed have had some meaningful impact in spreading the idea of liberty across the globe? Does the oldest continually surviving republic deserve any substantial credit for the worldwide explosion in democracy that began in the 19th century? Or for the defeat of the fascist, imperialist and communist regimes of the 20th century that so threatened continued democratic expansion?

I wonder in the end why someone so convinced of America's depravity would choose to come here. Surely there must be somewhere without such a dark history, bleak culture and egomaniacal people, where one could hang one's hat?
9.19.2010 | 6:59pm
TB says:
I note also, in retrospect, that my original comment does fail to meet the lofty standard of discourse I've set for myself. In light of that and in light of the original poster's good humor since then, it is cheerfully withdrawn and I beg his pardon. We are all sometimes too readily passionate. I will look harder for the particular charms of Maryland next time I visit.

By the way, the American southwest was gained via treaty at the end of the Mexican-American War, a contest for which both sides itched but immediately caused by Mexican aggression on the American side of the border. Lytte is thus against America ending wars by advantageous treaty (Mexico) and against America credibly demanding abject surrender (Japan). Is there any means by which America may victoriously end her wars that does not garner Lytte's moral censure?
9.19.2010 | 7:15pm
andrew says:
the plain light of reason tells me it is never morally legitimate to target civilians indiscriminately. the attacks on hiroshima and nagasaki were unnecessary atrocities, methinks. what's more, weak consequentialist arguments about "hypothetical lives saved" say more about those who adopt such arguments than about the historical event itself.
9.19.2010 | 9:18pm
A Lyttle says:
TB seems not to have noticed how my last name is spelled. 'Lyttle'--rhymes with 'little'.

I want to become an American because I love America and think it's a marvelous country. That doesn't oblige me to pretend it's history is any less full of disgraceful behaviour than any other country's.

Your knowledge of the history of the Mexican-American war is small, I perceive. Even General Grant called the American participation the most sordid episode in the history of statecraft. All wars tend to end by way of treaty; that doesn't make them good wars. I also submit that I know the history of the American Civil War far better than TB can guess, or (I suspect) can match.

I apologize if my words regarding his squalid insults of the French in WW II offended him. He speaks of the Vichy government as though it were representative of the French people or of their war effort. He coarsely insults a whole nation for the alarming crime of being defeated by the Germans in an unprovoked, overwhelming, and merciless attack, and this despite the huge casualties the French military suffered defending their country and fellow citizens. Francophobe jokes about French 'cowardice' or passivity before dictators are tasteless displays of ignorance, and are rather craven. But, nevertheless, I'm sorry. Slander anyone you like.
9.19.2010 | 10:32pm
Wes says:
A Lyttle: The United States also paid Mexico $15million for the Southwest. How many other conquests in history were paid for monetarily? You could basically say that it was eminent domain on a continental level. The United States probably would have done the same thing if Napoleon hadn't sold us the Louisiana Purchase in 1803. America didn't fight in the Napoleonic Wars, because most Americans at the time didn't think that Napoleon was a direct threat to the U.S. But Jefferson and Congress did pass an economically disastrous trade embargo on France, and if we hadn't had Louisiana at that time, I'm sure we would have made war on France. If Britain and its allies hadn't beat Napoleon, then I'm sure that France would have eventually made war on the United States to get Louisiana back and maybe even get extra North American territory beyond Louisiana

Andrew: The atomic bombings on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not indiscriminate targetings of civilians. They were carried out for the express purpose of forcing Japan to unconditionally surrender immediately. If Japan hadn't surrendered after the bombing of Nagasaki, then the U.S. and its allies would have been forced to invade Japan and millions of American, Allied, and Japanese soldiers and Japanese civilians would have been killed. Japan trained all of its people, both military and civilian to fight to the death. This had its origins in Japan's centuries old samurai warrior culture, with the bushido code of honor and hari kari suicide pact, which some Japanese people actually honored when Japan surrendered. This is also why the United States let Japan keep its emperor, even though he was guilty of war crimes, because the U.S. was afraid that a large percentage of the Japanese population might commit hari kari in reaction.
9.19.2010 | 11:44pm
Wes says:
A Lyttle:

The French surrendered as soon as the Germans overran Paris. Whereas the British, under the courageous leadership of Winston Churchill, who told them to keep on fighting, continued fighting the Germans in the Battle of Britain as many of their cities were bombed and their people had to flee to the countryside to take cover. Being British you should know this. TB mentioned earlier about the Maginot Line between France and Germany. This militarized zone was supposed to keep Germany from invading France. But then Germany, under Hitler, decided instead to invade Belgium to get to France, as it had done during World War I. France obviously should have militarized its border with Belgium too, or even better worked with the Belgians to militarize their border with Germany.
9.20.2010 | 12:29am
TB says:
A Lyttle -- sorry for misspelling your handle. No offense taken; I have thick skin. The point on rhetoric was just an observation.

Welcome to America (as a prospective citizen; I've no idea how long you've resided here, but citizenship and residency are not the same). No one here thinks America is the New Jerusalem. I certainly don't. There are dark pages in our history and villains to be found, as with any nation in a fallen world. But Americans largely hold to the belief that, on the whole, our enterprise has been a uniquely noble one and a great boon to liberty. You call this "deluded." I object to those who hold America to an impossible standard; for instance excoriating America in particular for its 90-year tolerance of an institution that was accepted by every nation from 5000 B.C. through the dawn of the 19th century, notwithstanding that we inherited that institution, began our existence in grave economic dependence on it and endured far more excruciating pain to excise it than any other nation. If you're going to become an American, maybe try at least understanding why so many of your future countrymen think this place is special rather than dismissing them as "deluded" cranks.

As for my "slander" of the French, the French Assembly voted Vichy into power and collaborated with the Nazis in hunting down Jews. I understand that this was under circumstances of duress. All credit to the individual free French who were the exceptions, but my point was regarding the relative blows actually struck by whole nations for the cause of liberty. My original point was that France spent the 19th century fostering tyranny and the 20th kneeling to it. The fact that France took the knee under duress changes nothing. Such decisions are always made at times of crisis

I'm fully aware that many Americans opposed the Mexican War. Why you went with Grant rather than Lincoln baffles me though. Regardless, as for our relative intellectual foundations, don't you think veiled intimations of hidden knowledge and wry speculations of an interlocutor's "suspected" ignorance are a bit gauche? "Regardless of the points we've made in this actual debate on atheism, I'd like to mention that I suspect Mr. Dawkins has very little foundation in astronomy!" If you want to end the conversation by telling everyone to just trust you and not the other guy, because you're smart and he's dumb, why not just say that?
9.20.2010 | 6:25am
DIanne says:
Hope Bhutan enjoys it while they have it. The muslims will eventually make their way there. And India was not successful in protecting Kashmir from invading arab muslims - who claimed, as they always do, that the "struggle for liberation" was a homegrown grassroots struggle by Kashmiris from the oppression of India. So Bhutan's future is probably not so bright as one would wish. Best of luck to them, tho.
9.20.2010 | 8:21am
A Lyttle says:
Dear Wes,
The French did not enjoy the luxury of having the English Channel between them and the German battalions. Yes, the British were brave during the battle of Britain, no question. But to suggest that the French were any less so, because they could not stop the tanks the way the cliffs of Dover could, is just a bit uncouth. As for militarizing their border better--well, a lot of nations were unprepared for Hitler actually doing the things he said he would do. It's hard to believe a psychotic when he rants. But the French also had not been building a war machine that could have stopped the German Blitz, at the Maginot Line or in Belgium.

Dear TB,
Do you actually believe that twaddle or are you just sticking to your guns out of embarrassment? 'Took the knee'? Glad I've been here long enough to recognize the terminology. They were conquered, they were occupied, their army had died in hundreds of thousands on the battlefield and had not been able to stop the German advance. They did not 'accommodate' as a nation; a puppet government was set up under clear and unequivocal instructions from the German command in Paris, as would have happened in any nation under such circumstances. Look, as a Brit I get as much pleasure out of making silly remarks about the French as anyone else, but these sorts of remarks are simply dishonourable and tawdry.
9.21.2010 | 6:35am
while British and French generals made terrible miscalculations in 1940 I too await evidence that cowardice and lack of fighting spirit among individual french soldiers, sailors and airmen played in role in the military disaster as TB is attempting to imply...I think if he examines the record he will find that in those situations where they were well lead the french army proved quite capable of taking on the germans (especially where they could use their heavy Char bis tanks in numbers)....i think he will also find that french airmen, often flying second rate fighters like the Curtis Hawk, put up a better fight than they are given credit for....so, the disaster of 1940 was surely a failure of planning and leadership not of courage and if there is a serious military historian who says otherwise i would be curious to know
9.22.2010 | 7:11am
Richard says:
The French cowards? Tell that to Wellington or the German troops who survived the battle of Verdun.

The allied high command made a fatal error by leaving their left flank insufficiently guarded. The British and French had the military resources to have defeated Hitler in the Blitzkrieg. The generals blundered it away.

Best,

Richard
9.23.2010 | 4:56am
David,

This piece seems undignified and uncalled for. Beneath you. If the point is to make fun of Sean Hannity types, I guess shooting fish in a barrel has its place. I'm not sure what the purpose of that sort of critique is in a public forum dedicated to talking about public life and religion in America. But given other things you've written, this seems to show an unseriousness, a profound moral unseriousness, when it comes to politics. You seem to think that patriotism, at best, is sort of silly.

Yet the same regime which nurtured and protected and made and makes Maryland possible is the one which gives you the opportunity to do what you do. I know you know this, and are grateful for it. But you seem to use this freedom and your ample gifts to teach your readers, which include many talented, well educated youths in this country, to similarly regard political struggle and public life in the “modern world” as best ignored and mocked.

After all, the very Constitution of our regime is fundamentally modern, you seem to say. The enlightenment, with its own roots in the worser sides of medieval philosophy, produced ‘Merica. The seeds are now coming into their fully poisonous bloom, goes the narrative, and if we are luck and enlightened enough at least we will all be reminded that we truly belong to the city of God. Hold on to that fact, and become a passive martyr, whispering about the evils surrounding you to those smart enough to understand.

This sort of thinking, I say, is wholly modern. It tacitly assumes that politics and/or history trumps all. It assumes that “modernity” has arrived and is rotten to the core, and nothing can be done about it except to despair on a funeral pyre or hide in or try to create some sort of shire protected by the very regime and people one despises and have babies (I'm okay with the having babies part, but I reject the rest). It assumes that Christianity simply cannot handle a regime in which self governance is required to a greater degree than most regimes—that Christianity is simply too weak to deal with widespread freedom. The Church, if one digs beneath to the premises of this line of thinking, is too weak to win a competitive cultural race among other religions and ideologies. The Church, if one digs deep enough here, is unable to deal with politics. It is unable to educate its members, and unable to evangelize those outside of it.

So which is it? If political life and partisanship and patriotism are so silly, then why do you seem to think that the church can only flourish when it has government on its side?

And yet. And yet. You and the people you influence were/are often to be seen breathing within the largest educational edifice from cradle to PhD grave that Christendom has ever seen, and it exists within this country and is Catholic. And from within that edifice, which is free to educate millions as it sees fit every day, you and yours will blame the form of regime and the age we live in for being modern and corrupt to its core. Is the state of that edifice the thought of HISTORY, which has now entered into intrinsically evil MODERNITY? Is the state of that edifice the fault of the U.S. Constitution and the sort of nation it formed? With articles like this methinks you play the role of what the Irish call the “pint critic” while ‘Merica burns.

You will decry the modern academy, and the state of the Church. For it is all infected with modernity, which is bound up in modern politics, and modern people who make modern laws…people who are savage, unsalvageable, and incorrigible. Alternatively, another variant of person on your theme will tell us smugly that academia isn’t so bad, and neither is the state of the church. Either way, both sides sneer at the many and the regime and the laws that makes every aspect of their life possible—the highest purely human community, the highest natural community, for all their talk of the common good, will be laughed at, mocked, and considered unseriously. More than that, it will be blamed. It is, after all, “modern.”

Might it may in fact be the case that the members of the highest community to which we claim to belong (which is only partially earthbound, and looks to something more than human to unite and lead it), should said highest community actually believe it is what it claims itself to be, ought to stop blaming the age/history and/or the U.S. Constition/regime and look very closely at itself? Can Christianity not engage with the community of which it is a part? Must it retreat? Where will it then go? It will, after all, have to then create its own political community, because you can't escape politics. Is Christianity prevented in this regime from persuading those ignorant patriotic masses of the truth? Is it so weak as to NEED a confessional state in order to thrive or even survive?

If that latter question is answered in the affirmative, I want no part in it. I want no part of a sham religion that can only exist by forcing the “ignorant masses” into virtue with threat of punishment. I want no part of a sham religion that can only exist in an academic fantasy world that sneers at reality and human nature as it is. I want no part of a sham religion that only exists in historical imaginations, be they looking backwards to the perfect past or forwards to the perfect future. That’s not the gospel, nor is it the Church.

Are we going to blame the document and the regime that created our political institutions for our current ills? Are you going to blame history/modernity? Are you going to blame Fox News and all the huddled, patriotic masses? All that dirty partisanship into which political life and human nature as it is must wade if it is to embrace the community within which it lives?

This isn’t a joke, nor is it an academic exercise. This goes to the heart of what the hell Christianity is and what we ought to do with our lives here on earth.

The real irony here is that by writing his articles, Hart and others like him betray themselves. They don’t actually think that all we can do is separate ourselves from the world. They don’t actually think the best advice is to shun politics. They don’t actually want to quell public-spiritedness. We know this because they don’t stop writing for the public, in forums such as “On the Square.” They don’t stop saying things of real worth and insight. They speak them out loud. I just wish they’d stop contradicting themselves when they turn to politics.

I mean this in all sincerity as a question to conservativish interlectuals in general and yourself in particular.

-Matt
9.23.2010 | 10:28am
AG says:
Contra the argumentum ad hannity, I bet that if you take a cross-sample of the Americans who agree that the US is the best country on earth and those who don't, the first group as a whole will be better patriots, better Christians, and kinder, more charitable people.
9.24.2010 | 9:10am
DBH writes: "Should I also pretend that we have as rich a cultural history as France, just as a show of esprit de corps?"

Brilliant -- "esprit de corps." If you have to use French even to talk about camaraderie (ouch -- also French) . . .

DBH, your wit and wisdom are a blessing.
9.27.2010 | 11:13am
A. Lyttle says:
May I remark that Matt Peterson's screed, apart from missing the point, is simply insane? This hysterical fellow attributes all sorts of sentiments to Dr Hart that are to be found absolutely nowhere in this column, or in any article of his I have ever read.

I'm also going to assume that, in addressing Dr Hart by his Christian name, this strange and excitable man is not acting upon prior acquaintance, but is merely being presumptuous.

For God's sake, man, recognize a light satire for what it is, and for what thoughts it is meant to provoke, and stop hyperventilating.
9.29.2010 | 10:06am
Matt says:
I realize the light satire for what it is, and I do find it funny (the dragon bit especially--all for that) but I find it wanting. And the fact it is so light is what bothers me.

I find the sentiments hinted at and said outright in his other articles, and in the fact he calls himself an "anarchist-monarchist," and in all he blames on liberal democracy and "modernity". Calling yourself an "anarchist-monarchist", although probably intended in the same way that this blog post was intended, seems to be to me to be more guffaw-inspiring than making fun of people who claim their nation is the greatest on earth. I am passionate about what I tried to say above (albeit probably writing too fast and sloppy to be of much use), but that is because I find a lot of what Hart says edifying.

Again, the way Hart and others like him talk about "modernity" is very modern, in that it seems to implicitly assume that politics and/or history trumps all else. I could be wrong, which is why I am asking about it. It sometimes seems like progressivism in reverse. He seems to think that some sort of confessional state is preferable to liberal democracy. This is an argument that should be taken very seriously, "anarchist-monarchist" nonsense aside, but when you blame liberal democracy and "modernity" for so much one wonders what about the church? Why can't it succeed in a liberal democracy, even if only to overcome its supposed deficiencies and reform it? Why is the assumption that we are doomed, doomed, and it is all the fault of our politics and broad sweeping historical movements of thought? If the political community is the highest human community, why not have more respect for the political community that nourishes you? If the church is the highest community that ought to guide all others, why isn't it the most to blame for our problems? If Hart is correct and modernity's thought is wrong, isn't nature and the truth on his side and won't it be hard for most people most of the time to actually adopt "modernity's" premises?

I'm being provocative with purpose; I'd like an answer to these questions.

As far as my sanity goes, one is not competent to judge such a thing oneself. Heh.

And it is common, in my experience, to address people by their first names in this country in blog comments and the like. To my (possibly insane) ears, writing "Mr. Hart" at the top of my comment would be giving attitude rather being polite.

Cheers.
9.30.2010 | 12:23pm
Mr. Hart,Thanks for this hilarious reductio ad absurdum of the Crunchy Cons and the Communitarian Conservatives. You've made my day.
10.5.2010 | 12:35pm
Tim H says:
It never ceases to appall me how shamelessly Americans from the President on down express such resolute and endless concern for America being the greatest nation on earth. These assertions demonstrate nothing but an alarming insecurity that you'd think a 234 year old would have outgrown. Does any healthy modern human being go around crowing about being a member of the greatest FAMILY on earth (or shouting down any family member who doesn't share that opinion, a la Hannity)? We live where we live, the earth and its creatures and citizens are blessed with infinite variety and beauty. To be incapable of accepting that simple, wonderful fact, demonstrates insecurity and a willful ignorance of nature's or God's blessings on us all.

This view isn't relativistic. I wouldn't deny some places and countries are better than others any more than I'd deny some families are better than others. Some families and nations are downright dysfunctional. But anyone who's traveled can understand why people the world over love where they live, and usually recognize their own nations -- just as they recognize their own families -- as being a mixed bag. In part, they simply express through their authentic patriotism the self-respect and gratitude for one's life that characterizes a healthy human soul. This healthy patriotism doesn't depend on a sense of superiority over other peoples. Asserting you're the greatest nation on earth isn't patriotism but chauvinism born of insecurity, and at this stage of our history represents a truly pathological -- and frightening -- insecurity.

The whole argument of who's greater is simply immature and silly -- a game played by boys in high school locker rooms. In my experience, the ones who didn't outgrow that obsession became seriously troubled and troublesome. A whole nation so oddly eager to engage in that game certainly doesn't present itself as being the greatest people on earth, but its own worst enemy -- decreasingly capable of civility in its domestic life (even in ordinary exchanges & conversation) -- and a potential bully toward the rest of the world.
7.24.2011 | 9:35pm
@Judy K. Warner: "I wonder if today's kids will grow up with the same kind of state loyalty that people of your generation and my generation often have." This isnt a joke, nor is it an academic exercise. This goes to the heart of what the hell Christianity is and what we ought to do with our lives here on earth.
12.8.2011 | 8:23am
Ranger01 says:
Good article. Reeks with snobbery but is fairly accurate, nevertheless.
Which banking/merchant/tobacco family are you related to? Hmmmm.
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