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Cardinal Velasio de Paolis was named papal delegate to the Legionaries of Christ early in July 2010 to shepherd the congregation through a “process of profound re-evaluation” as mandated in a communiqué from the Holy See to the Legionaries on May 1st of that same year. His appointment followed upon a close scrutiny of all Legionary houses of formation and apostolate—a “canonical visitation”—conducted by a team of bishops appointed by the Pope. The visitation was mandated by Benedict after the congregation’s major superiors admitted in early 2009 that Maciel had lived a morally depraved double life, fathering at least a daughter and perhaps other children from at least one mistress, and sexually abusing young seminarians.
After twenty-three years as a Legionary, I discerned that it was best for me to abandon the congregation in 2009. Since the naming of De Paolis, I have watched and waited for needed reform. Now, two years later, I have decided to lift my silence to express my deep disappointment as well as my profound concern for the fine young men and dedicated priests who still compose the Legion.
In point of fact, the Legionaries are not some centuries-old and long-cherished religious family, deserving of every ounce of the Church’s energies to salvage it. The Legion’s seventy-one years of existence are immersed in controversy. Serious questions have been raised about the various “approvals” of the Legion in the 1940’s on account of Maciel’s duplicity. The Legion also escaped extinction under dubious circumstances after a Vatican investigation of Maciel in the 1950’s. I have held for quite some time that it would have been best for the Legionaries and the Church had Benedict opted to suppress the congregation. That he did not do.
We have, rather been witnesses of two years of stalled reform. Part of this must be attributed to Legion’s papal delegate, Cardinal de Paolis. A long-time Vatican bureaucrat and canonist who does not speak Spanish, the Legion’s official language, de Paolis’s has made two decisions which, over time, may well prove to be the congregation’s final undoing. First, he has chosen to leave multiple longtime and close collaborators of Maciel in positions of governance in the congregation. Second, and more disturbing, the Cardinal has chosen to forego a thorough and independent investigation into whether any present or former members of the congregation knowingly abetted Maciel.
Meanwhile, De Paolis’s approach to the “process of profound re-evaluation” has been to institute a series of group dialogues amongst Legionaries about the current constitutions, to task a small commission of Legionary priests (some of Maciel’s closest collaborators) to “re-write” the text of the Legion’s constitutions, and to prepare the groundwork for a general chapter of the congregation sometime in the next twenty-four to thirty-six months.
Current members more open to radical renewal believe that the most likely result of such a process will be little more than superficial and cosmetic changes to norms and discipline—a far cry from the sweeping changes to the internal culture of the congregation so urgently needed.
To be sure, the Catholic faithful have a right to a detailed account of just how the case of Marcial Maciel and the Legion could have ever happened in the first place. The facts—no matter what they may reveal in terms of negligence, omission, and even complicity from within the ranks of the Roman Curia itself—would be far less scandalous than the present refusals to know and embrace the truth.
The Legion’s superiors, meanwhile, have fostered a culture of institutional opposition to the radical reform that is truly required. The vast majority of superiors remain beholden to the presumption that there is something—some nucleus of norms and traditions—fundamentally sound and salvageable in the Legionary way of life. This is bolstered by the institutional conviction that the naming of a Papal Delegate constituted a de facto pontifical "approval" of the Legion's continuation as a congregation and affirmation of the existence of a valid charism and mission. Those contentions remain un-argued assertions which beg theological substantiation.
Also disturbing is evidence that far too many Legionary superiors—in the face of growing evidence of sexual impropriety and abuse in their own members—continue to embrace and foster a culture of cover-up and lack of transparency. Responding to Legionary Fr. Thomas Williams’ recent admission that he had fathered a child with a woman several years ago while maintaining a high profile media ministry, Legionary General Director Fr. Alvaro Corcuera responded with a patently disingenuous letter posted on the Legion’s website on May 21st. It contains assurances of ethical oversight of clerical misbehavior in the Legion’s ranks: “Today, when a serious charge is brought against any Legionary, we take precautionary measures.” The letter notably avoids an explanation of the historic pattern of cover-up by Legionary superiors, including Corcuera himself who astoundingly admits that he sat on knowledge of the Williams case not only during the canonical visitation of the congregation but even during the first year of De Paolis’s tenure as delegate.
Based on a recent conversation with a Legionary priest heavily involved in some of these cases of abuse, I can only conclude that, sadly, Fr. Corcuera’s letter never would have seen the light of day had not the press been pushing for information about allegations against some former and current Legionary priests, and had not a former Legionary priest forwarded information in regard to some of these allegations to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
It is the Legionaries’ unquestioning allegiance and fidelity to the current major superiors which, in turn, is the principal obstacle to the emergence of new charismatic leadership from within the Legion’s ranks. Such blind loyalty to men who could have been gravely negligent in their dealings with Maciel is unfathomable. The Church has never required of its religious that, in obeying the superior, they check human reason or critical thinking at the door.
Deeply troubling also are continued signs of an institutional resistance to the vocational discernment so necessary to each of the priests and the seminarians who remain in the congregation. The first immediate and obvious need of Legionaries three years ago (and still needed by so many today) was to open themselves to a genuine re-discernment of their vocation.
Why? Because the revelations about Maciel’s moral aberrations should have upended—in the minds and hearts of all Legionaries—the fundamental understanding of the religious family on which they based their choice to join the congregation in the first place. Indeed, it should have opened their entire vocational history to prayerful and discerning scrutiny. Which of us would have joined the Legionaries or made our temporal or final profession of vows, much less gone on to ordination, had we known of Maciel’s depravities? In my own case, the only prudent course of action in 2009 was immediately to seek sound spiritual direction from an experienced director outside of the Legion. Every Legionary at the time should have received assistance in doing the same. Every Legionary who remains today, if he has not already worked through that process, should be given the means to do so. Yet, the many current Legionary superiors would appear oblivious to such common—pastoral—sense. Family members of Legionary seminarians would do well, therefore, to persevere in convincing their loved ones to request a period of time to return home, and in a non-Legionary environment, aided by a sound spiritual director from outside the congregation, carefully to discern God’s will for their lives.
Is reform still possible in such an environment? No Catholic observer of the unprecedented saga of the Legionaries—much less the Legionaries themselves—should be closed to the unlimited possibilities of the Holy Spirit. However, given the current leadership of the Legionaries, we have serious reasons to doubt. It seems the congregation is today in a slow but certain demise, and this gradual disappearance of the Legion as the Church has known it would be—in my opinion and the opinion of many—a welcome relief.
The Church does not need the institution of the Legion of Christ. What is good in the Legion is the ensemble of elements of spirituality, piety, and traditions of religious life that are not unique to the Legion, but which rather emanate from the Church’s own spiritual patrimony. What the Church does very much need, however, are the good and zealous men who currently remain in the Legion.
Fr. Thomas V. Berg is Professor of Moral Theology at St. Joseph’s Seminary in Yonkers, New York. He was a member of the Legionaries of Christ for twenty-three years.
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Comments:
I wish Fr Berg's article had addressed the matter of the charism, or lack thereof. Not only is the Legion unnecessary, it lacks a charism. If the Legion still doesn't know what the charism is, isn't it time to conclude there isn't one? As far as I know, charisms are not arrived at through committee decisions. I don't believe the Holy Spirit would keep a charism hidden this long. To say "we're sure we have a charism, the Holy Spirit just hasn't revealed it to us yet" makes no sense. Nor do I believe a charism was transmitted to a depraved founder.
This is the first time that Fr. Berg has been so direct in his questioning and criticism. His had not been an angry or strident voice. His has been and is a voice of faith and reason.
Will Cardinal DePaolis and other Vatican officials listen to the voices of faith and reason?
That is my ardent wish and prayer.
If they don't, the Legion of Christ will not be reformed; it is a cancer that will continue to metastacize inside the Catholic Church
I was an RC member since 1977 and until last year I attended weekly meetings EC, etc.
I also do not see any changes. But one thing they should have done is to halt immediately any new ordinations of their own and recruitment of any new seminarians. And I don't know, but I think this is within the power of Card. De Paolis, isn't it?
Anyway, much harm has been done to the Church in its individual members.
Many more things can be said, but I don't have the time do so, they are many ...
Take care, God Bess you!
Paco Cortés
Can You Hear My Heart Break
Over these 70+ years The Founder and his Legion have been the scourge of many decent people. Bertone , Sadano and anyone who tried to defend the indefensible including our late, great and beloved John Paul II.
When Marciel died it was written, Interger (the money bags of the LC/RC) had cash assets worth 33 billion (that's right billion with b) dollars over and above it's many real estate holdings. And the guess is a safe one that Integer and the upper strata of the Legion go hand -in-glove, as to why the LC/RC might reform rather than being suppressed as would appear the only Godly and reasonable thing to do. The same guys decern our saints .
Lou Gmiter
3rd Degree Knight
Murrieta, Ca. Council 11393
As to a detailed account for Catholic faithful, how about a detailed account for the Legionaries. I have always said there can be no real reform unless the details of the Apostolic Visitators were made know to the Legionaries. As far as I know this has not been done. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.
In as much as the presumption that the superiors believing there is something salvageable, I think this stems from B16's remarks that the Legion is fundamentally sound. But I think the Pope was referring to the a great majority of LC's who are sincerely seeking to do good, not just rewriting the Constitution.
All of us put great hope in the mission of Cardinal De Paollis, but alas it has been a total disaster. Just last year, several professors of theology at the Legions Regina Apostolorum Center in Rome where exiled to remote places, just as I was back in 1998. Nothing has changed. The commission appointed to rewrite the constitutions has included the supposed private vows disallowed and abolished by Pope Benedict in their draft. That should give anyone interested an idea of what kind of reform they want.
I was a member of RC for around 3 years and was a coworker for 1 of those years. During that time I worked extensively with the RC youth groups. While I did not personally see any direct abuse I did see behavior that deeply concerned me. This was specifically the recruiting methods of the Legion. What I saw was that any member of an RC youth group that could be described as charismatic and/or with leadership abilities were told they had a vocation. I remember seeing the immense pressure placed on these young men who could have contributed to their community in many ways that were not only becoming a Legionary. I remember being on a hike with a legionary and telling him about a young man I had worked with in my home town who was very dynamic and motivated in his parish. He had considered a vocation but decided it was not for him. When I told this story to the LC brother I was walking with he exclaimed that this person has made the wrong choice and these abilities should lead him towards a priestly vocation. The Legionary Brother also expressed an interest in getting to know this young man for the purpose of what I can assume was recruitment. Finally I also felt tremendous pressure myself upon completing my first as a co-worker to join the legion. To me the whole method of drawing in only the talented young men and pressuring them rightly or wrongly about Gods will regarding their vocation.
Ultimately while I realize a priestly vocation is a sacred and deeply personal thing I could not ignore the reoccurring trend in legionary recruitment practices.
Much love to you all, especially all those current and past LC and RC members struggling through this time.
After many years of active leadership within Regnum Christi, I too discerned that a formal departure from the Movement and it's institutional avoidance of the essential questions about it's own pedagogy was necessary for my own spiritual health. As an American, the summit of that disregard was the new assignment of Fr Garza as territorial director. I wondered if the Legionary leadership could be any more "tonedeaf" to what was needed for the American interests. Your essay was a succinct summary of my own observations and reasons to lose hope in authentic reform and long-term relevance of both the Legion and the Movement.
Marcial Maciel was a rapist. He was a pedophile. He raped his own biological children. He embezzeled millions of dollars. He fooled several Pope, Cardinals and Bishops. And those he couldn't fool, he bought.
And this cadre of loyalists, hand picked by Maciel himself, defended, protected, and enabled him to lead this life while cultivating a cult of personality around his false piety. They are guilty of cooperating with crimes and graves sins.
So- life does go on. In that you are correct. But we are not arguing over Rose v. Pink on Gaudete. We are demanding justice for the thousands of Legionaries being led astray by corrupt men who continue to lead a congregation founded by a monster. It's, to put it lightly, a big deal. -10 years an LC
Thank you Fr. Berg for using this forum to give a good analysis of the current situation. However I do disagree with: "No Catholic observer of the unprecedented saga of the Legionaries—much less the Legionaries themselves—should be closed to the unlimited possibilities of the Holy Spirit. " A charism, which the LC's do not have (rather it is built around cult technique), is an extraordinary gift that may not be PRESUMED to come for a future date. Either it has been given or it has not been given. Sort of given is a ridiculous consideration after 70+ years. That task of the Holy See is to confirm or dissolve, not reform and wait and see with untold hard being done to existing members.
New wine cannot be poured into old wineskins. No group can legislate a charism into existence, nor does the Lord give it essential components in a deformed manner as has happenned here. The bottom line is dissolve it first, then see what the Holy Spirit will do.
Would First Things consider running an article by a current Legionary priest as to why he has stayed in the order? After all, the vast majority have, and it's not exactly out of "blind loyalty to men who could have been gravely negligent in their dealings with Maciel": I think most of us would give very different reasons.
By the way, Fr Thomas, if you're ever interested in getting together with some of us from the Thornwood faculty again, give us a call! We're just up the road, and it would be great to connect again. Haven't talked to you in forever...
So the Church, at least in Latin America, is stuck with the Legion.
As much old guard superiors may want to conserve things as they were, there is no turning back the clock. The Legion's deformities are public, morale is low, the defection rate among seminarians studying in Rome has been growing and few are joining. And it is not as if the Legion had no problems before the revelations about Fr Maciel; there was already widespread acknowledgement among American Legionaries that the Legion had chronic problems that needed addressing.
It may be that all these negative realities will force at least a partial reform. Time will tell.
But the founder of the Legion and Regnum Christi was a profoundly wicked man, a liar and serial abuser. The Pope has described him as "devoid of religious sensibility" who led a "wasted life."
If the Legion had had a holy founder and subsequent generations of leaders misbehaved, there would be a basis for reform -- which in Catholic religious life always means returning to the foundational charism. But the Legion has nothing good to return to. Everything unique about the Legion, down to the minutest detail, is the product of an unchristian mind who delighted only in manipulation of others.
And so like all the pomps and works of the Devil, the Legion and its "movement" are destined to die. May the day of its funeral be close at hand. Blessed be God!
Also, if the author is serious about his doubt of the leadership, then he should speak with the cardinal. I'm sure he's all ears.
As one who recently celebrated the 20th anniversary of membership in the Legion of Christ, I appreciate your concern for those of us who have remained in the Congregation. As for all the priests who have recently left the Legion, I sincerely respect your decision and know that is was not made lightly. You deserve and have my prayers and continued esteem. At the same time, it is only fair to expect from you the same respect and support for those of us – the vast majority of priests – who have discerned to remain in the Legion and are at peace with God about our decisions. We have made our decisions freely, conscientiously and without checking our "human reason or critical thinking" at the door. The Spirit blows where it wills - people of good will can come to different conclusions in their discernment process and need not follow the “one size fits all” discernment method that you propose.
I think it is fair to say that the vast majority of Legionaries share your frustration with the length of the current reform process. At the same time, I think it is also fair to say, paradoxically, that we are coming to realize that it is necessary. I think you would probably agree that one of our biggest challenges is to overcome the top-down, centralized, practically autocratic governance system employed by Fr. Maciel. It would seem that the current process - taking the time to get the real input of everyone regarding the necessary reforms and the new constitutions – is aimed at doing that. Such a process necessarily takes time. Much more than “discussion groups,” these meetings have been open, frank and cathartic encounters which have already helped bring about significant changes within our culture. I am confident that continued patience, good will and guidance from the authority of the Church will bring about many more.
The Holy Father has made it clear that he sees much good in the Legion and wants it to continue. His Delegate has made similar comments on several occasions. It is thus inaccurate and unfair to assert or imply otherwise. In the final analysis, it is the authority of the Church that will confirm the Legion’s role for the future. Every Legionary that I know will readily accept the decisions that are made. It is my hope and prayer that you will also.
How does this group's history edify the Catholic faithful in and through their overall witness in foundation? The example of Judas as a pretty remote analogy may be a case in point- what followers he may have had, had to see his role refounded in a new apostolic witness founded in Mathias. That is the equivalent of a dissolution and new foundation emerging from the situation where appropriate. But of course the analogy is weak because our Lord was the founder of the Church.
To find what the Holy Spirit wants will mean, more than waiting for the closed and enigmatic culture of the Legionaries to tell us, but over time to see that the body of the faithful are listening too and eventually the Holy Father will gather in the sense of the whole Church regarding the real LC- meanwhile discernment outside the box is the only hope.
For now we are left with a charism that DePaolis cannot define, and we are left with a charism for which DePaolis is still seeking out a founder as if to rewrite history- something he considers very necessary- yet no one can seem to point to who that might be.
Let's keep in mind the LC can always be reformed in a group of other very simple associations to carry out certain parts of their work in the institutions in which they serve, but the Church cannot make the type of charism that the LC once pretended to be, come into being in a process. That is a sin of presumption. A charism as I said above was given or not given, and to say it is in need of reform from day one is an oxymoron, a slap in the face of the Holy Spirit that he could not figure out what sort of man MM was and the ill effects this supposed way of holiness would bring about.
I challenge also the idea of 'discernment'-- when did the Delegate ever release all the members from their vows so they could discern with total freedom of conscience their call to participate in the reform? Rather those who left were categorized by him as afflicted in some way, and of dark spirits who always cast a shadow on his efforts. When truth meets a lie for the first time a shadow is always cast-- time will tell from which direction it was coming. But please do not speak of free discernment when we see 3GF considering other communities locked out of their centers for fear of what 'infection' they may cause.
While there might have been an unprecedented speck of a chance following the debacle that was the era of Maciel - a man ""devoid of scruples and authentic religious sentiment" and a plagiarist. To a certain extent, one might excuse the "Nuestro Padre" group think of that same time - and one might not.
Today one clearly sees the fruit of Maciel's dreadful foundation in the current regime. Clearly the LEADERSHIP and the Roman SEMINARY faculty lacked the vision, will and scruples to out Fr. Williams SEVEN YEARS AGO and kept him on TV, writing books and on book tours.
On can ignore the authentic and consistent analysis of Fr. Thomas, even though from the start it has been irrefutable and crystal clear. The faculty of Regina Apostolorum and the leadership of the Legion demonstrated over years in the midst of the sex scandal and the Maciel scandal - that they lack the moral practicality observed in most cab drivers.
The foundation of this tall and sometimes beautiful building is non-existent. It is doomed to collapse and the will to examine, much less repair it is not there. I say this with a sad heart. Maciel's sin has touched hundreds of thousands and that too, is largely overlooked and not spoken of.
For starters, the LoC could, without getting papal approval, make every LoC holiday - the date of the founding, the date of MM's ordination and birth, the date of his death, etc. - a day of perpetual adoration and fast for the in reparation sins of their order under MM and under his immediate successors. Or they could dedicate the entire month of June as a "mini-Lent" to that same end.
Nothing is being done and Fr. Williams is exhibit A.
Disagreeing with the opinion of a Pope is not necessarily either unfair or inaccurate. Moreover, we are not required to accept decisions made by the Vatican as being for the best. When Bl. John Paul II called Maciel an "efficacious guide to youth", the very same arguments were used to paint the criminal Maciel's accusers as men who were not only inaccruate and unfair but even "enemies of the Church" and "workers of the devil" for having dared to contradict a Pope and declare Maciel what he really was: a liar, a fraud, a hypocrite, and a cruel and deviant abuser of children.
I know you did not intend this, but your very words confirm for many of us just how deeply the malformation goes. No doubt you mean well, but your ideas about authority and what constitutes "inaccuracy" and "unfairness" go right to the root of the problem. This is part of the genius of Maciel, pure and simple. Get a set of followers to believe they must assent to every single opinion of the Pope and then accuse other Catholics of being unfair and imply they are somehow disobedient and lesser Catholics for daring to speak the truth as they see it.
Fr. Thomas Hennigan points out the so-called "reformers" have included the twisted "private vows" in the draft of the revised constitutions. This really does tell us everything we know about the nature of the reform. It is still about abuse of power, abuse of authority, and abuse of conscience.
Most of out here in the pews, bamboozled and dazzled by it all as some of us once were, no longer buy it. The Emperor is naked, all but the most brainwashed see that clearly, and reverting to the old tactics of trying to discredit or imply somebody who disagrees with the opinion of a Pope or other hierarchy member is somehow a lesser Catholic only reflects poorly upon the person making the insinuation.
You can thank JPII's "efficacious guide to youth" and enthusiastic support for your founder for opening so many of our eyes to the truth that a Pope can be wrong--deadly wrong--in his opinions. The Catholic world has lived and learned, but apparently the Legion is still singing the same old broken record it always has. Thank God most have the good sense to turn a deaf ear to Macielism now that the Legion has been shown to be what it actually is---a system of abuse and twistedness founded by a cruel and twisted criminal of the highest order.
I can understand that reading Fr. Berg's article can be difficult for those who have remained within the Legion, yet your comments here reflect exactly one of the problems Fr. Berg brings up; namely, the lack of critical argument one encounters when discussing the Maciel and other issues with members of LC/RC. I recognize that you reject this characterization, but you haven't addressed in any real way the arguments Fr. Berg presents, other than to argue that change takes time. I would rather see you mount a defense, for instance, of leaving in place many of the current leaders of the LC who covered up parts of the various scandals over the years.
Would doing what might be the very difficult task of separating the chaff from the wheat in the Legion help , in some mysterious manner , these other bodies also to be set in better direction !
Could this be the reason why this weed has been allowed to exist , even if unknowingly by the higher ups ...while still allowing for the 'impossible'
( meaning possible only for God ) task of somehow being able to become wheat ...
" Bring them all to My mercy .." - such is the exhortation of our times ..
God help us!
Also, there's a lot of talk about the Legionaries reforming or clarifying their charism. Can someone tell me what their old one was? And was it a multi-faceted one, or just one single idea? I really can't get any clear idea about it, even after substantial googling. Thank you.
In addition to questions already posed by other visitors here, I'd like to ask Fr Shane or Fr Charles, or any other LCs, do you feel satisifed with the Legion's response to Maciel's victims? Has the Legion done anything yet?
Another question, with respect to the Legion apology to victims. Were you satisfied with that apology? The following line remains with me as deeply disappointing - " Therefore, though it causes us consternation, we have to say that these acts did take place." If I found myself finally delivering a much overdue apology, it would cause me anything but consternation. I would in fact feel relief at the opportuity to express regret and offer my most expedient remedy possible for anyone I had harmed.
Finally, in your own priestly work, when you offer spiritual direction, and your spritual directee needs to apologize and make amends, do suggest they ease into the idea by saying "make it right, and take all the time you need" or "these things take time", or do you direct them to try to remedy the hurt or injustice, or restore the broken relationships right away? I aways believed sincere repentance should be followed by sincere and immediate action.
Thank you and God bless you for courageously responding.
http://live.regnumchristi.org/2011/02/legion-of-christ-the-best-is-yet-to-come/
As someone who left RC after almost 10 years, your article was very painful to read last year since you assumed and judged those who left as "quitting" and "heading for the exits" and those who stayed as the strong ones winning the game. Those of us who left including your brother priests did not quit or head for the exits when the chips were down. We followed our conscience and demanded reparation and restitution to the true victims of this scandal. It was one of the hardest times of my life and I have watched the pain and loss of faith of many dear friends. Your article is one of many articles by other LCs who treated all of us like we practically jumped ship and left the Church when we left LC/RC which is a trait of Macielism.
"After three overtimes, Calvert Hall prevailed by 3 points. By not quitting and believing it could be done, we pulled out a very satisfying win. But the best was yet to come for the Calvert Hall Cardinals. Inspired by the dramatic victory and with a nucleus of six returning players, they went 34-0 the next season and were rated as the nation’s number 1 high school team.
I was a member of those Calvert Hall teams and I am currently a member of the Legionaries of Christ. I see some parallels between that game of my youth and the current situation of the Legion. From the outside, things might seem hopeless or at least very discouraging. There are those who have headed for the exits. But from the inside, I am able to see things from a different perspective. True, there are serious obstacles in front of us, but as I believed my team could come back 29 years ago, I am even more confident that the best is yet to come for the Legion of Christ."
The irony is that many of us who left have been hoping and praying for a "comeback" that you would fully reform in truth because we did see and experience good. We just don't see true reform the way the Pope has asked and continue to see Macielism even in your current statement. That is why we speak out.
The last paragraph of the May, 2010 Communique says:
“7. Finally the Pope renews to all the Legionaries of Christ, to their families and to the lay associates of the movement Regnum Christi, his encouragement at this difficult time for the Congregation and for each one of them. He urges them not to lose sight of their vocation: this has its origin in Christ’s call and its inspiration in the ideal of bearing witness before the world to his love, and it is an authentic gift from God, an enrichment for the Church, and the indestructible basis on which to build their personal future and that of the Legion.”
Then there is pp. 38-39, of the 2010 book "Light of the World:
“Meanwhile we have had an Apostolic Visitation carried out and appointed a delegate who together with a group of collaborators is preparing the necessary reforms. Naturally corrections must be made, but by and large the congregation is sound. In it there are many young men who enthusiastically want to serve the faith. This enthusiasm must not be destroyed. Many of them have been called by a false figure to what is, in the end, right after all. That is the remarkable thing, the paradox, that a false prophet, so to speak, could still have a positive effect. New courage must be given to these numerous young men. A new structure is needed so that they do not fall between the cracks but are guided correctly so as to be able to continue performing a service to the Church and to mankind.”
Fr. Gonzalez: Merely following the intellectual scheme of another religious order (Jesuits) does not a congregation make. Holding men in a lifestyle that does the Church and themselves harm for the sake of such specific and noble goods explains the precise mentality that permits this disaster tp languish without resolution. It's use, not love.
Pope Benedict also addressed a group of Legionaries at a recent Wednesday audience (June 13, 2012):
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/853224.html
"Saludo a los Legionarios de Cristo que se aprestan a transcurrir un periodo de experiencia pastoral y animo a cada uno a vivir esta etapa del camino formativo como momento de gracia y de generosa disponibilidad" , dijo en italiano.
And as a brief response to a point brought up by Fr. Berg in his article: I know Brothers who have spiritual direction with non-Legionary priests, and I think it's nearly impossible to finish a serious formation process as long as ours without seriously questioning our motives, at this point. We might not have all the information we would like, but we have enough to seriously test the purity of our intention.
Br Daniel
I didn't have anybody named "Arthur" in my ethics class, but I think I know who you are. :-) We're Facebook friends, aren't we?
@ Sandy:
I need to give you the same answer I would give Arthur: Your questions are valuable enough that I can't do justice to them in this little space. Maybe with a full article or a personal conversation. I try to answer all the questions I get at facebook.com/frshane and on my blog, so feel free to reach out that way if you like. (The same goes for anybody else who would like to.)
And for all of us I just pray for an outpouring of the Holy Spirit, so that those tasked with discerning whether this work is from God (they wear funny hats and live in Rome) may be granted light and clarity, and the rest of us may be granted the grace of accepting it with faith. I think it's what we all most need. "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." May God bless us all!!!
For myself I have seen something in the Regnum Christi movement that I do not see anywhere else in the church. I see a positive spirit and a desire to help others that I can not find in any other organization. So to say that the church does not need the Legion or Regnum Christi is sad because no one else is doing the kind of work they are.
I call attention to those wonderful gifts the Church has received by way of the good and faithful men and women of RC & LC. The building of schools and strengthening of families and marriages and support of the Holy Father and encouragement of chaste and faithfilled lives dedicated to reflection upon the gospels and unity with and for the Church ARE gifts of the Holy Spirit!!! Remember that Christ's dual nature is human and divine. We are only human. The divine within the Church is the gift of the Holy Spirit. We get to choose whether we cooperate with the gift or reject it.
Among many other things, RC and the Legion taught me to "be charitable in all things", "to think good, see good, and do good." (How I wish I were more true to that teaching!) Those teachings are just part of the charism that leads the good men of LC to continue to seek to do God's will where they are and bring about the good God intends regardless the failings of the "founder". The real founder of ALL movements is the Holy Spirit! Let's not be so quick to condemn but in all things seek God's will and pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit!
Second, what exactly is meant by the "structure" of an order? It seems to me that this can relate to the health of an order, but the health is already there as witnessed by the Visitators. I believe what the Holy father meant is that the order needed a new structure so that they can fulfull and expand their mission both as individuals and as an order. Can someone expound?
Bill, interesting thought.
And we will not be lectured on the need to faithfully accept whatever Rome decides from an organization which in May 2006 compared the Holy Father to Pontius Pilate and Marcial Maciel to Our Lord. Which continued to organize obscene "pilgrimages" to Cotija, the Mexican birthplace of "Nuestro Padre" for 3 years after Pope Benedict silenced and exiled him. All while Fr. Alvaro and Fr Luis Garza knew -- as they now admit -- of Maciel's wicked double life. And without doubt dozens of senior Legionaries shared that knowledge.
Fr Alvaro practically canonized Maciel in 2008 when writing to the "co-founders" upon his death, despite knowing the secret truth about him. Now he tells us he knew for at least 7 years about Fr Thomas Williams. Why didn't he and the rest of the LC hierarchy stop promoting Fr Williams as a great celebrity priest?
These people are frauds. Blind guides, and whitened sepulchers. Free yourselves from their control.
Br Daniel,
Benedict's quote basically says the Pope says hi to the Legionaries. And about Spirtual Direction, during the few months I spent in Mexico (my last "destino") we received a letter specifying the Spiritual Directors for the territory. Most of them were recently removed superiors, like Fr Jorge Cortes. Never did I hear of anyone having a Spiritual Director who wasn't an LC. I was even reprimanded for consulting a former LC. So, maybe LC's having not-LC directors might be a very rare exception, rather than a rule.
Of course I remember you! Sorry about the FB thing. I honestly thought we were friends but hadn't checked. (I'm friends there with dozens of ex-Legionaries that I've met over the years.) Anyway, feel free to reach out there if that's what you're interested in.
By the way, you might be happy to hear that a Franciscan priest comes weekly to the Rome seminary now for confessions and spiritual direction... Things are changing!
Hey "Caritas"... It's okay if you think I'm a fraud, but would you mind praying for me (by name, preferably) to be holier? Honestly. I would really appreciate it, and it's probably the best way to heal this situation. Prayer for one's "enemies" is one of the most powerful forms of prayer. God bless you!
Couldn't God's Providence take advantage of errors in judgement of people in the Church to the advantage of his own design? Couldn't the Legion part of this mysterious plan?
Reform is clearly in order, but it is necessarily slow if it is to change the structure of the Legion and its culture. There are signs of this taking place: the possibility of spiritual direction and confession with non-legionary priests is there, specially in centers of formation where the religious would have more difficult access to other priests (making it mandatory to have a non-LC spiritual director just shows, with all due respect, that it is possible that you are still struggling with the one-size-fits-all mentality that is slowly disappearing from the Legion), there is greater dialogue and feedback to superiors on their actions, there is greater accountability... I am sure more LC's will leave the Order as part of their discernment. But I know quite a few who are committed to carry out the renewal process required by the Holy See and who are aware that this will take tame. Now, taking time does not mean it is stalled.
As a former student in a Legionary school in Mexico, I can assure that this order has had (and still has) a positive impact in Catholic culture and makes the Church present in the public square according to the great limitations set by the Mexican Constitution. I am not so sure that suppression would be the best response for the Church and society, at least in my country. Maybe your perception is too centered in your own American experience, which may be valid, but also limited.
There are numerous saints in the works and to come in the order, and they have brought us many vocations in the United States across a wide spectrum, so don't be so quick to judge, folks.
We have greater battles ahead saving a great deal of our own US Cathoic Institutions in the aftermath of the Supreme Court decision on healthcare.
Elaine, we'll just have to take your word for it that there are saints in the making in the Legion. I see saintly diocesan priests all the time, doing phenomenal works for far larger numbers of people, with far fewer funds to work with. Of course Regnum Christi members are going to see and feel wonderful things that they may not see in their parish, because they have LCs dedicated to serve RC members, their schools and families. I am therefore not all that impressed by the success in vocations if they do not, ultimately, benefit the Universal Church but rather an exclusive group of primarily well-to-do orthodox Catholics. This is just one of many reasons I could not carry on in RC, it did not feel right to have so much priestly attention lavished on our small exclusive group when the world has such a need for their attention. Peace.
-Myers Briggs TF style personalities
-Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
-Multiple Personality Syndrome
-Basic Sociopathy
I believe Marciel built himself a cult out of the Legion- and was motivated to do so by his experiences as a young child during the Christeros Rebellion.
Perhaps some would consider writing Fr Berg's bishop to express displeasure at the irresponsibility of this article. Fretting on the sins of other people is distracting to our spiritual lives.
The superiors do not need to go anywhere. They just need God's grace and time and the Holy Spirit. It is only in rare cases when a priest needs to be removed from public ministry. Many, many dioceses have had similar problems, and in fact many Bishops have had problems with learning to lead. Remember, they lived with a vow of charity as well until the last ten years. It is a gentle process.
Keeping the Church pure is a constant process of renewal to which we should all be committed. It is through the mercy of God and His miraculous works that the Catholic Church as a whole exists at all. Pray for our Holy priests of God and all of our religious and the Catholic faithful so that we can build the Church as opposed to tearing it down.
Up to now, the blog I run is devoted to youth ministry on Tumblr, so I haven't even thought about bringing up these issues there. The problems kids face are very different from the ones we're discussing. But, as you ask, I'll consider talking through all this there. In any event, I'll be almost entirely offline for the next 5 weeks because of a whole parade of summer activities, including an 8-day silent retreat for me! Please pray for me and the other priests who will be on Exercises!
By the way, I'm only able to speak for myself, but most of the ministry I've done (outside of teaching our young religious) has been in Hispanic ministry for the Archdiocese of New York, often in the roughest parts of the Bronx. We've even taken on a mostly Spanish-speaking parish on the wrong side of the tracks in Yonkers (St. Peter's) as of last weekend. That might not fit everybody's expectations of "what Legionaries do," but some expectations out there about us really surprise me. :-)
May God bless you abundantly!
Pray!
I'm just confused about something. It's proven that several LC major superiors knew of Maciel's duplicitious lifestyle. It's known that former LC's who asked too many questions about the money were removed from their apostolate, their community or the LC all together. It's known that the beloved Fr. Alvaro Corcuera, renowned for his charity and humility, was 100% aware that Thomas Williams fathered a child and this information was kept from Cardinal DePaolis and the apostilic visitors, while Thomas Williams was encouraged to preach, publish and appear on The Today Show with Katie Couric. It's known that the US Territorial Director Fr. Luis Garza visited Maciel on his deathbed and threatend to expose him. It's know that Fr. Evaristo Sada, the graet Secretary General, celebrated a funeral mass for Maciel with his wife and children.
So- to get to my question... how do you take orders from these guys? How are they "God's Will" in your life? How can you listen to men who are complicit in the rape of children, the theft of money, the perversion of truth, the corrupters of lives? Have you ever talked to any of the LC's Maciel abused? Have you talked to former Road Team fundraisers who were treated like slaves so Maciel could buy his whores apartments?
Those men who lead the Legion should be in jail. Not in Roman Collars. And the fact that anyone could take an order from them as "superiors" shows just how corrupted and manipulated the LC's really are.
And that's the real tragedy of Maciel. Though he is dead, his evil lives on.
-9 years of lies
It was you who suggested I reach out and ask my earlier questions, which you called "valuable", via your Facebook page, and at the time, I suspected you were sidestepping my questions – about superiors, the insincere apology to victims, deception and so on. I didn’t actually expect you to address my questions, and now you tell me you don’t really use that forum for this type of discussion. No surprises. From what I have heard, and as ‘9 years of lies’ mentions above, LCs do not have the freedom to speak out (or cry out) openly, and I’m sure it’s no different for you.
Maybe you don’t intend it, but when you say to me “I’m really sorry about the hurt you still feel”, it’s a passive-aggressive twist, placing the focus on my reaction – “I’m sorry you can't get over it!” - not on the harmful actions of your superiors, founder, and some of your members.
‘9 year of lies’ asked a question, and I wish you were free to answer it honestly – how do you take orders from these guys?
Fr Alvaro already runs an order that is larger than most dioceses and is international. The fact that he trusted Fr Williams, when the man actually lied to him, is something he will be substantially more prudent about in the future... lesson learned. The fact that he has the delegate to assist with issues of structural change and improvement is a true blessing from the Holy See and Fr Alvaro does not need to resign.
Fr Berg is incorrect in the assumption that the order cannot be reformed. In fact, since he is "born" of the order then we should, taking your position, not be listening to him because he is unable to be "reformed" as well... he is permanently tainted in his thoughts and logic, a passive man unable to use his intellect and will.
The Capuchin order had three founders, the first two being heretics and quite franky, we don't know enough about their personal lives to know if they sinned in other ways. Yet the order has survived. The Dominicans, Fransiscans, Jesuits, and most other orders and dioceses have had extremely serious scandals and reform and policy improvements have been called for there as well.
Sandy, Fr Shane did not sin against you and he is not twisting your mind.
"It's known that the US Territorial Director Fr. Luis Garza visited Maciel on his deathbed and threatend to expose him. It's know that Fr. Evaristo Sada, the great Secretary General, celebrated a funeral mass for Maciel with his wife and children." Neither of those things are worthy of imprisonment, and MM went to confession before he died so a funeral mass is fine...even people who have committe suicide get that. That Fr Garza threatened to expose MM... not sure what that means ... are you implying that he knew about MM's life for a long time, before the death bed? Did the threat come because Fr Garza found out shortly before the death and was angry?
"It's known that the beloved Fr. Alvaro Corcuera, renowned for his charity and humility, was 100% aware that Thomas Williams fathered a child and this information was kept from Cardinal DePaolis and the apostilic visitors" Who says the visitators asked about that stuff? You were not present in the interviews, and the visitation was not an investigation of the possible or actual sins of the members of the order. I guess one of the vistators could respond to that one.
And consider this; priests know the sins of others, some of them horrible. Does this mean they are responsible for them because they know them? I don't have a problem with them coming forward and saying they knew, if they did, as you say...and I have no evidence of that, just taking your word for it.... but then what does that mean?
Fr Alvaro is in fact well known for his charity and humility, and maybe it is too extreme at times but he has guidance on this now. Remember we all have intellect and reason.
I do wonder, though, whether the order could ask to refound, if they have the leadership to do it. I don't know how that works, but they seem to want to stay together and the Holy See certainly won't destroy what they have approved, but what if they ask??
Chalduce, there have been tremendous and wonderful fruits -- which it would take too long to mention here. That is the work of the Holy Spirit and prayer that evil cannot overcome.
Thanks for the straw man- but let's look at your argument: there is a difference between recognizing the sins of men in the Church (currently and throughout history) and leaving these people in positions of power. I don't think any of us calling for reforms claims only perfect men should lead the LC as perfect men cannot be found. Not even the Saints were perfect, and the holiness of Blessed JPII does not mean he never made mistakes as a man.
We recognize the Church as a human and divine institution is run by men who are flawed.
The difference is removing those men from positions of authority where they continue to pervert and distort truth.
Otherwise, according to your logic, no one should be excommunicated from the Church, and every Seminary should employ whatever theologians they want to instruct their seminarians. Should Catholic Universities purge heretical professors from its ranks? To quote you: "Where do you stop with this?"
It is unfathomable that men who are guilty of such heinous crimes against man and God are still in positions of authority. Calling for their removal is not tantamount to questioning the nature of Holy Mother Church. Rather, it is calling on Holy Mother Church to recognize human nature and act accordingly.
To put it bluntly: if you knew an institution had protected child rapists and stolen millions of dollars, would you send your kids to it? What you want your priests formed by it? Or would you seriously demand a power shift and a purge.
We are one mystical body... and so the LC's sins, past and current, do indeed affect us all in very real ways. As I said earlier, Maciel is dead, but his evil lives on. -9 years of lies
I DO NOT BELIEVE the Catholic Church should be disbanded because of the sins of its members. I DO BELIEVE the continued existence of the Legionnaries of Christ is a liability for the Church as a whole because of the depravations of its founder.
Some people believe that Maciel was able to fool a lot of people in the hierarchy for decades because he had a multiple-personality disorder. In other words, he was a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. I suspect that another factor was at play - those who knew better did not challenge him because HE BROUGHT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE CHURCH. In other words, some people in the Church hierarchy are as craven and cynical as the worst political operators.
A lot of people are familiar with the following quote attributed to Edward Burke:
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." I believe the LC scandal arose because of the inactions of "good men".
At least one went to the Vatican to try and talk to JPII but could not get in, at least if you believe the wikileaks!
What we need to be doing is to encourage them to say what they definately knew specifically regarding the MM crimes. You simply cannot assume that because one is an LC that they knew for a fact....the vasy majority of them did NOT KNOW, according to the Holy Father.
This is not the same as having heresies taught in seminaries. The LC do not teach anything doctrinally unsound. Fr Alvaro's communication has gotten better, and more straightforward. My goodness, B16's communication is not perfect for everyone! Oh by the way, in my diocese, priests and some lay people are sworn to secrecy about all kind of things.....hmmmm.
You are not going to get that by making blanket stetements that the existence of the order is a detriment ot the Church. You are wrong, the LC are NOT a detriment to the Church, and the Holy Father very much wants them to reform. What is a detriment to the Church is the memory of a horrible dead man, and that his sins are being conferred onto the entire order. This is simply unjust, and you yourself are being a detriment to the church and the faithful by continuing along this vein. The Holy Father specifically asked us NOT to confer the sins of the founder upon the entire order.
Look at these priests on an individual basis, please, and quit assuming that just because they have an LC after their name they are evil...that is a sin. I am sure the order would like to deal with each individual priest's situation as well, and I am confident that the delegate will be involved in all decisions because he approves all personnel changes.
So perhaps write to the delegate and let him know your positions. God bless.
I am not convinced that the institution of the LC protected MM, and in fact I have less evidence of that than I do of dioceses and bishops who have turned away good men, then trained and accepted priests illsuited to begin with, and then became pedophiles. I do not believe these diocese should disappear, however, they need reform.
So if we are going to obliterate the LC by following your logic, then there go a large number of dioceses...which is making the SNAP people very happy. Lawyers never stop.
In terms of the correction of the distortion of church teaching in seminaries and universities as being comparable to you wishing the LC be disbanded, there is a difference. In the former case, the line in the sand is the teaching of the church in its entirety. This is not a moving target, although knowing the entire teaching of the church is a huge task that has likely only been accomplished by B16, and by his predecessor JPII. (By the way, given that B16 considers the LC fundamentally sound with normal adjustments and that they have a clear calling should count for more than something.)
Disbanding the LC because you say their superiors pervert and distort the truth IS a moving target. First you probably won't stop your opinion just because these superiors leave their positions, and second you will always think the LC distort the truth no matter what they say or what they do. It only depends upon your state of mind and hard headed opinion.
Quoting Edward Burke: "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Well I am a "good man" and I cannot sit back and NOT inform you that a far more productive use of your time is to pray for the LC, see them as individuals, and to encourage their reform, along with the overall reform of the whole church.
That's why I question how much invested interest do you actually have that it happens and disagree with your final conclusion.
@Edward - "Sandy, Fr Shane did not sin against you and he is not twisting your mind."
What a relief!
- Sandy aka "Baffled"
According to the law, when an individual is aware of a crime and actively or passively permits it to occur, one becomes and accessory to the crime.
It is not my opinion that millions of dollars were diverted from LC accounts. It is a fact. And it is a fact that a handfull of superiors personally chosen by MM knew of this and did nothing about it.
It is not my opnion that dozens of LCs went to superiors with their tales of abuse by MM. It is a fact. And it is a fact that those superiors dismissed them from the Congregation and smeared them as people who hate the Church. Please go back to 1997 and read some of the original comments of LC spokesmen.
It is not my opinion that LC knew, for example, of Fr. Thomas Williams child and they did not come clean during the great "reformation". Theresa above responds to that with the every perplexing "Who says the visitators asked about that stuff? You were not present in the interviews" which is always the best defense of a cover up. "Johnny how come you didn't tell me you were sent to detention at school? Because you never asked, Dad".
So, no, to again respond to your perpetual strawman, I did not say that all priests with an LC after their name are evil. I said these individual superiors, MMs closest allies, knew everything, and they remain in power. And that is a real shame and scandal. It is reform by reshuffle- and we saw how well that worked in the 60's and 70's and 80's in American dioceses.
I just find it alarming that many of you on here are mad at me... when all I do is call out truths which are very painful and uncomfortable to face. Thomas Berg did the same thing (Bravo, Father).
When you turn a blind eye to facts (missing millions, accusations of abuse, wives and sons on vacation with their "dad"), you have lost all credibility and trust. And to be a religious superior, you need some shred of trust. Currently the LC has none, which is why we get vapid, soulless responses to decades of abuse, rape, fraud, theft... very real crimes with very real victims, and all we get from the LC (and you, their faithful followers) are requests for prayers.
Christ did indeed make a whip of chords and drove out those people who polluted His Father's house. It's time the Church and the Legion do the same. If you attack me for calling for it, so be it. Truth is not always pleasant and justice is not always soft. The faithful deserve both, and currently has little of either.
-9 years of lies
In it, he discusses Catholic obedience as understood by St. Ignatius of Loyola and traditional Jesuit thought, and how that understanding was twisted by Marcial Maciel within the LC and RC: http://underachindolea.blogspot.ca/2009/02/jesuit-obedience-and-legionaries-of.html
Well, as a Mexican Catholic I can inform you all that, fortunately, Maciel's sad outfit has minimal impact on the vast majority of Catholics in this country and is furthermore regarded as a silly, pretentious and rather alien club made up by people with extremely poor spiritiual and intellectual formation.
Their image was always dubious but it has deteriorated beyond words.
So much for "fruits" and other claims.
To Former LC, If the superiors are removed, where would you be happy with them going...jail? Are these issues of international law, civil law, what?! Don't the outside authorites already know about this stuff? Obviously the Church law is not sufficient for you. None of us are in charge of this....
To Pete Vere, thank you the article and I will read. I hope it is not old, though.
To Still Healing, "I experienced manipulation, psychological abuse, shunning, public humiliation and harassment. There is something called the Catholic church and that is where we should all be (after deformation)." Who was doing this to you? Was it non-RC/LC people? I agree that we are all Catholic, but you are witnessing that I am being accused of being part of an LC/RC spin and dishing out MO....and this is totally being made up by people who (I think) are Catholic.
Now they are being compared to Hitler!
Who's manipulating who? I know you are upset with me and others here for challenging your way of thinking but it needs to be done.
No one is turning a blind eye, but you guys sure spread rumors like the wind.
When the Sandusky/Penn State child-rape tragedy unfolded it only took a few weeks for Penn State's Board of Trustees to dismiss their president and other top officials who knowingly aided in a coverup or failed to report a crime. It's the same here: The current leaders aided in a coverup of mammoth proportions--for years and on multiple levels--and so they shouldn't be leading anyone.
We aren't saying they should be banned from public ministry. We are saying they should not be leading the troops. Let the reform continue, but as a sign of opening the windows to let in fresh air, get interim leaders at the helm who are not steeped in the filth and lies. It's common sense, the right thing to do.
Read the testimonials of the girls who left the consecrated group (49blogspot). It is psychological abuse. These girls were not allowed to make associations. It's like leaving a child in a crib and not tending to the child's needs or like being in an insane asyslum. They were monitored and snitched upon like they were in the movie, "The Firm" or "The Stepford Wives". Ever read the book, "1984" by George Orwell? How can these teens thrive in this environment? Perhaps they shouldn't have become "nuns", but they were tricked into joining via recruitment retreats and then restricted from all contact with parents. They were told not to tell their parents how unhappy they were. They were told that if they left, it meant that they lost their faith and turned against God. They are a cult and the sooner parents realize it, the better. And they don't save souls, they damage them. So Edward, if you have no experience with lc/rc, I'd suggest you talk about something you have knowledge about.
Tell me- who will hire coach McQuaery again? The man who watched a 10 year old boy be raped and did nothing... I don't think anyone wants him in their state, let alone their football program. But wait! He's a great coach! I'm sure he is- in as much as ens qua football. But in as much as a person... no thank you.
Yet all those LC priests with same pasts: knowledge of rape, stories of rape, minors asking for help. They turned a blind eye, expelled those boys, sent them home, defamed them all to protect Maciel. And they have not been fired at all.
So yes, Edward, they should be in jail. And if your boy was raped by Jerry Sandusky or Marcial Maciel, and you found our McQuary or Corcuera knew about it... could you breathe until justice was served?
It's just very, very sad that the Rose Bowl is a greater motivator for change than Fear of the Lord.
The major difference with the Legion of Christ was that it was defined and controlled in all of its operations and formation by a highly centralized authority driven by and focused on the person of Maciel. His letters were the primary framework of spirtuality and his life the focal point of imitation for his members. His dominance lasted for over 64 years, ensuring layers and layers of structural imprint. He referenced no other defining witness in foundation other than his own. Historically his person is inseparable from each defining moment of the foundation period.
What Maciel did leave for a spirituality was damaging enough. The Zeal and Sacrifice he implored was in essence a heretical form of activism noted in the communique phrase: efficiency at any cost. The thrill of gain, not communion, today excites the youngest neophyte, but leaves him in a shallow shell of use driven form of orothodoxy. Today the hunger for the elite places in culture impoverishes the ability to make a lasting impression anywhere they are found, and impression that only humble service can give. In Maciel we find no Francis and in this so called institutional reform there is neither witness, nor founder, nor charism.
Consider it simply: When a Capuchin wishes to understand his charism today he looks to Christ through the eyes of St. Francis, now through whose eyes do the LCs look through? What witness of life can they model their own lives, and that is truly a part of their history? These sacred sources on which every order counts is totally bankrupt making it a very dangerous place to be.
We admitted we were powerless over maciel—that our lives had become unmanageable.
Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
Continued to take personal inventory, and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12 Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to maciel's victims, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
I think you should especially consider 8, 9 & and 10. And, mm fooled 5 Popes. They are not always in the loop and can not always be privy to the numerous issues that many of us saw first hand that caused our departure. I find that many who defend the LC/RC did not send their kids to the schools and the ones who did and still support the LC/RC refuse to read or hear anything negative. They believe there is corruption everywhere, the Legion is no different. I could go on and on but I am not as eloquent as many of you so I can only continue to pray that the scales fall and you see the truth one day. I just lived it and watched my 15 year old son lose his heart and his emotions over a 3 year period. It has taken almost 2 years for him to get back on track. If nothing else, I pray that the apostolic schools shut down or at the very least become "real" schools with normal vacation periods. If the Legion had told the truth when the scandal first broke and held themselves accountable they would be thriving right now. It is not too late...
Many of the persons "born of the Legion" were already strengthened by their families and parishes and other priestly mentors and were found ripe for the picking when the LC showed up to places which the LC termed fish ponds. These were places where evangelization had already happened and they were there to get the fruits. Once 'harvested', many already with graduate degrees from prestigious universities, as Fr. Berg and Fr. Gill among others, they worked to bring realities into place that MM was not the inspiration for, but was their own faith and sweat nurtured in Holy Mother Church and is rooted among other good and noble mentors. So Elizabeth I would not say every spiritual good that passed through the LC originated in the LC. They always loved to put themselves in places where good things were happening and conflate the reality to look as if they were the source of it all.
In the end the right to exist as a religious institute is not built around what goods you produce for the Church but what communion in grace and holiness the charism is able to brings about in others 24/7.
Elizabeth says: "I am not convinced that the institution of the LC protected MM, and in fact I have less evidence of that than I do of dioceses and bishops who have turned away good men, then trained and accepted priests illsuited to begin with, and then became pedophiles. "
Not being RC you did not go through the great betrayal when in 2006 LC leaders claimed MM was unjustly taking a fall when the Holy See censured him, they went on all the way through his own funeral projecting his holiness and his importance as a model for all LCs. This went on even though by 2005 the evidence of his double life was apparent internally to PTB around MM which includes photos with his mistress and daughter taken by LCs themselves. In the Visitors communique they spoke of a system of power that shrouded the founder's proclivities and this included real crimes. Former LCs from the 1950's and 60's described how they lied about his child and drug abuse to protect him. Those testimonies have been published in numerous news reports.
The great difference between an order and a diocese is our Lord Jesus Christ is the founder of the Church, not the local Bishop. The witness of holiness in foundation of a congregation is what gives it its spiritual identity, unless it is a reform drawing on some other foundational witness and founder. Without the witness there is no charism, no ideal that was ever divinely given. Charisms of these sorts are events, they cannot be processed or done in committee, well except now apparently.
Fr. Berg - thank you for your brave testimonies. The letter you sent to RC the first week of the scandal was heart felt, honest and freeing for me and many, many others. Honestly you saved me from the pit of despair by reaching out in a compassionate way and caring for the person instead of the institution. I could not comprehend the response I was witnessing by LC leadership, LC priests and RC folks. You broke the mold and followed your heart instead of the methodology. Thank you.
By the way - this article at REGAIN about good and bad fruits is very insightful highlighting that "The pain of one person is not negated by the joy of 100".
http://www.regainnetwork.org/article.php?a=47246216
I actually experienced much joy during my time in RC but would give it all back if the truth of Maciel came out earlier to stop the pain of even one person. The good Lord would have taken care of me in other ways.
that one cannot claim to have faith if they know not love. The mask needs to be removed and the partying with the rich and famous will never impress our protector and redeemer, our Lord Jesus Christ.
Many apologists for LC/RC point out that their beloved movement is not guilty of any heresy or lack of orthodoxy. The word "orthodoxy" means "right belief". The early Christian fathers, however, point out that orthodoxy does not exist in a vaccuum for Christians; rather it goes hand-in-hand with "orthopraxis" (right practice). The concern for most Catholic critics of LC/RC is the movement's orthopraxis, particularly the on-going perception that the movement neglects its victims.
I agree with your wise insights. However, there may be an alternative that you have not considered. I think that once the deceptive life of Fr. Maciel was exposed, each LC was put into a position comparable to someone faced with the possibility of an annulment. Just as a married man can have his marriage nullified upon providing evidence that he was bound to someone who deceived him and pretended to be someone or something that they were not from the beginning, so too, each LC can do the same with his committment to the Legionaries of Christ.
Alternatively, the married man, despite being deceived, may choose to remain married. He may try to make it work for the sake of his children or because he thinks that there is hope through counseling or reform. In this case, the sacrament is still valid. Is it not? Would not the same be true of an ordination to an order's approved charism?
So I think what is meant by the comment "life must go on in the meantime" is that you must make a decision and move on. Neither choice, to stay or to leave, is condemned by the church. It is a personal matter discerned in prayer with God.
As far as there actually being a charism, you raise some very, very interesting points. I will just throw my observations out there and hope that you read and reply:
- Do you think that God can use sinful people, and their gifts and talents, to accomplish His work? If so, is it possible that a charism could be transmitted through a flawed vessel?
- As far as legislating a charism, do you see any parallels between the Pharisees and current LC situation? I do. The Pharisees were invited to accept the truth and reform. They were called to humbly broaden their limited understanding of who their Savior was. Then, lead their people to Him.
Jesus never forced them to change, but He always hoped that they would have an inner conversion. Jesus was a Jew. I am sure He loved His people. Yet, they did not budge and crucified Him. This obstinate act of hatred and defiance did not negate Judaism. Or, Jesus' heritage.
Likewise, the LC's original charism, the one set forth on paper and submitted to the Vatican, is not negated by Maciel's behavior. It was authenticated by the Pope. The problem lies in the fact that the LC culture, what was lived day to day, varied greatly from what was written down. The key to reform will come from within the Legionaries of Christ. It cannot be imposed. The men in the order must have a conversion of heart. They must be humble and accept that they have had a lot of dysfunction. Then, they must identify it and work with purity of intention to create an internal culture consistent with the approved charism.
- I cannot help but think that the Pope continues to support the Legionaries of Christ. He, and other Vatican officials, have made very positive comments. Additionally, it does not seem as if they have any intention of suppressing the order.
- God's transforming power can work miracles - the Crucifixion led to the Resurrection, Jews who converted to Christianity helped establish the Catholic church, sinful people who repent can be made into great saints...so too, perhaps, can the LC culture be reformed or purified to be consistent with their original charism.
- We can never understand God's rationale with certainty. At least not all of the time. We sometimes need to broaden our perspective. Or just have faith. I do not know how the LC situation will play out. I do not think anyone does. It may take a few hundred years before the Holy Spirit clarifies it with some sort of finality.
- The way I look at it is this (1) the Pope allows LC/RC to exist (2) He encourages them through reform (3) they preach God's word and offer activities and events to help people be closer to Christ (4) they wear a scarlet letter and are condemned and ostracized by many (5) it is a very personal decision to stay or leave; either one is acceptable. (6) those who stay must be attracted to and experience some spiritual benefit from it.
- I think the more Catholics fight with each other and stir up hatred and scandal, the more the devil likes it. Maciel is one in a long line of pedophile, perverted priests. Fighting, and airing our dirty laundry, makes all of us look uncharitable and diminishes the credibility of the entire church. Which is so often dismissed as irrelevant. The early Christians were known by their love. Are we now to be known by our hate?
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What you say is interesting, logical and follows a narrative popular amongst those still in LCRC. But you make assumptions that evidence does not support.
1) You imply that approved statutes that were “valid” on paper. How do you know this? From my read, RC approval documents were confusing (in retrospect, deliberately so, imo).
2) You imply that because it was “approved” by Rome, it was “the Will of God”. JP2 called MM an “efficacious guide of youth”. This was not the “Will of God”, just a man making a big mistake. People, even Popes, make mistakes, especially if deceived by a masterful con. For many of us, the current methods and pace “reforms” are gravely mistaken, as clearly stated by Fr Berg and others.
3) I am not a Church historian, but I don’t think there is a single example of a founder that was a deliberate criminal con man and serial abusers, like MM. The danger is that his evil intent may spread. To many of us, his con profited and continues to profit from spiritual pride and greed. Many of us think that the simple solution is to disband this group because reforms are not possible under current leadership and delegate.
4) You assume an institution has the same “freedom” to reform as individuals. Individuals and institutions are different things. You can not create a company like Apple by committee or by fiat. Institutions need effective leaders, that propose a vision with goals, and make it happen. In LCRC the same leaders that helped Maciel deceive are still in place, and there are no clear goals outside of helping MM commit a con.
5) There is also the destructive cult like aspects of LCRC. In the last few decades, there are many examples of charismatic “guru” like figures that created highly controlled, hermetic environments to perpetuate spiritual/financial cons. Often these gurus abuse, like MM did. When people are indoctrinated to be part of such systems they can not see well for themselves, unless they leave and take the time to understand how they were manipulated. LCRC cult-like aspects were discussed at the recent International Cultic Studies Association meeting, a group that helps people victimized by destructive cults.
6) An additional big problem now is that the Papal delegate is keeping people trapped in this system. What he said over the last few months to the consecrated is unacceptable (trashing TT, that those that stayed should not speak to those the leave, that they are distraction etc..). This goes against God’s given freedom of conscience. He is perpetuating a harmful cult-like environment.
7) Another analogy of freedom of individuals vs. the praxis of the institution is the Italian mod. For decades they had a strict code of conduct that kept the system intact. About 20 years ago it’s started to break down in the US. Many people got disaffected and left. So the mob adapted to new circumstance, but they did not change their goals, they have not become a “do good” organization (…even if they donate to charities at times). Although people did not join LCRC to be knowingly part of a con, the prime goal of MM’s creation was to deceive, to con. The full extent of the con is not known, as the Papal delegate refuses to investigate. Unless there is a proper outside criminal investigation, it will never be possible to find out what parts of the system were designed for what aspects of the con. This includes writing and rules. Many of us are concerned that the system to con has changed little.
8) Many of us think that it will not change unless the current leaders are removed. Also those that want to stay and “profit” from being members, accept the full baggage/responsibilities of this group, including the need to fix evil committed by MM and his system, by justly restituting those that were hurt (not with passive “we are so sorry you feel so hurt from being abused”; and includ those hurt by the cult-like aspect). You want to stay in, you fix it. Don’t live off the misery of others, just because it makes you “feel” so “holy”.
9) Also, if people want to stay they should do a sabbatical outside for 6-12 months, to break away from the cult like thinking, so they can freely discern. Only after, those that want to return, could elect new leaders, rename the group and give in a new charism from scratch.
10) You are right, as Catholic we should not fight. But there are canons that give us the right to express concerns. Most of us are not radicals, neither do we intent to leave the Church. So be prepared for ongoing pressure from people like us, if this continues the way it is. Peppering arguments willy-nilly with “God’s Will”, “We are all fallen instruments”, “We all need to forgive” etc.., etc…isn’t going to work.
11) From my understanding, God wills us to follow his 2 commandments: to Love Him and Neighbor. He taught us how to pray, so we can ask for his Grace to help overcome our sinful nature, with the help of the Holy Sprit. He gave us a heart and a mind to use. So let’s stop thinking that a solution will fall from the sky, especially if hearts and minds are not changed.
Hope this makes sense.
Peace.
So that means the Church is stuck with trying to reform the Legion, or at least letting it die on the vine.
If the Legion is going to be reformed a few things need to happen:
1) Legionaries need to give up the circular argument that "We are good because the Church approves us... and the Church approved us because we are good." Had the truth been better known, and had Maciel not been so adept at bribes and manipulation, the Legion would never have been approved. Its continued existence is the Church trying to make the best of a bad situation.
2) I know Legionaries have a great deal on their emotional plate right now, but they need to come to grips with the emotional wreckage that the congregation has left in its wake: there are thousands of ex-members, RC members, and benefactors who have been systematically manipulated and used. The Legion did that to to them, the Legion is responsible, the Legion needs to radically change.
3) The role of superiors in the intimate life of the members to be reduced. When superiors are spiritual directors, they will either not govern or they will manipulate their charges.
4) The pool of potential superiors needs to be expanded, and ordinary members need more say in how the congregation is governed. For all of its vaunted efficacy, the Legion has been fossilized in chronic bad behavior for years because of a ridged command structure and the same men occupying the same positions for decades.
5) Any proposed reform measures will be useless without a spiritual reform. LCs must avoid activism like the plague and start giving more than lip service to personal devotion to Christ, lectio divina, and learning to discern the voice of the Holy Spirit.
@ Tom
"You imply that approved statutes that were “valid” on paper. How do you know this?"
Does this statement from the LC web site mean anything to you?
"2004
On November 26, the Holy See grants definitive approval to the Regnum Christi Movement Statutes.
On the same day, John Paul II entrusts the care and management of the Pontifical Notre Dame of Jerusalem Institute to the Legionaries of Christ."
If so, what? I have always taken it to mean that the Vatican approves LC/RC. Assuming that Fr. Maciel "bribed" someone at the Vatican to give this approval, that does not explain the Vatican's continual support of the organizations - after the visitation and up until this day - Do you think that the current Pope and his Cardinals are corrupt? - Or, alternatively, do you think they are making a "big mistake"? - If so, what gives you confidence that you, or Father Berg, have any information that would add or detract from what they have already been given and analyzed?
I concur with your observation that leadership must change. Alvaro is woefully incompetent. Of that, I think everyone can agree. I have no idea why he did not recuse himself long ago.
Re: #4. I was referring to the individuals within the LC institution. The remaining men must lead the reform. Like Martin Luther King campaigning for civil rights. Eventually, the government changed. Individuals force institutional change.
Re: #5 I, and many others, never experienced the "cult like aspects" you describe. However, I was in a good section (DC). I think a lot of what you refer to depended upon the priests and 2G in your area. There are personnel problems with the church, worldwide, in this regard. You cannot micromanage things.
However, the 3G RC are another story. I have heard many negative things. Yet, I cannot substantiate any of it. I assumed that the Papal delegate could confirm the validity of statements submitted and that he knew more than I. Therefore, I thought that his comments were true. Why would he knowingly lie and "keep people trapped"? What possible benefit could he have in doing something like that?
I disagree with your comment that RC members need to "fix evil committed by MM and his system, by justly restituting those that were hurt" That is like saying I should pay reparations for evils committed by someone else. Like being taxed because my great, great, great grandfather owned a slave. I had nothing to do with this moral injustice and would have actively opposed slavery had I been alive at the time. Likewise, the overwhelming majority of RC would have spoken out against Fr. Maciel's depravity had they known about it. We are not guilty for his sins.
#10 and #11 insult my intelligence. My arguments are not weak nor did I ever imply that a solution would fall from the sky.
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@Campbell
I think it is good for you, Fr. Berg, and others to continue to speak out in love. It helps those on the inside to push reform. - However, it is lopsided to say they are completely evil. They have done a lot of good too. - So long as the LC are not suppressed, they are in the church. Are they not? So how can you claim they are not in or part of the church? - Look at the diocesean scandals in Philadelphia, California, Boston, Ireland; Boston, Germany. Are the victims of those abusive priests any less important? Is the damage inflicted any less prevalent? For decades, multiple priests abused innocent children entrusted to their care. Homosexuality is rampant in some seminaries and orders. The Legionaries have problems, but can you honestly say they are significantly different than those faced by Catholics elsewhere?
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@ Monahan
I agree with your comments. Time will tell.
However, I disagree that "the suppression of the Legion in Mexico just isn't feasible". The Pope could dissolve the order and implement a process of transferring property and responsibiities to local clergy if he desired to do so. To imply that he makes decisions based upon material considerations and not spiritual truth is disturbing. You may be right, but it's still disturbing. If true, it gives people reason to shun the church.
And, I guess that is what it comes down to for me. I trust those leading our church. I cannot perpetually second guess or try to do their job for them. If what they tell me isn't true, as some people claim, then I'm a fool. But, I have not left critical thinking at the door. I have reasoned through things and come to this conclusion.
Diocesan priests who are guilty of abusing minors are fined and sent to jail. Men who do not hide behind Roman collars and who abuse minors are called pedophiles and serve time in prison. Men who sexually abuse women are called rapists and they are given prison sentences. There are rules that even orthodox Catholics must abide by. Yes, even the Legionaries of Christ and their accomplices, Regum Christi.
1) “Do you think that the current Pope and his Cardinals are corrupt?”
I really like both JP2 and Benedict, not just as Popes, but also as teachers, from their writings and sermons. JP2 was also a towering figure in the fight against the iron curtain. I don’t think they are corrupt. But I think they are humans, and like Saint Peter, can make mistakes. As far as Cardinals, I am sure that as young priest, most started with great intentions, but who knows what happens with time. We know, for example, that Cardinal Sodano’s nephew was a contactor for the Roman LC campus. This same nephew was also in partnership with real estate master con artist, Raffaello Follieri, who went to jail. So yes, I think that some Cardinals can succumb to earthly temptations, like any one of us. Smart conmen like MM know how to exploit such weaknesses.
Xavier Leger, an ex French legionnaire gives an account in his blog, on Pope Benedict’s visit to the Roman LC campus still under constitution, in 2000. His secretary mentioned to the LC superior at the time, that Pope Benedict said «I have to change my concept of miracle!» and «It is here that the counter reformation starts!». From Pope Benedict’s book, we know that at that time he already knew about MM. So yes, it appears that, that despite an evil founder, Pope Benedict was impressed by LC buildings.
The topic of the ICSA meeting was the notion of “fruits”. LCRCers often says “look at all the good fruits”. It appears that “fruits” means real estate now.
Furthermore Xavier says that he had a conversation with a highly placed Vatican priest, who said:
“I for one, am convinced that, in the case of the Legion, if the biological children had not come to claim their inheritance after the death of Maciel, based on irrefutable DNA evidence, the hierarchy would had continued to ignored complaints from ex-legionaries coming from all direction, accusing Maciel of sexual abuse, drug addiction, corruption and manipulation….”
So sadly, it appears that the only reason the MM/LCRC scandal came to light in the end, was because MM’s children forced the Church, with DNA evidence. They probably would have gone public themselves and sued the Church and/or LCRC.
2) “I, and many others, never experienced the "cult like aspects" you describe”
Until recently people made private vows of absolute obedience and to never criticize MM. A mark of most extreme cult is a) absolute elitism, b) absolute obedience. It’s a tradeoff. For accepting to do anything for the cult guru, one is made to feel “super special.” These vows were abolished in LC I think in about 2004-2005, and much later for the 3gf (with LC priests lying to parents about this). However, nobody ever said to LCRCs that people can not hold these vows privately, and stay true to MM’s “spirit”. How many current leaders are still, in their hearts, followers of MM’s vows and remain obedient to MM? Just look at Fr Garza’s statements in the last 12 months. In September he said the MM was a psychopath. Now, backtracking, he recently said that it was only in the late 1990’s that he noticed something wrong. So the narrative is changing, MM seems to be rehabilitated.
What is incomprehensible for me is how the Vatican approved RC/3gf , knowing that the founder was a man that had intercourse/families with multiple women, and allegedly abused at least one of his children in addition to others. To boot, Cardinal Rode’s approval letter was vague from a canonical point of view, opening the door for emotional abuse. Please explain that to me, Philip, why this happened? I don’t have an answer. It is shocking.
Also in LC, it is still ok, to this day, to teach MM as long as he is not cited. How can an order use the “teachings” of an unrepentant criminal for religious education? Please explain that to me.
3) “Yet, I cannot substantiate any of it.”
Are you implying that stories in 49weeks are lies?
Recently an ex lc posted on life-after-RC that he knew of ex lcs that went to jail or were on drugs. I myself witness the deception in our parish. In Atlanta where I live, there are many families that were adversely affected.
In typical cults, there are those that are true believer, like yourself, those that leave and are not too badly affected (even most Holocaust survivors moved on with their lives), those that become vocal against the group, and those are that are damaged (in any major life trauma, there are about 20-25% of people that have a harder time to recover). True believers will always dismiss or downplay any damage, like what Tom Cruise is doing now. This is not even mentioning other damages, like our Church’s reputation.
My impression is, if the Pope truly knew first hand of the emotional and psychological abuse and danmage, he would have disbanded LCRC long ago. But I also think the Pope is kept in the dark, and is not being informed.
If the hierarchy had sense, they would do a study how many were hurt, in order to prevent this from ever happing again. A few harmed, even one, are too many.
4) “What possible benefit could he have in doing something like that”
How about 30 billion euros worth of reasons? Its not only buildings, this can be extremely lucrative for the leaders, the “fruits”!
5) “I disagree with your comment that RC members need to "fix evil committed by MM and his system”
Thanks, you confirmed why LCRC needs to be shut down now. To this day, all Germans pay restitutions to Jewish families affected by the Holocaust, via taxes. BP share holders are paying billions to fix the Gulf oil spill. Penn State alumni will pay for year the Sandusky cover up, the football program may be shut down. If you want to be part of LCRC so you can feel “super special”, that is your trip, but you have to pay for it, by paying restitutions to those that were damaged by this organization. Don’t pass on the buck on the rest of us. Take responsability of your choices.
“#10 and #11 insult my intelligence”
That was not my intentions, but by the same token, please stop lecturing all of us about “God’s Will”, “good fruits”, “all the good we do”, etc.. deal?
Peace man.
Thank you Fr. Berg. A very interesting dialog.
Love and peace in Christ to all who posted here.
Yes. Because no other outfit in the Catholic Church was founded by a child rapist and crook in order to control and malform people so as to have his harem and plenty of money to spend on mistresses, bastards, etc.
Next?
Let me recap your points. My response are in caps.
#1 tells me that you think that John Paul II was most likely unintentionally duped by the Legionaries of Christ, but Pope Benedict XVI intentionally continued to support them because of real estate considerations. Additionally, it is your opinion, that no one in the Vatican would have even addressed the scandals involving Fr. Maciel had his biological children not stepped forward and provided irrefutable DNA evidence.
I, TOO, THINK JOHN PAUL II WAS DECEIVED. HOWEVER, I DO NOT BELIEVE POPE BENEDICT XVI SUPPORTS THE LC/RC BECAUSE OF REAL ESTATE INTERSTS. HE COULD EASILY ISSUE A 5-10 YEAR PLAN TO DISSOLVE THE ORDER AND HAVE EVERYTHING ABSORBED INTO LOCALIITIES.
YOU MAY BE RIGHT ABOUT THE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN AND PHYSICAL EVIDENCE. HOWEVER, THE REASON FOR THE DELAY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SINISTER. IT MAY HAVE BEEN BECAUSE YOU CANNOT LEVEL CHARGES AGAINST SOMEONE WITHOUT CREDIBLE EVIDENCE. CIRCUMSTANTIAL HEARSAY TYPICALLY DOES NOT CARRY MUCH WEIGHT IN JUDICIAL SYSTEMS. "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY" IS SOMETIMES A DIFFICULT CONCEPT TO LIVE BY. HOWEVER, IT IS THE MOST RIGHTEOUS WAY TO RUN A COURT OF LAW.
#2 Many people never spoke about the "cult like aspects" because they were under a vow of silence. This vow has been officially removed, but you think that some people mey still follow it "in spirit". It may still be in the LC culture. This is evident by some of the leaders comments that seem to soften the reality of who Maciel was and what he did. You do not understand how or why the Vatican continues to support the LC/RC organizations and believe that their statements may allow emotional abuse and faulty religious education to take place.
I AM NOT A LEGIONARY OF CHRIST. THEREFORE, I CANNOT COMMENT AS TO WHAT THEIR CULTURE WAS LIKE BEFORE AND AFTER THE VOW OF SILENCE WAS LIFTED. I ALSO CANNOT COMMENT ON WHAT MOST OF THE CURRENT LC THINK OF FR. MACIEL. I SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW. YET, NEITHER DO YOU KNOW. CLEARLY, SOME LCs ARE READING THIS POST. THEY HAVE COMMENTED USING THEIR NAMES AND TITLES. THE SUCCESSFUL REFORMATION OF THE LC/RC LIES IN THEIR HANDS. THEY CANNOT ALLOW THE LC/RC CONTINUE ON AS THEY HAVE IN THE PAST, WITH 'INSTITUTIONAL RESISTANCE' TO DEEP INTROSPECTION AND CHANGE.
WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO PUBLIC STATEMENTS ISSUED BY SOME HIGH LEVEL LEGIONARIES OF CHRIST AND THE VATICAN. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME VERY STRONG CONDEMNATIONS OF FATHER MACIEL BY BOTH. YET, THERE ARE SOME EXTREMELY POSITIVE, SUPPORTIVE MESSAGES REGARDING THE ORGANIZATIONS. THIS SEEMS TO BE A POINT OF GREAT CONFUSION FOR YOU. IT IS TO MOST PEOPLE.
I INTERPRET IT TO MEAN THAT WHILE FATHER MACIEL IS ROUNDLY CONDEMNED, THE LC/RC ARE NOT. THE POPE AND VATICAN WANT, AND HAVE GREAT HOPE, THAT THEY WILL REFORM AND CONTINUE WORKING WITHIN THE CHURCH. THEY ALSO DO NOT HOLD CURRENT MEMBERS RESPONSIBLE FOR FATHER MACIEL'S PAST CRIMES.
I DO NOT BELIEVE, AS YOU DO, THAT THE POPE OR VATICAN OFFICIALS WERE BRIBED OR ONLY CONSIDERING THINGS FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE WHEN ISSUING THEIR STATEMENTS.
#3 You have read blogs discussing and witnessed the negative experiences of some people leaving the LC/RC. You think that I am an ardent believer in a cult and that the Pope does not know about the psychological and emotional problems that individuals experience when leaving these organizations. If he did, he would shut them down. Additionally, "if the hierarchy had any sense", they would study what happened here to make sure it never happens again.
I HAVE NOT READ THE BLOG YOU REFER TO. HOWEVER, I THINK FOR THE VATICAN TO MAKE A DECISION ON SOMETHING IT NEEDS TO BE OF A MORE PROFESSIONAL STATURE. THEY RECEIVED SIGNED LETTERS AND DEPOSITIONS FROM HUNDREDS, MAYBE THOUSANDS, OF PEOPLE FOR AND AGAINST THE LC/RC. I THINK THEY HAVE A GREATER PERSPECTIVE ON THE SITUATION THAN YOU GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR. THEY ARE WELL VERSED ON EVERYTHING. AND, THEY CHOSE NOT TO SHUT THEM DOWN. THEY ENCOURAGE THEM TO CARRY ON.
I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IN THEIR JUDGMENT. WHEREAS, YOU SAY THEY HAVE NO SENSE. I THINK THEY HAVE GREATER A UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION THAN THOSE OF US WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF REVIEWING THE TOTALITY OF EVIDENCE SUBMITTED. I AM CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL STUDY HOW THIS HAPPENED AND TAKE STEPS TO ENSURE IT NEVER OCCURS AGAIN. LOOK AT HOW THE USA REFORMED AFTER THE SEX ABUSE SCANDALS.
#4 The visatators, Cardinals, are corrupt. They issued a report in support of LC/RC and have made positive comments because they are bribed or somehow financially benefit from the LC/RC existence.
I DO NOT THINK THIS IS AN ACCURATE STATEMENT. FURTHER, YOU PROVIDE NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT. IT IS SLANDEROUS.
#5 Because I do not believe in reparations like those currently being paid to Jews by all Germans (including those innocent people who had nothing to do with World War II) for war crimes committed from 1939-1945, that is great proof that the LC/RC should be shut down. Further, you think that being a part of LC/RC makes me feel "special" and is "my trip". If I choose to be member, then I must financially compensate anyone in the past who may have been harmed by their participation in them.
DO YOU BELIEVE YOU SHOULD PAY REPARATIONS FOR YOUR GREAT, GREAT GRANDFATHER OWNING A SLAVE? PROBABLY NOT. WHY? BECAUSE YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. YOU WERE BORN SEVERAL GENERATIONS LATER.
IF YOU DO BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD PAY REPARATIONS, THEN HOW MANY GENERATIONS SHOULD THAT CONTINUE FOR? 5 GENERATIONS? 10? WHEN WILL THERE EVER BE FORGIVENESS? HOW MANY GENERATIONS MUST SUFFER FOR THEIR DISTANT ANCESTORS' SINS? HOW MUCH MONEY WILL EVER BE ENOUGH TO FULFILL THE DEBT? MAKE THE INJUSTICE RIGHT?
BEING PART OF RC IS NOT A "TRIP" FOR ME, NOR DOES IT MAKE ME FEEL "SPECIAL". I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT THE WEEKLY MEETINGS, ACCOUNTABILITY AND DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER PEOPLE OF FAITH, RETREATS, AND ACTIVITIES ARE GREAT. I TOTALLY ENJOT THEM AND HAVE NOTHING LIKE IT IN ANY OF THE PARISHES SURROUNDING MY HOME. I THINK THEY HAVE SOME GOOD THINGS TO OFFER PEOPLE AND THAT IS WHY I AM INVOLVED WITH THEM.
IT MAY NOT BE FOR YOU, AND I RESPECT THAT. HOWEVER, IT SURE IS HELPING ME AND MY FAMILY. YOU CAN DO YOUR THING AND I'LL DO MINE. THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE IN THE CHURCH. I WON'T EXPECT YOU TO PAY FOR THE CORRUPTION IN YOUR NECK OF THE WOODS.
#10 and #11 You did not mean to insult my intelligence, but felt as if I should not speak about anything positive within the LC/RC. So long as I fulfill that request, you will not level such ridiculous charges against me.
HAHAHA
PEACE TO YOU TOO MY BROTHER.
Actually, you are insofar as members of LC/RC committed detraction against Maciel's victims who had come forward to expose the truth regarding Maciel, even if you truly believed Maciel to be innocent. As explained by the Catholic Encyclopedia commissioned under Pope St. Pius X:
"The detractor having violated an unimpeachable right of another is bound to restitution. He must do his best to put back the one whom he has thus outraged in possession of the fair fame which the latter hitherto enjoyed. He must likewise make good whatever other loss he in some measure foresaw his victim would sustain as a result of this unfair defamation, such as damage measurable in terms of money. The obligation in either instance is perfectly clear... The obligation of the detractor to make compensation for pecuniary loss and the like is not only personal but BECOMES A BURDEN ON HIS HEIRS AS WELL." (emphasis mine)
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04757a.htm
In short, when Maciel and his followers falsely denounced Maciel's victims as liars and enemies of the Church, they committed the offense of detraction. There is now a clear obligation on the part of these individuals to make restitution to Maciel's victims. Moreover, as Maciel's spiritual heirs, this obligation passes on to the LC/RC.
Again, this goes back to my earlier comment that many orthodox Catholics are concerned that LC/RC, while claiming orthodoxy, lacks orthopraxis. A moral requirement to apologize for one's wrongdoing, especially when one's wrongdoing has unjustly harmed the reputation of others, is one of the first lessons taught in the Baltimore Catechism. Thus it is very difficult for orthodox Catholics to understand why LC/RC - with its claims of orthodoxy and loyalty the Church, its extended seminary formation process, and its countless priests with advanced degrees in moral theology - appears to have such difficulty understanding the need to apologize and make restitution to its victims whose reputations were unjustly tarnished.
Re: “#4 The visatators, Cardinals, are corrupt. They issued a report in support of LC/RC and have made positive comments because they are bribed or somehow financially benefit from the LC/RC existence”
I never said that, I just quoted the total estimated value of LCRC according to respected Vatican specialized journalist, Sandro Magister. When there are such hugh sums of money, of course it plays role. The Church would be foolish not to take it under consideration. But it should not be the only factor, either.
For the rest, you are obviously upset. But please understand that there are people hurt not only by MM, but by the methods he instituted. These people are are left struggling by themselves. What is being done about it? The fact is the official Church has not much in this regard. But we are all members of the Church. So what are we doing? Don’t you think we should have some real compassion, understanding? I meet several of them, they are alive now, not slaves long dead. You said something about “love”, love is not just a word, it’s hard to implement at times for all of us. This is my last post. All the best, and prayers.
Supporters of the LC/RC will not win a "get out of jail free card" because they chose to follow a corrupt Catholic organization approved by a bunch of men who wear red and white hats.
It's time that the LC/RC and their supporters put their trust and salvation in Jesus Christ, not man.
When I was drawn into Regnum Christi, it was largely due to the influence of one very good Legionary priest. I'llalways wonder why he didn't spare me the grief and trouble I have experienced, because he later told me there were things he 'd believed all along about the founder and the abuse victims. Maybe what I am asking now is along the same line as the question "how can you take orders from these guys.", but my question is this: how can RCs and LCs keep recruiting people to the movement knowing that so many people (and not just MM's victims) have suffered? Seeing the recent news about pre-candidates and their 77 signature petition to the Vatican, describing their ordeal in the pre-candidacy, or hearing about 3gfs who went to visit Totus Tuus as an option for their future, and were shunned upon their return - these are current problems, and not attributable to the founder.
So if you recruit people to RC, do you warn them in advance that the system is being reformed, and that there has actually been a lot of suffering and scandal that has come out of RC and LC? Because I think this comes down to free will again. Do you use your free will to recruit people and withhold this information?does an LC counseling someone on retreat warn them about incorporating, that things are in the process of reform, and it might be a good idea to wait to get involved? If a young man is discerning a vocation, do LCs now suggest this isn't the best time to consider the Legion, and point them in the direction of another group? It seems to me, you are stuck between two bad choices. Do you recruit, knowing it may result in harm? On the other hand, if you think it's better not to recruit, then what are you doing with this group that you can't in good conscience invite people to participate?
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1992502,00.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases
I am sure you can find a more exhaustive list if you conduct further searches. Once you read some of these articles, you will see parallels between them and LC/RC.
Pete Vere says “In short, when Maciel and his followers falsely denounced Maciel's victims as liars and enemies of the Church, they committed the offense of detraction.”
First off, I never called them liars. I did not know what to think at the time I heard of the accusations. I expected the church would discern truth and get to the bottom of it. As a general rule, I prefer to think people are innocent until proven guilty. However, I made no comment for or against the victims.
I would also like to point out that many disgruntled former RC/LC post slanderous, unsubstantiated comments leveling very serious charges against Vatican officials (corruption, bribery, etc.) without a care in the world for how it might impact them personally or the church negatively. There must be a name for that type of sin as well.
Secondly, can you provide one authenticated quote where an LC called the victims “liars and enemies of the church”? I did not read, nor hear any such a comment. My impression was that most people relied on Fr. Alvaro’s public statement about Father Maciel choosing to suffer and remain silent….which, now, we know was completely deceptive.
For that outrage, everyone, all the way up to the Vatican, should be upset. You must understand that we were victims too! Fr. Berg was a victim. Fr. Gill was a victim. I was a victim. Anyone who trusted Fr. Alvaro was a victim. I will never understand why the Vatican let him get away with that falsehood for two years. We, in retrospect, placed too much trust in them to condemn it if it was a lie. Their silence gave tacit approval to Alvaro’s statement and bolstered its credibility. Alvaro should have been immediately removed from his position after such a blatant untruth.
I cannot speak for everyone, but I do think the vast majority of current RC/LC would like to see Fr Alvaro and the major superiors removed. We believe that they knew of Fr. Maciel’s depravity and transgressions and have an obligation to “make restitution to Maciel's victims.” They should personally and publicly apologize for lying and making the victims lives that much more anguished.
Eventually, the LC (as an institution) did issue generic apologies to the victims. Yet, I agree with Fr. Thomas Berg’s analysis that it always seems to be too little, too late. It is almost as if there must be overwhelming pressure, from within and without, in order for them to do the right thing. This is troubling. Yet, I have more hope than you do that the remaining LC/RC will, individually and collectively, unceasingly persevere and push for truth and reform.
It’s too bad the general counsel is so far off. That is when heads will roll. That is when real, extensive change begins. I suppose the great fear is that the only ones left will be “Macielistas” or that no one will care anymore. It will be too late and the LC/RC will be condemned to die a slow death. That is why letters like Fr. Berg’s are a blessing. It keeps people focused on pushing for reform. Ultimately, as I’ve said many times, the fate of the LC remains with the men still there. They are the only ones with real power to push for, no demand, change. The RC have a much more limited ability to influence anything at all.
You wonder why I stay. It’s a fair enough question. My answer is that I love it. I have never found anything like it in the church. I tried. It’s a good fit for me. And, as much as anyone can discern God’s will with clarity, feels like that is where I am called to be. It’s as simple as that.
Reforms are not always easy. However, they are possible. Many other church dioceses and institutions faced the truth of the evil within them and worked to eradicate it as much as humanly possible. The pattern of cover up that outrages you re: the Legion of Christ, has happened in these other places.
Cardinal Law in Boston.
Ireland’s systemic abuse was horrific. It has caused so much damage. It’s almost incomprehensible.
Look at what difficulties Archbishop Chaput had in Philadelphia
http://www.snapnetwork.org/pa_victims_want_philly_catholic_official_defrocked
and read these
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlements_and_bankruptcies_in_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases
And, so while acknowledging the LC/RC scandal is horrific, I do think it is something that they can recover from – as these other Catholic organizations did. -
I agree with Chaput’s comments in this article
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/archbishop-chaput-the-church-belongs-to-jesus-christ/
Lastly, I do think there should be some sort of one time financial restitution to Maciel’s victims – as there were in these other church cases. The above link touches upon some of the multi-million dollar settlements with victims that have bankrupted some dioceses.
Settlements occur so both parties can move on. No amount of money can ever right the wrong perpetuated. However, it can bring them some financial comfort to the victims and perhaps good counseling. Forgiveness must take place for victim and repentant sinner to heal. Additionally, in these awful cases, there are innocent third party parishioners hit by the schrapnel. They, too, need to forgive their corrupt leaders and heal. To trust again. The church leaders and institutions need to recognize the need to rebuild broken relationships and trust as well as set up policies and procedures to ensure that they are better in the future.
Yet, settlements are different than reparations. I do not think it is right for victims to expect long-term ongoing payments from parishioners in those dioceses simply because they are part of the Catholic Church. Likewise, after a one time settlement with the LC, I do not think Maciel’s victims should expect long term, on-going payments from the RC because they are part of the RC/LC organizations.
So, Pete, we will have to agree to disagree that “as Maciel's spiritual heirs, this obligation passes on to the LC/RC”. Using this logic, Cardinal Law’s Boston parishioners should all still be paying for his crimes. Likewise, Chaput’s in Philadelphia – just go down the onerous list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases_by_country
I am heartened to see that you feel free enough to state some negatives, something I have not heard from any LCs in any sincere and honest fashion. Negatives like Fr Alvaro and his lack of honesty or leadership, your disappointment with the superiors. Anyone In their right mind should be appalled by the lies and deception. I hope you feel free within the Legion to speak this honestly. I am not optimistic for reform, however, because I don't feel confident LCs like you are numerous enough or bold enough to drive a reform process against the current of habitual passivity and groupthink. maybe I'm wrong.
Can I take your comments on the superiors to mean that when asked the question "how can you take orders from these guys?", your answer is "I don't like it and hope not for much longer", is this an accurate view?
I confess i find it hard to respect LCs who stay in the Legion following the orders of the current leadership, because it does seem to reflect an agreement or a solidarity with them. To use a terrible analogy, it would be like working for a company when you know they are dumping toxic waste in the local river. It doesn't matter to me if you're doing a great job, and that you're not dumping the toxic waste, if you know it's happening and you stay there, and you don't try to put a stop to it, you are guilty by association.
Conversation between the Legion and critics can be helpful for the reform process. I hope there will be more of it, and I thank you for coming here. Please come back.
The ripple effect of sin, individually and collectively, can never be eradicated completely from the face of the earth. Today's Mass readings are very applicable to the situation at hand. (15th week Ordinary Time Lectionary:392) We suffer here on earth for 3 reasons: (1) our own sins (2) evil done to us by others (3) God's chastisement for cultural corruption.
The LC/RC problems mirror the church at large. And, they will be solved the same way. For the church is not merely mortal, but Divine.
No men could possibly solve such problems on their own. We cannot save ourselves. Nor can we legislate morality. God is the answer to all transformation, change, progress. And, so, as individuals, we must die to our own sins, agendas, selves. We must examine ourselves, and our institutions, through God's eyes and seek the path He has for us. It is difficult and purgative.
Yet, if we do not put up obstacles to His grace, and cooperate with it, then He will work through us to bring forth a new creation. A new life. New sunrise. new beginning.
Today's Gospel may be one of the most beautiful passages ever written:
"Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you and learn from me,
for I am meek and humble of heart;
and you will find rest for yourselves.
For my yoke is easy, and my burden light."
- Matthew 11:28-30
There is a certain sense of peace when you you are right with God and doing His bidding. That is how I feel with this reform. As do the others who have stayed. The Holy Spirit's presence works miracles and brings about joy in even the most difficult circumstances. It's truly amazing.
“There is a certain sense of total revolt of explicit, crass sin, when one tries to be right with God and do His bidding. That is how I feel with this reform. As do many others who left. The Holy Spirit's presence works miracles and brings about joy in even the most difficult circumstances, gives perseverance and courage in the fight against sin, in the name of love of God and others. It's truly amazing.”
For 5 cents (ok, I am not a millionaire, so a poor RC candidate), spot the difference.
Lee, I answered all ten of your rapid-fire questions to the best of my ability in various comment boxes of this blog. I did so in truth and freedom to the best of my ability. Perhaps you disagreee, however, your claim that I have not made my positions clear is nonsensical.
Additionally, you know nothing of my interior spiritual life. Do you ever have the slightest tinge of regret for hurling accusations, insults, and condemnations on others?
-->agree, its not easy, under circumstances, but got to keep trying! Peace man.
Yet this is not a journey of personal satisfaction. We all find peace in Christ. Does that mean we should ignore justice? Does that mean Fear of the Lord is secondary?
I don't know how there is peace or serenity when the very men who defended Maciel, persecuted those who claimed abuse by him, lied to Popes, helped him steal millions, all remain in power. And like Phillip they say things like "we search for Peace in Christ" and "we all must carry our cross" etc etc... and they use the GOOD of the Church to cover up the EVIL of the LC.
And there is real, physical evil that was done and continued to remain unaddressed. And I will not stop hammering away at that point until someone explains it to me.
Let's drop the analogies of toxic waste. Analogies are not needed. Let's use real examples: it's like dozens of LC's going to their superiors in shame and fear saying they were raped by MM and then being handed a plane ticket and defamed to the community as "not having a vocation" to the LC. How's that example?
Alvaro and Garza and Sada didn't dump toxic waste. They covered up Maciel's rape of his own seminarians, and until those 3 are called to account for their cover up and inaction, I have no respect for the LC and those who profess loyalty to a corrupt and vile institution that I am ashamed to have been part of.
Maciel is dead- his evil lives on. How that brings peace or serenity to anyone I will never understand. It brings me nausea and rage.
I joined the Legion in 1989, was told to leave because lack o vocation in 2000. Thank you Fr. Berg for this article, of course different opinions will appear. As a former legionary I only hope the best for the legion, yet many obstacles (LC´s) coul delay the renewal of this order. I recall taking Fr. Hennigan to the airport for his "new appoinment" as a dean in Wala Wala (australia) but I was told no to write him, since he was in a period of reflection and bad influence could hurt me. He was a holy priest, excellent teacher a very humble person. It is sad the way the deal with him. To both men I send my respect.
Thank you for speaking out. As Paul Lennon put it, yours is a voice of faith and reason. The Legion should have been suppressed long ago. It is greatly to be lamented that Maciel was rehabilitated in the 1950s.
I still get quite angry thinking about Maciel. I never was an LC, but I knew the lives of some of the great religious founders. St. Jeanne Jugan, foundress of the Little Sisters of the Poor, was usurped from office. St. Alphonsus Liguori faced being removed from his own Congregation. The holy founders of the religious institutes suffered greatly. I so wanted to believe that Maciel was being falsely accused.
Then, in 2006, all such illusions I held were definitively shattered and the Holy Father shattered them. I deeply regret defending Maciel.
My heart hurts for the seminarians and priests of the Legion. Not for its superiors, but for the very good and generous men who've sought to follow the gospel of Christ by living out the Evangelical Counsels.
Just penalties will have to be inflicted on the superiors. What those will be is up to the Holy Father, should he choose to inflict them. If this sordid affair doesn't cry out for expiatory penalties, I don't know what would.
I just simply ask...who were you all following? Why would M's sins, "upended the fundamental understanding of the religious family on which they based their choice to join the congregation in the first place." Sins of the founder do not change the fact that NO ONE should have been a Legionary because of him. They should not have been following a man or basing their vocation on him. They should have been following CHRIST and wanting to serve CHRIST and HIS CHURCH. Maybe those who have been so shaken by this, and cannot understand why anyone could stay in the Legion, should examine this. Were you/are you so wounded because you placed your confidence in something other than God?
Thank God that God works through sinful people. Or he could do nothing through me, a sinner. Look at the bible...look at David, St. Paul and countless others....look at the Holy Catholic Church. GOD will preserve the Legion if it is HIS WILL. All of this only confirms to me that it MUST be God's will...if it was solely reliant on man/men/women, then it would never have survived. Those of you who are spreading calumny and detraction will have to answer before God. You will. But for me, I will pray for and focus on the many, many, many amazing men and HOLY priests who are in the Legion of Christ...those whom I have been privileged to know over the years. I thank God that HE has called so many men and women to serve Him in the Legion and Regnum Christi. Thy Kingdom Come!
Please. Get. Out.
"God works through sinful people, but arrogant persons also claim to work in God's name and clearly do not. Even the Bible gives us many examples of false prophets.
"God will preserve the Legion if it is HIS WILL. All of this only confirms to me that it MUST be God's will...if it was solely reliant on man/men/women, then it would never have survived."
Many things in history have survived for a short time that are clear NOT good for people. Pelagianism prospered for a time within the Church. Today we see Islam continuing to grow and prosper. What's the difference that makes the Legion so much better just for surviving?
You admonish Fr. Berg to silence. Yet silence always favors the aggressor, and continues to the attack on the victim (as Pope Benedict states much more eloquently in Light of the World). If there is no problem, let us discuss the issues frankly, without encouraging those who have been injured to silence. If he has spoken a falsehood, let's state so. If he has spoken a truth, we need to affirm it. But if he's still hurting, there's a reason, and the least we can do is listen and share in his suffering.
1. "For continuing this tirade against your brothers" What tirade? Such hyperbole. Father Thomas Berg was extremely balanced in his comments. Perhaps you could indicate specifically the points where you disagree with him?
2. How do you know he is the priest he is because of his 23 years in the Legion? How arrogant of you to claim such knowledge. Did you witness his childhood, his upbringing, or the personal holiness he brought to his priesthood? Which unique gifts specifically did the Legion contribute to Father Thomas Berg that are not part of the Universal Church and available to any priest inside or outside the Legion?
3. "All of the legionaries I have known have continued to love and support those that left". Again, how arrogant and omniscient of you to know what every Legionary has done. Personally, I was dropped like a bag of trash when I left. The Legionaries I know who have left have had no contact, nor support from their so-called brothers. How many ex-LCs are you actually in contact with that you can even comment?
4. The reason Maciel’s sins would "upend the fundamental understanding of the religious family they chose to join” - my answer is how could it not? Think about it and be honest. A young man discerning the priesthood would think twice about joining a congregation whose founder was a serial sexual abuser with multiple children from two or three different women. He would likely take his vocation elsewhere. It is at least fair to think he'd like the option of knowing!
5. I believe most or all Legionaries went in with the desire to follow Christ, to serve Christ. Does this mean they should be indifferent to the acts of the founder, or the suffering of his victims, or the deception and cover-up perpetrated by their superiors? We now know the superiors knew many sick truths about the founder years ago (Garza, Corcuera have admitted as much) yet they chose to continue to treat Maciel as a saint, even past his death. You may be fine with being lied to, but many of us expect better of priests.
6. "God will preserve the Legion if it is his will? This is a very childish theology. Using your logic, many other groups could make the same claim. God must be preserving Scientologists, Al Qaeda, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, white supremacists, Muslims, etc. God grants free will, so he will never force a reform onto the Legion. God did not stop the enterprise when Maciel was at the helm, do you think it was His will for Maciel to continue, to be free to father children and abuse his own sons?
7. Maybe you’re right, many of us will have to answer to God for our rage and judgment of what we see as a blight on the Church, maybe what we see as righteous anger is wrong. But you too, my friend, will have some things to answer for too. Because if you stand with the Legion and Regnum, and don't exhort your fellow members to address the victims of Maciel, or change the ways of your movement that has done much damage to souls and to the Church, then you have done too little for the least of these. Mind the log in your own eye.
I tried to urge my 3gf daughter to take a year away because I am absolutely certain that she was manipulated into making a decision for Maciel (after only five months) based on deceitful assumptions and since then has been held there by the same mind control tactics any other cult group uses. I believe that spiritual direction was used as a weapon to keep her enslaved as well as fear and guilt.
In summary:
People good, founder bad, structure bad, cult methodology exceedingly bad. Charism non existent. Current LC leaders bad. Corrupt Church leaders that have infiltrated the Vatican and shared the Legion wealth bad.
The legion makes us think that criticism is sinful, that it is anger, that it is a very negative hurtful thing that must be avoided at all costs.
That is not so. Anger can use criticism to hurt, but that does not make criticism evil.
Criticism is very important for our protection. Without it we are vulnerable. Criticism can be unemotional and objective. The Legion only sees criticism as subjective. This is very immature and adolescent.
I hope that we are all able to shrug off somehow this terrible formation surrounding criticism, that we no longer confuse criticism with aggression or hate.
Perhaps we could consider how these malformations regarding criticism was a useful tool for maciel to attack his victims and protect himself - it gave him an institutionalised carte blanche.
I would also like to hear ANYONE tell me a single good that the Legion does. People argue: they are so good! look at the fruits! but I don't see any good, I dont see any fruits, I see a lot of people repeating what they were taught by the smiley priest.
1. Presumably untouchable leadership figures were removed. Some of them now face criminal charges on an individual basis.
2. An independent audit was conducted of the program and the charities involved, in keeping with the infallible rule: "follow the money and you'll get the whole story".
3. Financial penalties to the tune of $60M are to be paid to an independently administrated fund to benefit abuse victims over a period of five years.
4. Scholarship and recruiting limitations are imposed on the program for the duration of the clean-up.
The Penn State scandal began with the crimes of one man, a larger-than-life figure in the university. The entire program was implicated for what was called 'institutional negligence'. A college football program that was considered 'too big to fail' was radically sanctioned in order to definitively clean house, honor the victims and prevent future scandals. All of this was done in relatively short order.
Nothing remotely similar has yet taken place during the dubious process of renovation and reform of the LC. The leadership (hand picked by Maciel himself) is still intact, altough there has been some negligible reshuffling of the furniture. There has been no sign of the promised audit of the LC's finances (follow the money!). Instead, Fr. Luis Garza has been given time and space to sweep all the dirt under the rug. No compensation and precious little recognition has been given the victims of the multiform abuse of Maciel and the institution he spawned. Recruiting, while more difficult under the shadow of the scandal, has continued unabated with incredibly clueless young men being pushed through the system and ordained in a religious order whose future and legitimacy are gravely suspect.
Not since the Borgias sullied the marble corridors of the Vatican has such scandal and shame been brought upon the Church by a 'family' so intimately connected to its inner workings.
Might not some inspiration be taken from the Penn State case by those who would truly see the LC disaster finally put right?
There are those who think that the future General Chapter of the Legion will initiate real change and transparency. I can only assume, based on past performances, that the results of the Chapter have already been scripted and prefabricated. The participants will have no unchoreographed roles nor be allowed any unwanted input. The package is signed and sealed, waiting merely to be delivered and applauded.
Rev. Pablo Pérez Guajardo, ordained an LC priest in 1991, has been removed from priestly ministry and denied all recourse in the Prelature of Quintana Roo, Mexico, where he has labored tirelessly as pastor and social advocate of some of the poorest indigenous communities of the LC mission territory for over 15 years. Padre Pablo’s crime? Speaking out truthfully and courageously about the nightmarish legacy of Fr. Maciel and the frustrating farse of the LC’s phantom reform to anyone who would listen… and to more than a few who wouldn’t.
The only glimpse of the rationale behind the heavy-handed sanctions so gratuitously deposited on Fr. Pablo’s slight but steadfast shoulders appears in a carefully choreographed exchange of letters between Rodolfo Mayagoitia, LC (LC superior) and Mons. Pedro Pablo Elizondo, LC (bishop of the Prelature). Fr. Pablo was never received personally by the bishop regarding his elimination, despite his request for an interview. Elizondo disingenuously cites CDC n.682 to justify this travesty, accusing Padre Pablo of ‘upsetting the ecclesial harmony of the Prelature’. He is ominously advised in a post script to adhere to his punishment or suffer the full force of a Canonical clobbering.
(For the ‘full story’, such as it is at present, check out: http://contrastenoticias.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/padre-pablo-001.jpg)
Compare this, if you will, with the LC’s non-handling of the Thomas Williams affair.
The TW debacle is a bona fide, old-school scandal in the painful but historically repeated infamy of clergy incapable of honoring its fundamental commitment to priestly celibacy and human decency. For over seven years, the LC not only covered up TW’s licentious and overtly un-Canonical behavior – Maciel knew about it, Corcuera knew about it, other LCs in Rome knew about it – but it honored him with a prestigious position in the Atheneum (professor of moral theology!!!) and made him a shining star on the LC global conference/TV/publishing circuit. Only when confronted this year by the imminent release of the story by the AP did the LC gently escort him home to ‘reflect on his situation’. No sanctions, no removal of faculties, no Canonical threats or ecclesiastical execution. No expression of the slightest concern for the woman and child or children he sired. Nothing but a few incomprehensible babblings by an inept Superior General in the way of a vague and pathetic ‘apology’.
The ‘scandal’ which so horrifies the LC in Fr. Pablo Pérez’ case is the telling of an inconvenient and bothersome truth. For that, he has received the equivalent of a Canonical beat-down. He has been publicly chastised and put out to pasture having done no wrong. He got under the PTB’s skin and they felt they could afford to bully and ‘make an example’ of him to discourage other honorable LC dissidents. After all, Padre Pablo is neither a staple on MSNBC nor an author of books on how to tell right from wrong. He is simply a good and decent priest who could not turn a blind eye and sincerely thought that speaking the truth might actually make a positive difference in the Legion of Christ.
The nerve of the guy.
Criticism of the Church on matters of the abuse crisis BECOMES sinful, at a minimum, when it causes a person to be suspicious of the Catholic Church, and when it causes a person to leave the Catholic Church.
This blog shows a sad state of those who are obsessed, absolutely obsessed with something …. they left but they suffer…why? Aren't you reading spiritual books and continuing your prayer life? Don't you socialize and think about other things? Can;t you forgive. A healthy person forgives and does not look for these opportunities to vent.
The Legion of Christ can refound and rename itself, and it can look to St Ignatius of Loyola as a patron and likely also St Paul. In order for the LC to get new leadership, they need to have their general assembly called, and that has not happened yet.
The Church DOES need the LC and all Catholic Institutions. We do not say Cardinal DePaolis' order should be disbanded because there are no more Italian immigrants in large numbers to serve. No one has called for the Congregation of the Holy Cross to be disbanded because of its 150 abuse cases, and due to it inviting Obama to speak at the commencement at Notre Dame.
As far as Rev. Pablo Pérez Guajardo, he needs to explain himself what happened. Bishops on dioceses can punish their priests severely for speaking truths that the bishop does not want spoken about. They are held to secrecy, etc. Now…I know what you will do…you will say "oh not like the LC do!"
The Penn State affair widely and severely punishes people who had nothing to do with the abuses. Punish those who specifically did the crimes, not innocent people. I agree with some of the punishments, but not with other aspects and I do not think it is a model….it may be a lawyer's model…but $$$$$ is the driver there. Does not mean it is right.
As far as admonishing Fr Berg as the aggressor, he is the aggressor…he wrote the article. I did not think he was balanced in writing it because he said the Church does not need the LC, and I do not agree. We DO need Catholic Institutions. It often seems like other people. like the ones on this blog, go AT them…do you all know that counseling is available?
Laura… you do NOT need to get out. You do not know who these people are. You are right, follow Christ…HE leads.
The general assembly should be between 2013 and 2015 for the order.



We need more men of courage who speak the truth about the culture of deception and fraus inherent in the Legion. The current crop of superiors are all Maciel loyalists who were complicit in his crimes. They should be held acoountable for their inaction and willfull collaboration. Instead, they still hold positions of authority in the (de)formation of young men. It's a scandal.
You are very brave, Fr. Berg. And you are NOT in the minority. We still stand with you. -10 years an LC